Idiots in hybrids
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"well i was expecting him to drive like a normal person, so i pulled in close thinking.... " Yeah, he did, according to his own words. Not arguing the guy infront of him was acting like an a$$ .. but lets look at this logically .. WHY was he doing that .. simple case of action/reaction ... I don't care if the guy in front of me stops 10 car lengths shy of the white line ... I STILL maintain a distance sufficient to stop my truck if I get rear ended .. little common curtesy for the driver infront of you .. plus .. if you do get rear ended yourself .. you won't be at fault since you won't rear end the guy ahead of you.
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You are correct my friend, but again, you are assuming branstone was right up on this guy's bumper. He never said he was, he just he got close. Close could be the normal distance between cars when stopped 
He never said " I was 1 inch away from him " He was stopped behind him like every other car, but wether or not he was 1 inch, 6 inches or 5 feet is unclear, so you are assuming a fact you don't quite know
He never said " I was 1 inch away from him " He was stopped behind him like every other car, but wether or not he was 1 inch, 6 inches or 5 feet is unclear, so you are assuming a fact you don't quite know
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Obviously by the reaction he received he was too close ... combined with his own comment .. yep .. you can say what you want here Mike, the circumstancial evidence presented makes a good case that he probably SHOULD have backed off because he was a bit too close initially... the fact that he anticipated the gentleman infront of him to drive "normal" but stopped 3 lengths shy supports this theory ...
Again, not arguing the guy infront of him was a jerkoff or nothing cuz he was .. but I think he put himself in that situation with his own actions .. and lets face it ... I think we've all done this because we get frustrated with idiot drivers ... and I highly doubt his accounts for the incident are as objective as lets say a 3rd person who wasn't involved ... human nature my friend .. we only assume responsibility for our actions if we HAVE to .. we often chose NOT to because we can get away with it ... and before I get acused of calling anyone a liar .. I'm NOT .. simply saying what I may find warranted in my eyes may not be warranted in yours ... hence forth I don't feel like I should take responsibility for something I never thought was wrong in the first place ...
Your shot ... make it a good one :P
Again, not arguing the guy infront of him was a jerkoff or nothing cuz he was .. but I think he put himself in that situation with his own actions .. and lets face it ... I think we've all done this because we get frustrated with idiot drivers ... and I highly doubt his accounts for the incident are as objective as lets say a 3rd person who wasn't involved ... human nature my friend .. we only assume responsibility for our actions if we HAVE to .. we often chose NOT to because we can get away with it ... and before I get acused of calling anyone a liar .. I'm NOT .. simply saying what I may find warranted in my eyes may not be warranted in yours ... hence forth I don't feel like I should take responsibility for something I never thought was wrong in the first place ...
Your shot ... make it a good one :P
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So, what you are saying, is you are assuming branstone was a little ticked off that this guy cut him off in the parking lot, and in turn tailgated him as a sort-of revenge for being cut off? That theory I can buy, but who the hell knows. I mean honestly, we have all done it, as well as myself, but I have never come across someone that has gotten that pissed off who would play stop and go games at the expense of wanting a H3 to rear end their Prius and taking the chance on it. That guy obviously had a road rage problem. I sure as hell would have never done that regardless of what kind of car I was driving, because I would not want someone to rear-end me. So, if THAT's why you assumed that, I understand it, but you are assuming because of what happened that he did it as some subconcious revenge for being cut off. Is that what you mean?
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(we will settle this in the Hummer Pool at the Badlands..............
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No, I think he simply did what most drivers do these days when they feel they deal with an idiot driverand someone reacted to it ... and rightfully so in my opinion. The way he went about it was certainly wrong .. but I don't think it would've happened at all had B not pulled up close enough to trigger said reaction ... Both parties were in the wrong in my opinion .. one for doing it and the other for reacting to it in a fashion that could've been handled far better than it was. But it is ALWAYS the trigger that causes the confrontation, there's ALWAYS a root cause for a reaction, and that my friend is the initial action ...
This of course falls short if you deal with an clinically insane person of some kind or another .. some of them folks don't need reasons .. but if we assume here that the guy in front wasn't one of these nutjobs .. then yeah ..
This of course falls short if you deal with an clinically insane person of some kind or another .. some of them folks don't need reasons .. but if we assume here that the guy in front wasn't one of these nutjobs .. then yeah ..
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You have a person driving a Prius with a H3 pulling behind it, while the Prius intentionally stops extremely far away from the stoplight. The person that first triggered the incident was the guy in the Prius, because he stopped 3 car lengths before the intersection. B (as we will call him now ) stops behind him. You are saying that this guy in the Prius would not have done what he did with the start and stop unless B was REALLY close to him. How do you know that? What if B was 20 feet behind him when he first stopped, then realized he was actually stopped and progressed forward? How is that provoking some idiot in a Prius to do what he did? You are assuming alot of things here:
A) You are assumingB was RIGHT on the Prius's bumper
B) You are assuming Bwas on his bumper close because he was upset about him getting cut off
C) You are assuming because the Prius driver did the stop and go incident, that it was because B was too close.
How do you know B was THAT close? IF this person was old, maybe 10 feet to him is close, maybe 20 feet to him is close, or maybe the guy just hates Hummers and wanted to be a d!ckhead and just **** B off.
You see where I'm going with this? I understand your point of view, but you are basing it all off of assumptions that 1) He was close to this guy's bumper (and we don't know HOW close) and 2) He did what he did because of that. Maybe the guy as I said just hates Hummers. I just don't think you should judge the actions of B without getting some facts first, ie, how far was he from the guy's rear when he was following behind him.
YOu know me better then anybody on this forum so you get what I'm saying right? You are just assuming ALOT but until B comes here and says "damn right I was right on his ***" or "I was 30 feet away from him the first time he slammed on his brakes" you won't know until he says it. I just think its unfairly judging someone without knowing the facts of the situation.
I know I wouldn't want to tel lthis story and have someone tell me I was wrong with what happened, even though I was cut off and was following the guy at a large distance. Wait and see what he says first (if he even comes back to this topic)
You may have scared him off
) stops behind him. You are saying that this guy in the Prius would not have done what he did with the start and stop unless B was REALLY close to him. How do you know that? What if B was 20 feet behind him when he first stopped, then realized he was actually stopped and progressed forward? How is that provoking some idiot in a Prius to do what he did? You are assuming alot of things here:A) You are assumingB was RIGHT on the Prius's bumper
B) You are assuming Bwas on his bumper close because he was upset about him getting cut off
C) You are assuming because the Prius driver did the stop and go incident, that it was because B was too close.
How do you know B was THAT close? IF this person was old, maybe 10 feet to him is close, maybe 20 feet to him is close, or maybe the guy just hates Hummers and wanted to be a d!ckhead and just **** B off.
You see where I'm going with this? I understand your point of view, but you are basing it all off of assumptions that 1) He was close to this guy's bumper (and we don't know HOW close) and 2) He did what he did because of that. Maybe the guy as I said just hates Hummers. I just don't think you should judge the actions of B without getting some facts first, ie, how far was he from the guy's rear when he was following behind him.
YOu know me better then anybody on this forum so you get what I'm saying right? You are just assuming ALOT but until B comes here and says "damn right I was right on his ***" or "I was 30 feet away from him the first time he slammed on his brakes" you won't know until he says it. I just think its unfairly judging someone without knowing the facts of the situation.
I know I wouldn't want to tel lthis story and have someone tell me I was wrong with what happened, even though I was cut off and was following the guy at a large distance. Wait and see what he says first (if he even comes back to this topic
)You may have scared him off
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You have a person driving a Prius with a H3 pulling behind it, while the Prius intentionally stops extremely far away from the stoplight. The person that first triggered the incident was the guy in the Prius, because he stopped 3 car lengths before the intersection. B (as we will call him now) stops behind him. You are saying that this guy in the Prius would not have done what he did with the start and stop unless B was REALLY close to him. How do you know that? What if B was 20 feet behind him when he first stopped, then realized he was actually stopped and progressed forward? How is that provoking some idiot in a Prius to do what he did? You are assuming alot of things here:
A) You are assumingB was RIGHT on the Prius's bumper
B) You are assuming Bwas on his bumper close because he was upset about him getting cut off
C) You are assuming because the Prius driver did the stop and go incident, that it was because B was too close.
How do you know B was THAT close? IF this person was old, maybe 10 feet to him is close, maybe 20 feet to him is close, or maybe the guy just hates Hummers and wanted to be a d!ckhead and just **** B off.
You see where I'm going with this? I understand your point of view, but you are basing it all off of assumptions that 1) He was close to this guy's bumper (and we don't know HOW close) and 2) He did what he did because of that. Maybe the guy as I said just hates Hummers. I just don't think you should judge the actions of B without getting some facts first, ie, how far was he from the guy's rear when he was following behind him.
YOu know me better then anybody on this forum so you get what I'm saying right? You are just assuming ALOT but until B comes here and says "damn right I was right on his ***" or "I was 30 feet away from him the first time he slammed on his brakes" you won't know until he says it. I just think its unfairly judging someone without knowing the facts of the situation.
I know I wouldn't want to tel lthis story and have someone tell me I was wrong with what happened, even though I was cut off and was following the guy at a large distance. Wait and see what he says first (if he even comes back to this topic)
You may have scared him off
You have a person driving a Prius with a H3 pulling behind it, while the Prius intentionally stops extremely far away from the stoplight. The person that first triggered the incident was the guy in the Prius, because he stopped 3 car lengths before the intersection. B (as we will call him now
) stops behind him. You are saying that this guy in the Prius would not have done what he did with the start and stop unless B was REALLY close to him. How do you know that? What if B was 20 feet behind him when he first stopped, then realized he was actually stopped and progressed forward? How is that provoking some idiot in a Prius to do what he did? You are assuming alot of things here:A) You are assumingB was RIGHT on the Prius's bumper
B) You are assuming Bwas on his bumper close because he was upset about him getting cut off
C) You are assuming because the Prius driver did the stop and go incident, that it was because B was too close.
How do you know B was THAT close? IF this person was old, maybe 10 feet to him is close, maybe 20 feet to him is close, or maybe the guy just hates Hummers and wanted to be a d!ckhead and just **** B off.
You see where I'm going with this? I understand your point of view, but you are basing it all off of assumptions that 1) He was close to this guy's bumper (and we don't know HOW close) and 2) He did what he did because of that. Maybe the guy as I said just hates Hummers. I just don't think you should judge the actions of B without getting some facts first, ie, how far was he from the guy's rear when he was following behind him.
YOu know me better then anybody on this forum so you get what I'm saying right? You are just assuming ALOT but until B comes here and says "damn right I was right on his ***" or "I was 30 feet away from him the first time he slammed on his brakes" you won't know until he says it. I just think its unfairly judging someone without knowing the facts of the situation.
I know I wouldn't want to tel lthis story and have someone tell me I was wrong with what happened, even though I was cut off and was following the guy at a large distance. Wait and see what he says first (if he even comes back to this topic
)You may have scared him off
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And just so you know, I agree with your theory and in most cases you are right, but this can also definitely be considered for the "Prius owner hates Hummers and wants to **** them off" catagory. I would just say give the guy a chance to explain the situation a little more before critisizing him for something he may or may not have done in the fashion you are assuming he did it in
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ORIGINAL: HummerGuy
You have a person driving a Prius with a H3 pulling behind it, while the Prius intentionally stops extremely far away from the stoplight. The person that first triggered the incident was the guy in the Prius, because he stopped 3 car lengths before the intersection. B (as we will call him now) stops behind him. You are saying that this guy in the Prius would not have done what he did with the start and stop unless B was REALLY close to him. How do you know that? What if B was 20 feet behind him when he first stopped, then realized he was actually stopped and progressed forward? How is that provoking some idiot in a Prius to do what he did? You are assuming alot of things here:
A) You are assumingB was RIGHT on the Prius's bumper
You have a person driving a Prius with a H3 pulling behind it, while the Prius intentionally stops extremely far away from the stoplight. The person that first triggered the incident was the guy in the Prius, because he stopped 3 car lengths before the intersection. B (as we will call him now
) stops behind him. You are saying that this guy in the Prius would not have done what he did with the start and stop unless B was REALLY close to him. How do you know that? What if B was 20 feet behind him when he first stopped, then realized he was actually stopped and progressed forward? How is that provoking some idiot in a Prius to do what he did? You are assuming alot of things here:A) You are assumingB was RIGHT on the Prius's bumper
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B) You are assuming Bwas on his bumper close because he was upset about him getting cut off
B) You are assuming Bwas on his bumper close because he was upset about him getting cut off
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C) You are assuming because the Prius driver did the stop and go incident, that it was because B was too close.
C) You are assuming because the Prius driver did the stop and go incident, that it was because B was too close.
ORIGINAL: HummerGuy
How do you know B was THAT close? IF this person was old, maybe 10 feet to him is close, maybe 20 feet to him is close, or maybe the guy just hates Hummers and wanted to be a d!ckhead and just **** B off.
How do you know B was THAT close? IF this person was old, maybe 10 feet to him is close, maybe 20 feet to him is close, or maybe the guy just hates Hummers and wanted to be a d!ckhead and just **** B off.
ORIGINAL: HummerGuy
You see where I'm going with this? I understand your point of view, but you are basing it all off of assumptions that 1) He was close to this guy's bumper (and we don't know HOW close) and 2) He did what he did because of that. Maybe the guy as I said just hates Hummers. I just don't think you should judge the actions of B without getting some facts first, ie, how far was he from the guy's rear when he was following behind him.
You see where I'm going with this? I understand your point of view, but you are basing it all off of assumptions that 1) He was close to this guy's bumper (and we don't know HOW close) and 2) He did what he did because of that. Maybe the guy as I said just hates Hummers. I just don't think you should judge the actions of B without getting some facts first, ie, how far was he from the guy's rear when he was following behind him.
No, I don't see where you're going since I haven't said half of the things you say I have LOL! And well .. ya'll had no problems judging the guy he pissed off without facts .. why not open this up to a two way conversation instead of just bashing away on the other side .. ALSO without facts ... just a thought but I figured that would be more fair ....
ORIGINAL: HummerGuy
YOu know me better then anybody on this forum so you get what I'm saying right? You are just assuming ALOT but until B comes here and says "damn right I was right on his ***" or "I was 30 feet away from him the first time he slammed on his brakes" you won't know until he says it. I just think its unfairly judging someone without knowing the facts of the situation.
I know I wouldn't want to tel lthis story and have someone tell me I was wrong with what happened, even though I was cut off and was following the guy at a large distance. Wait and see what he says first (if he even comes back to this topic)
You may have scared him off
YOu know me better then anybody on this forum so you get what I'm saying right? You are just assuming ALOT but until B comes here and says "damn right I was right on his ***" or "I was 30 feet away from him the first time he slammed on his brakes" you won't know until he says it. I just think its unfairly judging someone without knowing the facts of the situation.
I know I wouldn't want to tel lthis story and have someone tell me I was wrong with what happened, even though I was cut off and was following the guy at a large distance. Wait and see what he says first (if he even comes back to this topic
)You may have scared him off
