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Do we get out of Iraq
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RE: Do we get out of Iraq
In my opinion...
If you look at all the evidence leading up to and during 9/11.
It leads me to believe that this whole war had to do with oil. At the end of the day it's all about business.
1-2 months before there was 8,000 people that bet American Airlines was going to drop/fail, this was 16x the normal amount in 1 year.
The guy leasing, resigned a new lease for 3.2bill, and got insurance for 3.5bill specifically covering against terroism.
1 eye witnessed described the planes as a blue circle symbol, not an american airline description. If you slow-motion the clip just before it hits the tower there is a bright fire, it was observed from 3 different angles.
The 2nd Tower stood up strong for quite sometime. The firefighters said they couldnt exstinguish the fire, and if they should let it go? He responded with "There has been to much loss, let it go?" soon after it falls down like a demolition building.
Firefighter described it like each floor going boom boom boom, much like a building getting blown up with detonaters.
The pentagon was supposidly hit by a plane, but there was no evidence of a plane being there. Also the hole made in the section of the pentagon was much smaller than the nose of a 577, also how could a plane like this make it through 18 feet of concrete. There was only 1 Camera watching this section of the pentagon, how does that happen? A gas station fairly close by had video footage of this event, and was quicky confiscated by government officials. How can a 575 Hit the pentagon and leave no pieces, seats, wing, anything.
There is a lot more information about this from:
9/11: Conspiracy
9/11: Recut Edition or something like that.
These 2 videos have showed me more evidence than any other source.
I feel bush took advantage of american Patriotism by stating:
"If your not with us, you're with the terriosts."
Thats messed up.
Recut Edition of 9/11 is really good and 9/11 conspiracy is alright. Just try to look at it with an open mind.
If you look at all the evidence leading up to and during 9/11.
It leads me to believe that this whole war had to do with oil. At the end of the day it's all about business.
1-2 months before there was 8,000 people that bet American Airlines was going to drop/fail, this was 16x the normal amount in 1 year.
The guy leasing, resigned a new lease for 3.2bill, and got insurance for 3.5bill specifically covering against terroism.
1 eye witnessed described the planes as a blue circle symbol, not an american airline description. If you slow-motion the clip just before it hits the tower there is a bright fire, it was observed from 3 different angles.
The 2nd Tower stood up strong for quite sometime. The firefighters said they couldnt exstinguish the fire, and if they should let it go? He responded with "There has been to much loss, let it go?" soon after it falls down like a demolition building.
Firefighter described it like each floor going boom boom boom, much like a building getting blown up with detonaters.
The pentagon was supposidly hit by a plane, but there was no evidence of a plane being there. Also the hole made in the section of the pentagon was much smaller than the nose of a 577, also how could a plane like this make it through 18 feet of concrete. There was only 1 Camera watching this section of the pentagon, how does that happen? A gas station fairly close by had video footage of this event, and was quicky confiscated by government officials. How can a 575 Hit the pentagon and leave no pieces, seats, wing, anything.
There is a lot more information about this from:
9/11: Conspiracy
9/11: Recut Edition or something like that.
These 2 videos have showed me more evidence than any other source.
I feel bush took advantage of american Patriotism by stating:
"If your not with us, you're with the terriosts."
Thats messed up.
Recut Edition of 9/11 is really good and 9/11 conspiracy is alright. Just try to look at it with an open mind.
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RE: Do we get out of Iraq
ORIGINAL: Choco
In my opinion...
If you look at all the evidence leading up to and during 9/11.
It leads me to believe that this whole war had to do with oil. At the end of the day it's all about business.
1-2 months before there was 8,000 people that bet American Airlines was going to drop/fail, this was 16x the normal amount in 1 year.
The guy leasing, resigned a new lease for 3.2bill, and got insurance for 3.5bill specifically covering against terroism.
1 eye witnessed described the planes as a blue circle symbol, not an american airline description. If you slow-motion the clip just before it hits the tower there is a bright fire, it was observed from 3 different angles.
The 2nd Tower stood up strong for quite sometime. The firefighters said they couldnt exstinguish the fire, and if they should let it go? He responded with "There has been to much loss, let it go?" soon after it falls down like a demolition building.
Firefighter described it like each floor going boom boom boom, much like a building getting blown up with detonaters.
The pentagon was supposidly hit by a plane, but there was no evidence of a plane being there. Also the hole made in the section of the pentagon was much smaller than the nose of a 577, also how could a plane like this make it through 18 feet of concrete. There was only 1 Camera watching this section of the pentagon, how does that happen? A gas station fairly close by had video footage of this event, and was quicky confiscated by government officials. How can a 575 Hit the pentagon and leave no pieces, seats, wing, anything.
There is a lot more information about this from:
9/11: Conspiracy
9/11: Recut Edition or something like that.
These 2 videos have showed me more evidence than any other source.
I feel bush took advantage of american Patriotism by stating:
"If your not with us, you're with the terriosts."
Thats messed up.
Recut Edition of 9/11 is really good and 9/11 conspiracy is alright. Just try to look at it with an open mind.
In my opinion...
If you look at all the evidence leading up to and during 9/11.
It leads me to believe that this whole war had to do with oil. At the end of the day it's all about business.
1-2 months before there was 8,000 people that bet American Airlines was going to drop/fail, this was 16x the normal amount in 1 year.
The guy leasing, resigned a new lease for 3.2bill, and got insurance for 3.5bill specifically covering against terroism.
1 eye witnessed described the planes as a blue circle symbol, not an american airline description. If you slow-motion the clip just before it hits the tower there is a bright fire, it was observed from 3 different angles.
The 2nd Tower stood up strong for quite sometime. The firefighters said they couldnt exstinguish the fire, and if they should let it go? He responded with "There has been to much loss, let it go?" soon after it falls down like a demolition building.
Firefighter described it like each floor going boom boom boom, much like a building getting blown up with detonaters.
The pentagon was supposidly hit by a plane, but there was no evidence of a plane being there. Also the hole made in the section of the pentagon was much smaller than the nose of a 577, also how could a plane like this make it through 18 feet of concrete. There was only 1 Camera watching this section of the pentagon, how does that happen? A gas station fairly close by had video footage of this event, and was quicky confiscated by government officials. How can a 575 Hit the pentagon and leave no pieces, seats, wing, anything.
There is a lot more information about this from:
9/11: Conspiracy
9/11: Recut Edition or something like that.
These 2 videos have showed me more evidence than any other source.
I feel bush took advantage of american Patriotism by stating:
"If your not with us, you're with the terriosts."
Thats messed up.
Recut Edition of 9/11 is really good and 9/11 conspiracy is alright. Just try to look at it with an open mind.
But if you want to say that 9/11 was a conspiracy I really believe that is RIDICULOUS!!
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RE: Do we get out of Iraq
Like i said its my opinion...
To say it's ridiculous.. I say its politics... You make a movie with evidence to prove me wrong, ill look at it froma nother point of view.
By evidence I don't mean like, look at how many peoples lives are ruined, because that doesn't prove anything in the world today.
Explain to me how after the pentagon was hit they could have cleaned up that large of a plane in an hour, and it only did that smaller hole of damage.
I do feel the soldiers are over there to help there country, but for all the wrong reasons.
To say it's ridiculous.. I say its politics... You make a movie with evidence to prove me wrong, ill look at it froma nother point of view.
By evidence I don't mean like, look at how many peoples lives are ruined, because that doesn't prove anything in the world today.
Explain to me how after the pentagon was hit they could have cleaned up that large of a plane in an hour, and it only did that smaller hole of damage.
I do feel the soldiers are over there to help there country, but for all the wrong reasons.
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RE: Do we get out of Iraq
ORIGINAL: Choco
Like i said its my opinion...
To say it's ridiculous.. I say its politics... You make a movie with evidence to prove me wrong, ill look at it froma nother point of view.
By evidence I don't mean like, look at how many peoples lives are ruined, because that doesn't prove anything in the world today.
Explain to me how after the pentagon was hit they could have cleaned up that large of a plane in an hour, and it only did that smaller hole of damage.
I do feel the soldiers are over there to help there country, but for all the wrong reasons.
Like i said its my opinion...
To say it's ridiculous.. I say its politics... You make a movie with evidence to prove me wrong, ill look at it froma nother point of view.
By evidence I don't mean like, look at how many peoples lives are ruined, because that doesn't prove anything in the world today.
Explain to me how after the pentagon was hit they could have cleaned up that large of a plane in an hour, and it only did that smaller hole of damage.
I do feel the soldiers are over there to help there country, but for all the wrong reasons.
And thing about the number of people you have to get involved...
No, that idea is science fiction.
I agree to say that Saddam was probably not involved at all in 9/11 and that the war was based on lies or mispresentation of the facts.
The Bush administration has probably instrumentalized the american people.
But that was not the subject, since both chambers have approved the war the war was then legal.
That's democracy, we can disagree with our country leaders but majority rules.
My country leadership and the american administration have had different views on the subject, France being not at war I feel that I can speak freely on the subject.
Anyhow, no one can contemplate all the dead americans boys and iraqui families and stay without opinion.
Another collateral damage of this war is that the entire world has develloped a serious racist feeling against the muslims.They have differents views, a different culture allright but what percentage of them are 'bad guys' out of a billion or so muslims in the world.
I also deeply regret that BUSH and CHIRAC disagreements has led to bad feelings in between the American people and the French people.
All in all, in think that the Bush administration has not made the world 'safer' but worse using all the worst side of the human being to reach their goals.
and understand me well, I am not speaking about politics here I am speaking about ethics.
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RE: Do we get out of Iraq
ORIGINAL: JM
I don't believe for a second that any politician leader in the 'free world' countries can even start to imagine 'making up' a monstruosity like 9/11 .
And thing about the number of people you have to get involved...
ORIGINAL: Choco
Like i said its my opinion...
To say it's ridiculous.. I say its politics... You make a movie with evidence to prove me wrong, ill look at it froma nother point of view.
By evidence I don't mean like, look at how many peoples lives are ruined, because that doesn't prove anything in the world today.
Explain to me how after the pentagon was hit they could have cleaned up that large of a plane in an hour, and it only did that smaller hole of damage.
I do feel the soldiers are over there to help there country, but for all the wrong reasons.
Like i said its my opinion...
To say it's ridiculous.. I say its politics... You make a movie with evidence to prove me wrong, ill look at it froma nother point of view.
By evidence I don't mean like, look at how many peoples lives are ruined, because that doesn't prove anything in the world today.
Explain to me how after the pentagon was hit they could have cleaned up that large of a plane in an hour, and it only did that smaller hole of damage.
I do feel the soldiers are over there to help there country, but for all the wrong reasons.
And thing about the number of people you have to get involved...
These are all a bunch of coincidences?
Pentagon was attacked by what they say was 757. Realistically not by a 757, the plane debri was cleaned up before the fire was put out. The most
Resigning his lease for the Twin Towers not much before 9/11 and insurance specifically covering terroism attacks?
Did you see how the 2nd tower came down, it was like it had been filled with dynamite on each floor. Coming down like a demolition.
Im a Canadian Citizen soI look at it as a spectators view, much like you do.
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RE: Do we get out of Iraq
ORIGINAL: Choco
In my opinion...
If you look at all the evidence leading up to and during 9/11.
It leads me to believe that this whole war had to do with oil. At the end of the day it's all about business.
1-2 months before there was 8,000 people that bet American Airlines was going to drop/fail, this was 16x the normal amount in 1 year.
The guy leasing, resigned a new lease for 3.2bill, and got insurance for 3.5bill specifically covering against terroism.
1 eye witnessed described the planes as a blue circle symbol, not an american airline description. If you slow-motion the clip just before it hits the tower there is a bright fire, it was observed from 3 different angles.
The 2nd Tower stood up strong for quite sometime. The firefighters said they couldnt exstinguish the fire, and if they should let it go? He responded with "There has been to much loss, let it go?" soon after it falls down like a demolition building.
Firefighter described it like each floor going boom boom boom, much like a building getting blown up with detonaters.
The pentagon was supposidly hit by a plane, but there was no evidence of a plane being there. Also the hole made in the section of the pentagon was much smaller than the nose of a 577, also how could a plane like this make it through 18 feet of concrete. There was only 1 Camera watching this section of the pentagon, how does that happen? A gas station fairly close by had video footage of this event, and was quicky confiscated by government officials. How can a 575 Hit the pentagon and leave no pieces, seats, wing, anything.
There is a lot more information about this from:
9/11: Conspiracy
9/11: Recut Edition or something like that.
These 2 videos have showed me more evidence than any other source.
I feel bush took advantage of american Patriotism by stating:
"If your not with us, you're with the terriosts."
Thats messed up.
Recut Edition of 9/11 is really good and 9/11 conspiracy is alright. Just try to look at it with an open mind.
In my opinion...
If you look at all the evidence leading up to and during 9/11.
It leads me to believe that this whole war had to do with oil. At the end of the day it's all about business.
1-2 months before there was 8,000 people that bet American Airlines was going to drop/fail, this was 16x the normal amount in 1 year.
The guy leasing, resigned a new lease for 3.2bill, and got insurance for 3.5bill specifically covering against terroism.
1 eye witnessed described the planes as a blue circle symbol, not an american airline description. If you slow-motion the clip just before it hits the tower there is a bright fire, it was observed from 3 different angles.
The 2nd Tower stood up strong for quite sometime. The firefighters said they couldnt exstinguish the fire, and if they should let it go? He responded with "There has been to much loss, let it go?" soon after it falls down like a demolition building.
Firefighter described it like each floor going boom boom boom, much like a building getting blown up with detonaters.
The pentagon was supposidly hit by a plane, but there was no evidence of a plane being there. Also the hole made in the section of the pentagon was much smaller than the nose of a 577, also how could a plane like this make it through 18 feet of concrete. There was only 1 Camera watching this section of the pentagon, how does that happen? A gas station fairly close by had video footage of this event, and was quicky confiscated by government officials. How can a 575 Hit the pentagon and leave no pieces, seats, wing, anything.
There is a lot more information about this from:
9/11: Conspiracy
9/11: Recut Edition or something like that.
These 2 videos have showed me more evidence than any other source.
I feel bush took advantage of american Patriotism by stating:
"If your not with us, you're with the terriosts."
Thats messed up.
Recut Edition of 9/11 is really good and 9/11 conspiracy is alright. Just try to look at it with an open mind.
Sorry for the rant.
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