Why thank you ... :-) Agreed, any heated debate, especially this topic tends to bring out emotions regardless of where you go and who you discuss it with. I don't see eye to eye with a whole lot of people in general and yes, there are definitely some consequences to face when you voice something that goes against the "popular opinion" .. Takes some cajones to do that and if nothing else I'll have to give Choco that much ... and backlash?? Absolutely, without them it wouldn't be a two way street .. it would be preaching (not intended as a religous bash here ya'll, just using the word) more than anything else .. and quite frankly ... considering how media is these days it's sometimes VERY difficult to really get the "truth".

A classic example here is reading a news story documented in two different countries. In my case I still read the news back in Sweden on a daily basis, as well as CNN and our local stuff here in Cinti. I have seen SOO MANY stories covered where the "facts" contradict based on where it was written. You don't have to go outside the country either, read enough of them here in the states and yes, there are differencies there too ... It's an "objective" view of the person who wrote it but you are ultimately dealing with one persons (the journalist) perception and understanding of the event, not truly what happened .. you would have had to have been there yourself to get the "truth" ... downside of perception, it differs from person to person. There is a couple of snippets out of a book by Jean Baudrillard (one of my fav authors, writes philosophy and quite a few publications in the Social studies field as well) questioning the authenticity of documented history from this very perspective ... which again, it all bottoms down to things being both, not either or .... perception is a b*tch, ain't it LOL!

 

Unfortunately here in the US anyway, the media most often tends to twist or distort the truth (besides their own perception), and sensationalize -because it makes for good copy since that's what people seem to want to hear/read. It's just like rubbernecking at a gory scene..we ewwww and shudder over it and turn away, but yet we still have the overwhelming urge to look yet again! (Not everyone of course - this is just a generalization!) Our constitution was written to give all the right to express their opinions (and that is going to pot now too) and that we should..however I still defend MY OPINION that sometimes a situation might warrant reserving one's opinionsverbally- if it is at the expense of another. This is the kinder, gentler side ofME. (Don't get me wrong and mistake my gentle side as a sign of weakness for I am quite capable of ripping someone a new one! I simply choose my battles carefully so as to reserve my energy for those who really deserve it! LOL) "And that's all I have to say about tha-at!"

 

Yep, anything to make money .. that's basically what it bottoms down to these days ... how anyone can be objective with that intent is beyond me LOL! Gawd only knows what the "history" books will look like 2-300 years from now when they discribe the time we live in currently LOL! Would be interesting to read, that's for sure!

 

Well put to echo Sarah and what Sarah says too..I couldn't get word in edgewise between you two

But ya'll said what I would have said very well..

 

Assuming it has enough force and mass, yes. But I'd say it would take an awful lot of sausage skin

 

A splash in the bath tub is nothing more thana Tsunami on asmaller scale...It's all a matter of relevance..

 

[sm=drooldude.gif]heh! Sorry couldn't help myself to that last comment...figured I might as well be a tad salacious in thought and throw in the sex innuendo here too since we have covered the religion and politics thing so extensively as of late...and Denny, sorry you couldn't get a word in there sugar...that's what happens when you get in between a pair of loudmouth opinionated fingers!

 

Actually, the defining aspect of a tsunami is it's incredibly long wave length and in this particular example you would be incorrect. The end result of a splash is a larger number of short wave length ripples which impacts things which much lesser force and duration. A tsunami on the other hand more or less raises the sea level for an extended period of time, the wave length .. thus making them very dangerous ... Sorry Den, I had to hehehehehehee

 

Picky, picky...Bastard!


Well then a sausage and a fuselage of an aircraft is a little out there too, Mr hair splitter...

 

What can I say Den, it was there, I had to jab ya LOL! I even apologized for it hehehehee ...

Well, I dunno who actually stated the fuselage as being sausage skin initially ... Butfrom theaspect of force and mass, that statement is infact correct :P If you have enough sausage skin and it's mass is distributed over a small enough area and you launch it with enough force, yes, it is possible :-) This of course assumes you have a relative small sausage skin based object with a high enough density but theoretically it is in fact possible :P No different than a bullet, relative high density, high force, plus it's mass .. presto .... :P Then again .. you could probably prove you could hang an elephant off a cliff by a Daisy with the right theoretical physics