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GET OUT NOW all together, and never look back.
27.78%
Get out and then go after Iran..Air strikes only!
5.56%
Stay, take total control, and use their oil to pay for the war
33.33%
Stay and slowly turn it over to the Iraqis
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Do we get out of Iraq

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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Let it go Choco. You need a hobby. Why don't you take the Hummer for a drive? [sm=smiley20.gif]

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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Choco Please read this...

Pentagon911
"At that speed, the plane itself is like a sausage skin," Sozen said. "It doesn't have much strength and virtually crumbles on impact."

Then Read actual eyewitness accounts

Pentagon 911 ..
Bell, who had been less than 100 feet from the initial impact of the plane, was nearly struck by one of the plane´s wings as it sped by him.
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III. Conclusion

Despite the destructive fire that raged inside the impact area on 9/11, pieces of debris were visible on 9/13 and 9/14, and were photographed by recovery workers. These photos clearly show pieces of landing gears, a large turbofan engine, and fuselage. The evidence inside the building is consistent with the evidence of plane wreckage outside -- indicating that a commercial airliner flew into the Pentagon on September 11th.
 
Old Apr 23, 2007 | 05:43 AM
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ORIGINAL: Dennis

Choco Please read this...

Pentagon911
"At that speed, the plane itself is like a sausage skin," Sozen said. "It doesn't have much strength and virtually crumbles on impact."
So a sausage skin can break through 9 feet of reinforced steel concrete?
 
Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Choc, you been hanging out with Rosie again? [:'(]
 
Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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I'm beginning to wonder which is more dense..Choco or the concrete..

What part about this don't you understand??????

Conclusion

Despite the destructive fire that raged inside the impact area on 9/11, pieces of debris were visible on 9/13 and 9/14, and were photographed by recovery workers. These photos clearly show pieces of landing gears, a large turbofan engine, and fuselage. The evidence inside the building is consistent with the evidence of plane wreckage outside -- indicating that a commercial airliner flew into the Pentagon on September 11th.
 
Old Apr 23, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Touchy debate .. and to think I've sat out as long as I have .... Choco ... while you have some good points, they are unfortunately based on speculation rather than facts. When the towers came down they did so with a snowball effect. One floor collapsed on top of the floor below it, generating an increasing force and mass as it progressed. If you look at the construction of the buildings themselves and factor in that burning jet fuel stripped the fire proofing off the support beams .. it's EASY to understand that the heat the burning fuel generatedeventuallyweakened the support beamsthus causing them to fail. Once one floor collapsed there is nothing you can do to stop the progression and ultimately interaction of gravity ...

And I don't recall who said it but to start making sensational claims like you did .. it's a pretty good slap in the face to everyone who died. I don't think there is one American that doesn't feel a connection with the folks who died there and what you're saying get's personal for all of us. I dunno about the rest of ya's but I'll never forget watching people leap from the towers and plummet to their deaths ...

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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Now as far as the war in Iraq goes ... I think it's a shame we have to send our soldiers there to die ... it's an unfortunate drawback in being the last surviving super power. I had a friend come back from there and he was a very different person afterwards .... war is hell my friends .. and as much as I dispise them from a conceptual aspect they are an unfortunate necessity just as guns are... I just hope for a quick resolution and no more blood shed ... to many people have lost their kids, parent, brother, or sister over there ... I just hope the soldiers over there understands the appreciation MOST of us have for what they do ... just wish they wouldn't have to do it!
 
Old Apr 23, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Well put my dear! That big mouthed obnoxious pig Rosie O'Donnell is one who has been spewing this conspiracy BS as of late (amongst others)...Everyone is entitled to their opinions and theories (and this IS a forum to do so BUT...)...this theory is ABSURD and to voice opinions such as this here with veterans on the forum as well as others who may have lost loved ones as well....not real tactful or sensitive.
 
Old Apr 23, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Thank you... but you know my points of viewswhen it comes tothe freedomto express yourself.. whilst they may be obsurd to you and me, they make perfect sense to others. And whilst this may be offensive to some .. this is one of the corner stones that built this country, the freedom of speech. One should not be prosicuted for their beliefs, religious or others ... and whether it's tactful or sensitive ... that's a matter of perception ... and they are all correct and they are all wrong ... Just because *I* don't agree doesn't mean the "opposition" is absurd .. it's a different view point and should be treated with the same level of respect as you would want yourself when voicing yours ... And as much as I disagree with Choco in this particular instance .. at least he questions things, I respect that! However misguided I may feel it is .. yanno what I mean?

 
Old Apr 23, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Again, well put sugar! I was voicing my opinion with regard to this subject as well, and while doing so Iwas NOT meaning to bash Choco at all- that's something I just don't do here or anywhere else for that matter (unless of course the poster is a "trollish twit" then let the games begin! ) With that being said, it's a heated topic and when one voices an opinion on any heated topic, they must be prepared for the backlash so to speak.
 



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