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Old 05-22-2008, 12:02 PM
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Driving on the highway without sway bars is stupid. Removing the front sway bar on an IFS vehicle isn't to bright, and the rear is pretty flexy to start with, and probably adequate for trails a dealership selects to run stockHummers on.

Put the sway bars back on before you wreck your soon to be lease return.

Your StabiliTrak light was probably a result of the lack of sway bars.

Per some GM mumbo jumbo:
StabiliTrak works by comparing the driver’s intentions (indicated by steering wheel position) with how the vehicle is responding. Three key sensors keep the ABS and traction control computer informed: one reads steering wheel angle, another reports the vehicle’s lateral acceleration and the third measures yaw rate (rotational velocity about a vertical axis through the car’s center of gravity). Information is also gathered from vehicle speed.
 
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:48 PM
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Geeze Sewie... I'm not trying to be critical but DANG! Removing parts from a lease vehicle? Driving on the highway without the swaybar connected? (which probably freaked out the Stab Sys) Thinking you'll get Jeep flex from an IFS front end? I'd say you wasted your breath on that kid.
never said i was driving on the highway (it was a back road by my house), never said i was trying to get jeep flex out of an ifs


i realized after looking at the front end, it was a waste of time to take the front sway bar off. and as far as the stab sys goes, it should have nothing to do with the sway bar. ive been driving it fine except for that one time the past 2 days.


i dont think i wasted my breath. doesnt seem like i did something that critical to the truck. i ran my bronco with 37' tires, solid axles, and no sway bars on the highway all the time with no problems. this hummer is like a little toy car compared to that thing



 
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: Sewie

BTW, I know several people that mod and wheel the **** out of their leased vehicles. And while disconnecting the front swaybar will make for an interesting drive, unless tires are losing traction, Stabilitrak shouldn't care. It monitors wheel speed, not body sway.
From Steve #1
"StabiliTrak works by comparing the driver’s intentions (indicated by steering wheel position) with how the vehicle is responding. Three key sensors keep the ABS and traction control computer informed: one reads steering wheel angle, another reports the vehicle’s lateral acceleration and the third measures yaw rate (rotational velocity about a vertical axis through the car’s center of gravity). Information is also gathered from vehicle speed."

Don't confuse Stabilitrak with Traction Control. You can't turn Traction Control off but you can turn off Stabilitrak next to the 4x4 buttons. Also, when in 4Lo stabilitrak is automatically turned off (StabSys Off) because of the Yaw feature. Disconnecting the sway bars affects the yaw thus confusing the Stabilitrak. If you don't mash and hold the stabilitrak button for 6 seconds and turn it off it won't know the sway bars are off will throw a DIC warning.

Geeze, vehicles today are too complicated!
 
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Old 05-23-2008, 11:16 PM
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RealJeep, I think you have it backwards. The button onmine to turn off is TCS, traction control.
 
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:44 AM
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RealJeep, I think you have it backwards. The button on mine to turn off is TCS, traction control.
you can only turn traction control off when you are in 4-lo


other than that, the same button turns the stabilitrak off. you hold it down for about 6-8 second and wait for a notification on the dash. when you are in 4-lo you can hit the same button (just press) and it will turn your traction control off
 
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Old 05-24-2008, 10:35 AM
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This actually turned into a pretty decent post. I didn't think it was going anywhere at first. Nice job guys.
 
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:47 PM
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Thanks spaustin, Maybe I should read my owners manual again.
 
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:05 PM
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dont hold me to that, im pretty sure im right though, but someone else may be correcting me shortly
 
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:06 PM
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well went to the hummer happening event that my dealership sponsored today, no problems at all with the sway bar removed. got some good flex pics too!


***heres the link to the thread with the rest of the pics https://www.hummerforums.com/m_178269/tm.htm
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:07 PM
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more!


that step my tires is on is exactly 30" in the air, i wish i had an rti ramp, i think i could have gotten around 33-35" out of it, depending on how the ifs in the front did

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you can see here is the brake line, still had enough slack to extend another 2-3 inches even though it doesnt look like it, so for those of you that are worried about your brake line being to short, i think it will be fine (but its always good to check)
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