I used to argue for the hummers on youtube but, being youtube, they didnt budge, even the ones that new what they were talking about. the thing that gets me more pissed off is the people that say a range rover is better than a hummer, the people who say that have never even seen that where they live (no offense europeans, you just see a hel of a lot more rovers than hummers) I havent ever been into rovers and try not to speak for them but we all know hummer is top!