Found an issue with leveling kit,,,
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This guy will make all of the mistakes others have and find out for himself that the "quick fixes" don't work and end up costing you more $ in the long run. The H3 is a different animal than the Collys/Canyons.
Those who do not listen and learn from history WILL infact be doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not listen and learn from history WILL infact be doomed to repeat it.
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Yup Taint. Some people just have to learn the hard way.
Do you trust a "salesman" or do you listen to us guys that have owned and done our own wrenching on H3's for years?
I disagree Doc.
A Leveling Kit's greatest function for an H3 is to waste the buyer's money on something that's not needed.
Do you trust a "salesman" or do you listen to us guys that have owned and done our own wrenching on H3's for years?
A Leveling Kit's greatest function for an H3 is to waste the buyer's money on something that's not needed.
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Gosh!
I'm a real slow learner so I need to go back to the beginning and think this through...and then put neatly in one place....
Shucks lets see!
Byeatts stated > "I have 35 tires and a leveling kit wit extended shackles and air bags on the rear. Love how she sits and not stupid up in the air but nice, after 25,000 miles the angle this puts on the front CV axles have caused the boots to began seeping grease.I wonder if anyone makes a 2 inch drop for the front differential which will correct the axle angles ?"
Byeatts > " Rancho makes a 4 inch drop fro the front axle. i would like a 2 inch. I don't want to raise her any more ."
I humbly replied way back on the 1st page Rancho in fact advertises as 4" professional lift kit. The kit raises the entire vehicle approx. 4"
I'm still unaware of a professional kit dropping the differential and raising the vehicle 4" for under $3K . The kit in question also provides proper parts in the package to offset the amount of angle put on the CV and U-joints in the drive line. Not to mention keep proper geometry of the front end.
A 2" differential drop after raising the Torsion keys and adding shackles and air bags to the back is counter productive to say the least.
Just because I drop the angle of my drive line does not negate the fact that I've now placed stress on some other weak link or point in the front end.
I'm going to guess JMHO that the front end will quickly start to eat through CV or Axle or Upper/Lower Ball joints and diff bushings not to mention tires.
25K miles is when you stated the boots were seeping....
I guess time will tell.
Chris
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H3 right out the gate can comfortably fit 35 inch tires with a slight Torsion key adjustment.
Not bashing just sharing an observation / thought.
I'm a real slow learner so I need to go back to the beginning and think this through...and then put neatly in one place....
Shucks lets see!
Byeatts stated > "I have 35 tires and a leveling kit wit extended shackles and air bags on the rear. Love how she sits and not stupid up in the air but nice, after 25,000 miles the angle this puts on the front CV axles have caused the boots to began seeping grease.I wonder if anyone makes a 2 inch drop for the front differential which will correct the axle angles ?"
Byeatts > " Rancho makes a 4 inch drop fro the front axle. i would like a 2 inch. I don't want to raise her any more ."
I humbly replied way back on the 1st page Rancho in fact advertises as 4" professional lift kit. The kit raises the entire vehicle approx. 4"
I'm still unaware of a professional kit dropping the differential and raising the vehicle 4" for under $3K . The kit in question also provides proper parts in the package to offset the amount of angle put on the CV and U-joints in the drive line. Not to mention keep proper geometry of the front end.
A 2" differential drop after raising the Torsion keys and adding shackles and air bags to the back is counter productive to say the least.
Just because I drop the angle of my drive line does not negate the fact that I've now placed stress on some other weak link or point in the front end.
I'm going to guess JMHO that the front end will quickly start to eat through CV or Axle or Upper/Lower Ball joints and diff bushings not to mention tires.
25K miles is when you stated the boots were seeping....
I guess time will tell.
Chris
p.s.
H3 right out the gate can comfortably fit 35 inch tires with a slight Torsion key adjustment.
Not bashing just sharing an observation / thought.
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Gosh!
I'm a real slow learner so I need to go back to the beginning and think this through...and then put neatly in one place....
Shucks lets see!
Byeatts stated > "I have 35 tires and a leveling kit wit extended shackles and air bags on the rear. Love how she sits and not stupid up in the air but nice, after 25,000 miles the angle this puts on the front CV axles have caused the boots to began seeping grease.I wonder if anyone makes a 2 inch drop for the front differential which will correct the axle angles ?"
Byeatts > " Rancho makes a 4 inch drop fro the front axle. i would like a 2 inch. I don't want to raise her any more ."
I humbly replied way back on the 1st page Rancho in fact advertises as 4" professional lift kit. The kit raises the entire vehicle approx. 4"
I'm still unaware of a professional kit dropping the differential and raising the vehicle 4" for under $3K . The kit in question also provides proper parts in the package to offset the amount of angle put on the CV and U-joints in the drive line. Not to mention keep proper geometry of the front end.
A 2" differential drop after raising the Torsion keys and adding shackles and air bags to the back is counter productive to say the least.
Just because I drop the angle of my drive line does not negate the fact that I've now placed stress on some other weak link or point in the front end.
I'm going to guess JMHO that the front end will quickly start to eat through CV or Axle or Upper/Lower Ball joints and diff bushings not to mention tires.
25K miles is when you stated the boots were seeping....
I guess time will tell.
Chris
p.s.
H3 right out the gate can comfortably fit 35 inch tires with a slight Torsion key adjustment.
Not bashing just sharing an observation / thought.
I'm a real slow learner so I need to go back to the beginning and think this through...and then put neatly in one place....
Shucks lets see!
Byeatts stated > "I have 35 tires and a leveling kit wit extended shackles and air bags on the rear. Love how she sits and not stupid up in the air but nice, after 25,000 miles the angle this puts on the front CV axles have caused the boots to began seeping grease.I wonder if anyone makes a 2 inch drop for the front differential which will correct the axle angles ?"
Byeatts > " Rancho makes a 4 inch drop fro the front axle. i would like a 2 inch. I don't want to raise her any more ."
I humbly replied way back on the 1st page Rancho in fact advertises as 4" professional lift kit. The kit raises the entire vehicle approx. 4"
I'm still unaware of a professional kit dropping the differential and raising the vehicle 4" for under $3K . The kit in question also provides proper parts in the package to offset the amount of angle put on the CV and U-joints in the drive line. Not to mention keep proper geometry of the front end.
A 2" differential drop after raising the Torsion keys and adding shackles and air bags to the back is counter productive to say the least.
Just because I drop the angle of my drive line does not negate the fact that I've now placed stress on some other weak link or point in the front end.
I'm going to guess JMHO that the front end will quickly start to eat through CV or Axle or Upper/Lower Ball joints and diff bushings not to mention tires.
25K miles is when you stated the boots were seeping....
I guess time will tell.
Chris
p.s.
H3 right out the gate can comfortably fit 35 inch tires with a slight Torsion key adjustment.
Not bashing just sharing an observation / thought.
Also you talk about a leveling kit and 2 inch drop for the diff. where did you get that? I have said the blocks lower the diff. one inch only and its still tucked up high in the frame and still over the control arms.There is no change in ground clearances at all.You guys need to look at the photos on page 2 . this is really simple to see.
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Yes, it's easy to see, and also if you check on page 1,2,3 and 4 you will see a lot of people with a lot of experience saying that it is a bad idea because of failure due to the diff drop blocks.. Go with a professional all inclusive lift that is proven, or do the torsion bar crank to the correct measurements like these guys have said if you want a machine that will last. If not go with the blocks and the store bought leveling kit and eventually you will have some expensive problems.
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Yes, it's easy to see, and also if you check on page 1,2,3 and 4 you will see a lot of people with a lot of experience saying that it is a bad idea because of failure due to the diff drop blocks.. Go with a professional all inclusive lift that is proven, or do the torsion bar crank to the correct measurements like these guys have said if you want a machine that will last. If not go with the blocks and the store bought leveling kit and eventually you will have some expensive problems.
slight shackle in rear with air bags to handle heavy loads. Longer shocks
so am i to understand dropping the front diff one inch is going to create all kinds of trouble when all it does is correct the axle angle and dosnt alter any clearances.?
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It does alter clearances. Adjusting the torsion bar raises the dif. Dropping it down 1" reduces the clearance.
All we are saying is that the proven method of a t-bar adjustment to get the 23.6 max. measurement plus 35" tires provides a level slightly lifted look and results with the most clearance.
All we are saying is that the proven method of a t-bar adjustment to get the 23.6 max. measurement plus 35" tires provides a level slightly lifted look and results with the most clearance.
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It does alter clearances. Adjusting the torsion bar raises the dif. Dropping it down 1" reduces the clearance.
All we are saying is that the proven method of a t-bar adjustment to get the 23.6 max. measurement plus 35" tires provides a level slightly lifted look and results with the most clearance.
All we are saying is that the proven method of a t-bar adjustment to get the 23.6 max. measurement plus 35" tires provides a level slightly lifted look and results with the most clearance.