The admins do seem to be a little scarce these days. BB I think the club section idea got shot down only because it has been tried on some different forums and for whatever reason didn't flourish. Not sure if we can outperform the other forums or not. It seems to make sense on the surface...kind of act like a feeder program to the main forum but I guess the other guys haven't been able to make it work. I am ok with giving the idea a try and seeing if it takes off.