Hey guys, one thing I noticed is if you now look at my H3 from the front it seems as if the tires turn up to an angle and it's really noticible - is this something I should be concerned about and can this be fixed if I take it into the dealership?



From the bottom of the tire the front are aligned with the rear tires but the top of the tire turns in about an inch.

 

Well, if you didnt do some crazy off-roading and break something it is probably a simple case of having your wheels realigned.

Your wheels can be unaligned in several ways, the two front wheels can be not in a straight line with each other, the two side wheels can be not in a straight line with each other and the wheels can be at a wrong angle in relation to the road.

The angle of the tire and wheel in relation the road is called camber. If the top of your tire leans in you have negative camber. The dealer can easily adjust camber by adding shims on the upper control arms.

 

This is a typical consequence of stiffening your torsion bars...The Dealer as HUMerific said, will be able to straighten things out..it's no big problem, only a result of the extra spring you now added...but geter done soon, becuase the tires if you care will wear badly.

 

Out of curiosity, how many turns did you put into your torsion bars?

 

To get it as even as I could I had to turn it 4 1/2 times!! It's still 1/2 inch lower than the rear, but looks even enough, at least that 'rear in the air' look is gone...

Yep alignment worked perfectly, it looks normal now, the ride is a little bumpy but I'm used to it, my Jeep used to bounce all over the road, so this is nothing.



Thanks guys!

 

I would be concerned about how much stress you are putting on the torsion bars with that much preload during compression, unless you limit up travel by a similar amount. Too much stress could cause a bar to break after a while.

 

Hey Inked. 4-1/2 turns might be pushin it alittle. Most peeps including me are doin 2 to 3 turns.. 2-1/2 for me. All the homework I did before I adjusted mine brought me to 2-1/2 turns. Its still not quite level but that wasnt what I was looking for. Just wanted a extra inch for the 35's. One thing you might get is extra stress and premature wear on some front end parts,, but again Im still waitin on a post about wear and tear on T-Bar lifts. So far havent seen anything and some peeps are doin more than you. By the way your 3 looks good..

 

Okay guys, because I really don't want anything to happen I called a good friend of mine who did my alignment and has been doing this kind of stuff for a living for the past 20 years of his life and he said he has never heard of torsion bars breaking because of making adjustments to it - the negative of making tbar adjustments was only the bumpy ride. I even asked him about wear and tear and he said he hasn't heard nothing so far. He checked out my adjustments when he did my alignment and said it should be fine.

However I think I may just lower it an inch. It does look super cool with the front being almost leveled with the rear and even though I trust my friend I really would rather spend my extra $$$ on adding parts to my H3 rather than having to get parts because of s#it breaking.

Thanks guys for all the info.

If any of you out there who has cranked your tbars to add some lift and have experienced problems please POST IT!!!
The best advice is from people who actually had it happen to them...Thanks in advanced!!

 

Your friend is right inked. T-bars are basicly bullet proof. You wont have any problems with them, but possibly some front end parts wearin out alittle faster. Im not tryin to change your mind or be a worry wort about over doin the t_bars. Your adjustment isnt that bad. 6 or more turns is askin for early wear. I called my service guy before I did mine, and asked him why GM had the front end so low and if it would hurt anything down the road adjusting it up alittle. He didnt have a answer to the stinkbug look and saw no problems raising it some,, but not to go overboard (to many turns). I did mine 6 months ago and everthing looks good under the front. Its nice having a full size garage with a lift to play with. We late model stock car race here in the midwest and I have access to alot of goodies so I put my 3 up about once a month to check things out. Hope this helps,,, See ya

 

I have never seen any negative effects from a t-bar lift. My brother had a Nissan Frontier Crew cab, he had a 4" susp. lift and 33" Swampers, well after we mounted the tires we found that the fronts did not fit. I cranked the t-bars about 10 times each...I had no more room to crank. This leveled the front and cleared the 33's. He drove the truck this way for another 65,000 miles and beat the hell out of it and NEVER had one part in the front end fail. I'm not sayin it can't happen but I don't think turning the t-bars 5-6-7 times is gonna put someone at risk to have a serious breakage issue.