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Door glass scratches?

Old Feb 16, 2019 | 09:18 AM
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Hey folks, I have a question. I’m currently trying to clean up a new to me H2 (my 3rd one)... my last one was broken into and I decided to replace over repair. My question is about the door glass... my current one as well as my last one have faint vertical scratches on the outside surface of the glass. I am going to inspect the window felt but I don’t thing it’s bad. Is it just a common thing with years of usage? Do you folks also have scratches? If I use a flashlight on the glass I can see them. I am considering a replacement of the door glass... or I may just deal with it a while longer since it’s not al that bad. I’ll post a few pics. I noticed it yesterday while removing the window tint from the front doors.






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Old Feb 16, 2019 | 10:02 AM
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I'd say this is more common on vehicles that have been properly off road and slinging mug.... but really any vehicle will tend to have some, especially if its older. The reason as you mentioned it obvious. The outer window felts can and will get fine particles embedded into them over time. Moreso if mud has been slung all over the sides of the vehicle at times. As I get older and my vision inevitably gets worse it becomes more and more noticeable to me as well with the glare that it adds. Especially on the windshield since that is where I'm looking out most.

2 fixes. Replace the glass of course is one. The other is to polish the scratches out. Very doable if they are not deep. If you have some so deep that your fingernail catches than you are not likely going to be able to polish them out. You could then either have a glass repair place fill them or replace the glass.

Polishing does work well though. You want a cerium oxide based polish. Powdered cerium oxide and mixing it yourself in combination with a decent sized pad on a drill or rotary polisher work the best. Another that also works well for a pre-mixed solution is ceramic/glass cooktop polish...

The are plenty of products out there though. Look on Amazon and search online some for polishing scratches in glass. Plenty of tips and tricks.
 
Old Feb 16, 2019 | 10:04 AM
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I have scratches on all of my side windows, and they are pretty significant. I used to park under trees. I think mine were caused from crud getting stuck in there when not driving the truck for a few weeks at a time. the felts look fine when I inspected them. It drives me crazy.

out of curiosity, what happened to your old one when broken into that caused you to get rid of it?
 
Old Feb 16, 2019 | 10:22 AM
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TTLex, they used a screw driver or prybar to brake the rear glass out, when they did that it bent the door and when the glass came out it scratched the side (somehow front as well). Also it looked like they tried to jimmy the doors before they popped the glass and left dents on both front doors. All fixable and I was about to do so. I just decided to sell and get another one I was aware of.

At 65-70 a glass I may just replace the glass. I did take a peek at the felt and I can’t see anything obvious. I have been cleaning sap off if it and pine needles (it’s covered) so I suspect that to be the cause. I plan on keeping this one for a while, so new glass may be the easiest route... the scratches are mostly light but a few catch my finger nail. What I may do is check the glass closer and if one is all only light scratches I’ll polish it (if it’s cheaper than 70.00) if it catches my finger nail I’ll just replace it over time.

Sounds logical cal I think. Unless someone tells me the replacement glass is s bad idea for some reason?

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Old Feb 16, 2019 | 10:30 AM
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If its that cheap to replace the door glass I will go that route myself. Then I have to pay for tint again, but better than looking at these damn scratches. Mine are worse than yours for sure.
 
Old Feb 16, 2019 | 10:41 AM
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The rear doors are factory 20% but the front ones usually are tinted, mine were and that’s what drew my attention to the scratches... I was removing the tint so I could have it redone... than I thought why put tint on a scratched window... you can find the new glass on eBay or amazon or google search. 60-70 ish. I figure I’ll replace one at a time and when it’s apart I’ll clean all the felt and might even toss some Dyna Matt in the doors for the heck of it. I currently have the front door panels off so I can put some fiber Matt inside and around the handles for reinforcement (weak areas). Might as well keep them off till I replace the glass.

 
Old Feb 16, 2019 | 10:42 AM
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Yeah at that price new glass is really not too bad. Of course replacing the glass takes time as well and also requires the fairly risky removal of our, well known to be, very brittle and old door panels. I say risky because every time they are removed you run the risk of cracking plastic on them.

I just hate the glare from lights that fine scratches creates. It will literally start to give me a headache driving at night sometimes. Here in SC, if you have full coverage insurance, it is mandated that glass replacement is free. If laws in your state are similar than call a glass place and they will handle the insurance end of things. Had the windshield replaced in my 1999 GMC truck and afterwards it was truly shocking. Literally felt like I was driving around without a windshield at all it was suddenly so clear. I plan on having the one in my H2 replaced this summer when I pull it into my shop to work on a bunch of other things for a month or so. Our windshields are highly susceptible to damage due to the very vertical nature of them.

Good call on potentially adding some reinforcement to the panels as well myrddin...
 
Old Feb 16, 2019 | 10:48 AM
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True MixMan... as much as we need to look through the glass we might as well try to keep it clean. This H2 has a new windshield so that’s good. The door glass isint terrible in the back at all but the driver and passenger are easily the worst of them. I want to freshen this H2 up and enjoy it so might as well do it right. I have had all the door panels off already. And I agree it’s a stressful job because I’m afraid one will brake. I had the rear off last week to replace the door handles (did the front yesterday)... also this is why I want to add some fiber Matt to the inner panel area. I don’t want them to brake!
 
Old Feb 18, 2019 | 04:20 PM
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I pulled the door glass back out this morning. I took a close look at the outer felt window strip and I can see some corrosion on a few of the pins that hold the piece to the door. I’m wondering if that could be a cause for the scratches. Unfortunately while pulling it apart I messed up my back (2 back surgeries in my past)... so I wasn’t able to look further. I think if I clean it all up they will be fine but I wanted to share that info. I’ll get pics tomorrow when my back is behaving a little better. The felt strip looks fine over all. Just the clips inside is all I was able to see. I’m ordering both front door glass later this week. I’ll clean it up and toss it back together. I was also considering adding a felt strip to cover the inner part where the pins are (pics to follow so you know what I mean). Once I’m satisfied I will do the rear doors too.

 
Old Feb 18, 2019 | 09:20 PM
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If you're referring to GM 15192121 or 25805145 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/232409591550) then those 'pins' are tucked in to an inside bend of sheet metal within the door. If installed correctly, they should not be exposed or touching the glass regardless if they are corroded or not. You can confirm proper installation after you have installed the glass and rolled the window all the way down leaving the inside seal off and gently pulling the glass towards the inside of the truck to reveal proper installation of the outer seal.
 

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