Lots of discourse on the cause of current oil pricing. Some truth in a lot of it. Economists have been wrong as often as weathermen.

 

Damn this is totally dissapointing. I really hoped to own a H3 one day . I actually like SUVs & Trucks in general so its bad on all levels.

Someone said this on another forum although not specifically aimed at the Hummer -

 

CAFE was a speedbump, it took the car manufacturers about 20 years to bring performance back after fuel economy and emission standards forced us into cars we didn't want to buy.

Why do you think the SUV and truck market exploded? It was a resultof the backlash against Mustang II's, Chevy Celebrity's, and a entire fleet of similar underpowered, small cars that most of us couldn't live with, so we bought the only large V8s still out there, first we bought pickups and then we bought SUVs. A great example of the law of unintended consequences (just like ethanol). The government created the SUV market by regulating passenger car fuel economy!

I wonder what the next round will be? Will we install coal liquifaction hardware in our garages to make fuel for our rides?

 

Yep, we got a troll.

This makes your post arrogant, you bitch about our SUV's yet you don't even realize the entire lineup.

You are wrong here. GM's new diesel is expected to be the most efficient and the least EVN producing machine.

If you don't think a 8,500lbs truck that can get 20-24mpg, pull 10,000lbs, and haul 7 people and gear is efficient, then I don't know what to tell you.

It's great to have a little Honda that get 60mpg, but with no tow value and enough room for tiny smurfs... I'd hardly call that efficient. Great if you are a heterosexual and live alone... bad if you have a family and a boat for example.

No mixing is needed, you come to a Hummer forum, bash the fuel efficiencies, what do you expect? Us to assume you are not talking about hummer but talking about general energy production?

I don't need to look up the term... a little pretentious are we?

So what are the things you consider? Do you have your little own home made list on what you consider is efficient or not? Do we need to work with your standards to be approved?

Yep, we got a leaflicking troll.

No one seems to think about the energy that goes into the production of battery systems nor do they think about what happens with that acid eventually (it can not be dumped). I believe there are better alternatives than hybrid.

Hybrids are a concept of offloading one energy source to another energy source, so it looks less of each and appears more efficient. So you get a great MPG, what about that battery acid and extra motor that you have to keep upkept. You would be dumping hundreds of pounds in batteries in your ride, increasing the road wear and increasing the tire wear... you also create a hazardous issue when it comes to accidents (spils)and fire fighters (electrocution).

With a diesel, i can clock 600,000 miles on the engine and it will still be running strong. 300k isn't uncommon for a diesel... do you really think you can maintain one battery bank for that many miles? Do you think your car would maintain that many miles with the motor or without replacing anything?

I prefer to look at the overall energy consumption rather than close binocular view. I also have pulling needs (Snowmobiles, Boat, Jetskis, Bikes, potentially a camper inthe future)... I also like trails and off road areas where one can enjoy nature. A hybrid can't deliver on that.

When Hummer comes out with something such as that and I have the option to switch, I would, but other than that, you can stop your parading of how we are so bad on energy.

This is false. We are still one of the lowest gas priced nations of the advanced nation category. Only oil rich nations still exceed our gas prices, we have some of the lowest prices in the world.

Cute. See you in the morgue when your hybrid is trapped under an 18 wheeler... or just a regular SUV.


PS. Are you using CFL light bulbs in your home? How about this computer you are typing on, is it 80+ certified? What about your fridge and appliances? are they energy star? Do you have R40 insulation double walls? What about your home temperature... do you keep it average or cool? I can tell you that I have all of these, so before you go on your anti-hummer leaf licker environmentalist triad, remember that some of us have exceptional energy conservation at home which makes up for more than our share of inefficiency... keep that in mind next time you switch lights on in your home.

 

Nice ockie, I like!!!

 

There will ALWAYS ALWAYS be a demand for the power house 4x4's, SUV's and trucks both in gas and diesel. The RV's that need pulling (Boats, Campers, Toys haulers, 5th wheels and bumper pulls). The power house SUV's and Trucks will always be around for this reason alone, not to mention there is those of us that just like the bigger things to drive.

There is still money to be made making and selling these big rigs, so they will never die out all the way. Cutting back some maybe, but there is just to many sportsman's and campers, out here that need the power to pull our toys.

 

I will park my hummer and stare at it before I drive a prius

 

Well on the other hand my fear of not being able to own a Hummer might not be all that big, some people will probably sell H3s as used vehicles aswell so doesent mean they will just disappear into thin air. BTW I am only 17 but I just dream of owning one one day

I remember reading some treehugger's comments talking about how the "the POS F-150" was wasteful and useless. Tell me how a pickup doesent have its functions, are people stupid? You can tow things and let me see you get that plywood or that shiny stainless steel grille home in a Prius.

 

Intelligent people have never scared me, it's the stupid ones that I am afraid of. And treehuggers, they frighten me to death.

 

It's interesting to see otherwise intelligent people turn into a-holes because of a well recognized brand name. I've had too many people approach me in the last two days with the same basic remark "haha, Hummer is going out of business, what do you think of your truck now" or some equally inane remark. I've owned lots of different vehicles over the years, but this is by far the most anger-inducing one I've ever had. Envy? Jealousy? Ignorance?

I think I'll buy my wife an H3! This is too funny.