I agree 100%! Male or Female, Young or Old Foggy it does not matter.

Great write up here:
HID Lights? Legal Or Pull Me Over Now?

 

Perhaps she is a deer hunter. I promise you that she can see any and every animal, bird, weasel, fox, etc while driving down the road.

I'd just like to know what Kelvin color temp that is... I can't find anything on any chart, anywhere.

I personally have 5500K, and the only time I was ever questioned by an officer was to ask me what I was running because he wanted a set.

 

Tram - posted a nice picture of projection HIDs (white color light) - Legal headlights
Haterade95 - showed a H3 with stock headlight housings and a HID kit installed (albeit greenish light) - Illegal headlights

Aside from all of us talking about the color green, the real issue is her lights causing extreme dazzle and bothering all on coming traffic. This is where the illegal parts kicks in for me.
Why would her dad add these lights no matter what the color if he has worked for the police?

 

I dunno, I'm a deer hunter and I'd have no part of a green set of headlights.

Like I said, there is a reason why white light is used to view things. If you think about how our eyes work, it would make more sense to the OP as to why green headlights are not uber-cool. Color is perceived by cones. We have one that measures the amount red light, another measures green light, and the third measures light intensity. Your occipital lobes in your brain actually process this information as color by deducing the amount of blue light from the other three factors.

When you go throwing large amounts of those colors onto items of the same color, they appear black or disappear. Go to play, watch what happens when they change the lighting compared to the color of the clothes the actors are wearing.

Shine a green light on a guy with a red shirt - the shirt almost turns black.
Shine a green light on a girl with a blue shirt - the shirt almost turns black.

Shine a white light on a guy with a red shirt - the shirt is red.
Shine a white light on a girl with a blue shirt - the shirt is blue.

Shine a green light on a person with a white shirt - the shirt turns green.

When like colors are shown on like colors, they disappear.

What is one of the most dominant colors in nature? What color are trees, leaves, grass, etc.

Now, let's imagine little Timmy is standing on the side of the road in his stylish white t-shirt and some uber-1980's like white stone washed jeans. Let's drive past him with white headlights. Timmy should be pretty visible.

Now, let's imagine little Timmy standing on the side of the road, still in his stylish white t-shirt and still sporting those horrid white stonewashed jeans.. Let's drive past him with our cool new HID green lights. What color is Timmy? What color are the surrounding objects? It's already dark out, thus why our lights are on..

See what I'm getting at, Haterade?

Running around with "cool looking" colored headlights is just not smart.

If a person ran over my child or caused a wreck that involved a family member of mine due to the obvious diminished visibility with really cool colored headlights, I'd go after them with every ounce of everything available to me and I'd win.

"Could the defendant please tell us why she ran over little Timmy as he crossed the street?"

"Well, your honor, I didn't seem him."

"Why didn't you see him?"

"I had some really cool GREEN headlights."

You run over a kid with the brightest HID's or LED's known to man and you're still going to have a tough time explaining to someone why you were negligent (even if the kid darted into the street) enough to still run over the child.

Take that scenario and throw something as cool are odd colored, visibility diminishing green headlights and I'd hate to be sitting in your chair.


The top picture is of my own personal HID retrofitted Trans Am. I made brackets to hold Hella 60mm projectors. I did it right. I didn't half A it and assault oncoming traffic with HID's in non-projector housings.

I do have HID's in non-projector housings in my fog lights, but they are aimed to hit 25' in front of the car and are not offensive at all due to the aim.

 

I did see the picture she posted and don't feel that I can accurately see what part of the light the regulation refers to. If you can clearly see what color the beams are on a white surface, from a picture taken looking at the front of the vehicle, you are a much better person than I am. I did not highlight that portion for that exact reason, there is no way to tell from the picture.

 

Based on the green HID's mounted in non-projector housings (another colossal bad idea), I made an educated guess that these HID's are more than likely pretty green and thus not in the "legal spectrum" of green..

With that said, you win. I don't care to discuss the point any further. Green headlights are ignorant. Anyone who needs to "cool up their cars" by throwing obnoxious, non-standard headlight colors into their headlights aught to be slapped around the neck, chest and head. It's ignorant and obnoxious and screams "Look at me! Look at me!!"

 

Are ya'll really going to make up excuses??? Come on, I know green is different. I have a reson. To be different from all of the preppy kids at school and their hondas and crap.

Why would a kid be out at night on the road? Sounds like they dont have pretty good parents to me. I wont drive at night anyway unless it's important! Im not one of those teens that goes and gets drunk and decide to go 80 in 55mph zone. People like that worry me. I dont evcen hang out with people like that. I only have like 2 great friends that never do this.

How would it be blinding? Same brightness as any other HIDS, blue or white. Keep in mind new cars have new HIDS as well. same brightness as my headlights.

My wouldnt have installed them if they werent street legal. He's been doing this stuff for 20yrs. And so far, every cop I've come by, (about 20 in the past 10 days) have no pulled me over.

So I dont get what all the fuss is about. Im just showing my new installment on my hummer :/ I'm going to also install a sound system too this summer. I guess somebody is going to complain about their ears hurt????? The bass is all air pressure. The highs is what hurts. I dont even like highs so I'm toning them down.

Grow up people. Quit hatin' go suck on the tail pipe of your nissan.

there, I said what I wanted to say, I'm leaving this forum. See ya!!!!

 

**** happens

Good

It's not just the brightness, it's where it is in the spectrum and how it is projected.

Don't assume that...

Was it at night?

 

It's neat that you ask if we're going to make excuses in your post before your own long list of excuses..

You're school must be different from the school I went to. The preppy kids were the ones driving the high dollar Hummers, Lexus, etc not the "Honda's and crap."

When you've passed these 20 cops in the last 10 days, was this at night? Why were you driving? Must have been important.

Here's a question for you - if you don't drive at night, why do you need pretty green lights to impress all the "preps" at your school, they'll never see them, right?

No, you're one of those kids who needs to be different and thinks "HID's are cool" and is perfectly willing to sacrifice your own safety and the safety of those around you to have a pair of "cool headlights."

Ok, you asked, so here we go..

A halogen projector with a HID Kit bulb is a mis-match. HID bulbs are uniquely made and different from filament Halogen bulbs . HID bulbs are to be accompanied by specially adapted HID projector bowls to reflect light in a superior fashion compared to Halogen in general .

To the untrained eye the WOW factor of a kit is the same for everyone at first, including me. I'm glad I didn't buy into a kit like I thought I should at first . Something inside kept me hesitating too with all I was reading here , despite the fact I hated to have to open up my headlight housings if I chose to retrofit. I did retrofit one of my vehicles, properly, with projectors.

I know of some that went ahead and bought them kits and no later than a few months ; traded them in for True HID projectors . At first it's all ''eye-candy'' but then you realize that bunch of intense hot-spots of mis-directed light in the foreground is too much ; when you can't see past it 'cause your pupils are tightened (like a flashlight in your eyes) ! Very unsafe, especially to those around you. In front of you, coming at you, tec. With a true HID projector with its super razor sharp cut-off and evenly smooth beam spread .... you end up seeing the night & day difference .

Let's look at some pics..

HID's in non-projector housings:





HID's in projector housings:





Do you see how in the pictures of the projector housed pictures the OBVIOUS cut-off of light? This is to prevent your super bright headlights from BLINDING the 2,500lbs 55mph vehicle coming at you.

Another shot.



Because your installation is wrong. It's not safe. While it looks "cool" its not. You are blinding all sorts of people with those lights..

I'm half deaf from the systems I had in my cars growing up. Do what you want, they're your ears.

If you wanted to shine bright green lights into your own eyes, I wouldn't care either, but you're not. You're shining them into others eyes.


Dissing on Nissan's eh? Sounds very preppy. Maybe you meant "I just want to show off to my other preppy friends.."

 

I can promise her one thing.... if I ever get blinded head on by her or anyone else with those head lights... you can bet you are going to get 4.3million candle power worth of lightforce coming back at you.... and I'm not 2500lbs going 55.... I'm 9000lbs....

To bounce on what Tram has stated in another scenerio... ever wonder why it cost $96 for PIAA replacement bulbs, and you can get the "same thing" on eBay for $10, shipped???