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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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another hint with the carbs..you want mechanical secondaries...doing away with a vacuum secondary setup removes some trouble shooting issue, and i have streeted my car with the same setup that i race with, for a decade now.

people may tell you that you HAVE to run a choke, and you HAVE to run vacuum secondaries for a street car, but i can go to my car in the dead of winter, and the old girl will fire and run...
 
Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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dont forget to get a new caneuter valve...
 
Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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See, this is where I start getting lost.

I have done radiators, cooling systems, brake systems, fuel systems, everything except engines. I know nothing about a carb except that it is what sucks the air into the engine.

I honestly never understood how a vacuum system works. I'm assuming that is what sucks the air into the engine and cylinders, but don't know exactly how the different carb valves work and so forth. I don't know what a secondary is.

My feeling has always been if it's a true muscle car, it shouldn'thaveEFI. Granted my knowledge of FI engines is much more then old carb engines, but I know enough to know that to me having a EFI engine is kinda faking it, or doing it the easy way. I hate working on troubleshooting imports because it's all electrical, and it's always the computer controlling mixtures and so forth. If you want to change something, you have to invest $500 to $1000 on cables and programs, not to mention a laptop, to tune something. I went to school for almost 3 years for electronics engineering, so troubleshooting those has always been very easy for me, but I like a challenge, and with those it's always either a sensor is bad or dirty, or a wire is cut. Where's the fun in that?

I want to be able to take a screwdriver and adjust it, not have to boot up a laptop and use a OBDII cable to make a change. I hated that stupid skip-shift crap GM put in all their Camaro's/ TAs as well. That stuff is a joke to me.

So how hard is it to swap auto for a manual tranny, other then installed the shifter and all that?

And what the hell is a caneuter valve
 
Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Patrick is right on with the jets and pissers. Do not fall into the "If small squirters are goo, big must be better".............you will create a bogging dog off the line. Quadrajets aren't the best, but if you are keeping a matching all stock numbers car straight, ya got to learn em fellas. With that said, go with the new like these guys said Mike, less headaches down the line. That Bird has potential Bro.
 
Old Aug 17, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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i agree...im not a GM guy, but i would definately rock me a 455 powered smokey and the bandit knock off...[8D]
 
Old Aug 17, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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A caneuter valve controls the air/fuel ratio during the pre-combustion oxidation. Call NAPA.. they are pretty cheap and really will make a difference if you replace them every 10-12k miles.
 
Old Aug 17, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Magnetic ones will be released Sept 1st!
 
Old Aug 17, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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your sh!tting me...!! ??? I try to keep up on that stuff and i must have been napping on that one...
 
Old Aug 17, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Isn't that part of the Carb though, the fuel/air mixture? I thought on older cars the carburator does all that.

I would LOVE to have a Smokey and the Bandit paint job. That car is what got me into cars as a kid, that and KITT of course I think that would be damn cool to show up with a car like that at the track. I think people would get a kick out of it.

So, I AM familiar with eddelbroc from my Camaro does, but how much does a good carborator cost? (notice I spell it differently each time).

I'm not interested in getting it to be a showcar because it's already past that phase, but I would like to see what I can do with the V6. That's what I like to do, make something out of nothing. I think it would be a fun challenge.

And, I know I keep saying this, but what about swapping the auto for the manual tranny? Is it hard or possible?
 
Old Aug 17, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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i was considering the manual transmission in our demon, but i did not go that route for a few reasons..

1. an A833, which was "the manual transmission" that all of the old mopars ran have become hard to get ahold of, and they are expensive, however, i have one. i do not, however, havea bell housing; that is expensive.

2. i would also have to buy the skift linkages, shifter, and bushings..and when we priced them, used (which i wouldnt want) it would have ended up costing us something like 1500 bucks to get a manual transmission, that i may not be able to drive in a few years due to my knee history.

3. A833s are NOT good transmissions for drag racing..the older manual trannies were problematic as far as power shifting, and ive heard horror stories about them kicking out of gear when trying to be power shifted, hard enough to break someones wrist.

if your goal is to drag race this car, you CANNOT go wrong with an auto trans. i know you got a nice, free car..but if you had gotten a mopar, i could have gotten you most of the parts cheap..the hardest part of making the V6 strong is going to be finding performance parts for that engine. i am not at all familiar with that engine, so i dont know how big the aftermarket is...but i know that there are few motors in the world that have a bigger aftermarket than your basic small block chevy.

if i were you, i wouldnt do an exact smokey and the bandit knockoff, but rather a derivation of it...that would be cool, and original. [8D]
 



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