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Old 09-01-2021, 11:12 AM
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Looks like "ATF Dexron III H Specification" is the key word, is there a particular brand though to look out for?

The lubricant market is vast, Dexron per say is a GM trade name so googling finds many hits.

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Thanks for that 👍

I see Dexron VI is now the one approved by GM and replaces III H.

ACD is hard to find here in the UK though, so I'm looking for the best UK brand - will post what I find
 
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The bulletin from 14yrs ago:
Bulletin No.: 04-07-30-037C
DEXRON®-VI License Holders
GM began publishing a list in 2007 of approved DEXRON®-VI suppliers and oils, including respective license numbers for its DEXRON®-VI ATF, in an effort to make it easier for prospective customers to know which companies have official licenses. The complete list represents the companies who have conducted the appropriate testing and received GM approval. Company name, license number, and brand name are shown.
The below latest list, provided to OEM/Lube News by Rich Zampardo, (GMSPO Global Aftersales Engineering) GM, also includes the newer DEXRON® HP approved ATF, which are formulated with PAO base fluids. Specifically, these suppliers include Afton Chemical Corporation, Valvoline, SK Lubricants, Shell International, Chevron Products Company and ExxonMobil Corporation(not incls pbh).
The complete latest revised GM DEXRON®-VI ATF list of approved suppliers and oils, including respective license numbers, is as follows.

— Original Formulators (J-60001-60017 / J-62001-62003)

J-60001 Petro-Canada Lubricants DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60002(1) ExxonMobil Corporation IMP 6544
J-60002(2) ExxonMobil Corporation DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60003 SK Corporation ZIC DEXRON®-VI
J-60004(1) ConocoPhillips Company DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60004(2) ConocoPhillips Company Kendall Motor Oil Company DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60005(1) Chevron Corporation ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60005(2) Chevron Corporation Havoline ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60006 Sinopec Corporation XunDong ATF VI
J-60007 S-Oil Corporation SSU ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60008 Afton Chemical Corporation (trade name TBD)
J-60009 PETRONAS TUTELA Transmission DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60010 Idemitsu Kosan (Trade name TBD)
J-60011 Afton Chemical Corporation (trade name TBD)
J-60012 Afton Chemical Corporation (trade name TBD)
J-60013 Afton Chemical Corporation (Trade name TBD)
J-60014 Shell Global Solutions (trade name TBD)
J-60015 Afton Chemical Corporation (trade name TBD)
J-60016 Afton Chemical Corporation (trade name TBD)
J-60017 Sinopec Corporation (trade name TBD)

J-62001 Infineum USA (trade name TBD)
J-62002 Infineum USA (trade name TBD)
J-62003 Infineum USA LP (trade name TBD)

— Reblenders (J-60151-60182 / J-62100-62106)

J-60151 Valvoline ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60152 Allegheny Petroleum Altra SHL DEXRON® VI — LV
J-60153(1) Smitty's Supply Super S
J-60153(2) Smitty's Supply Sure Guard
J-60154(1) Shell Lubricants ACDelco DEXRON®-VI
J-60154(2) Shell Lubricants Quaker State ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60154(3) Shell Lubricants Pennzoil DEXRON®-VI
J-60155 Advanced Lubrication Specialties Advantage DEXRON®-VI
J-60156(1) Amalie Oil Company DEXRON®-VI Synthetic ATF
J-60156(2) Amalie Oil Company Wolf's Head DEXRON®-VI Synthetic ATF
J-60156(3) Amalie Oil Company Xcel DEXRON®-VI Synthetic ATF
J-60157 Universal Lubricants DEXRON®-VI
J-60158 CAM2 International (trade name TBD)
J-60159 Citgo Petroleum Corporation TranGard DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60160 Afton Chemical Corporation HiTEC® 4006Y
J-60161 Warren Distribution MAG 1 DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60162(1) BP Lubricants USA, Inc. Castrol DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60162(2) BP Lubricants USA, Inc. Castrol Transmax DEX VI
J-60163 Fuchs-Europe Schmierstoffe GmbH TITAN ATF 6000 SL
J-60164(1) Warren Oil Company COASTAL DEXRON®-VI
J-60164(2) Warren Oil Company DEXRON®-VI
J-60164(3) Warren Oil Company LUBRIGUARD DEXRON®-VI
J-60164(4) Warren Oil Company SERVICE PRO DEXRON®-VI
J-60165 ZXP Technologies Ltd. 1st Priority DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60166 Total Lubrifiants Fluidmatic VI
J-60167 Gazpromneft-Lubricants, Ltd. G-Box ATF DX VI
J-60168 Valvoline DEXRON®-HP (trade name TBD)
J-60169 SK Corporation DEXRON®-HP (trade name TBD)
J-60170 Shell Lubricants DEXRON®-HP (trade name TBD)
J-60171 Chevron Products Company DEXRON®-HP (trade name TBD)
J-60172(1) BP Lubricants Castrol DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60172(2) BP Lubricants Castrol Transmax Dex VI
J-60172(3) BP Lubricants Transmax Dex VI LV Multivehicle
J-60173 Allegheny Petroleum Altra DEXRON®-VI Transmission Fluid
J-60174 Warren Distribution MAG 1 DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60175(1) Phillips 66 Company Lubricants DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60175(2) Phillips 66 Company Kendall DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60176 Martin Operating Partnership LC SynGard™ Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle ATF
J-60177 CAM2 International LLC DEXRON®-VI / MERCON® LV Full Synthetic ATF
J-60178 Colorado Petroleum (trade name TBD)
J-60179 ExxonMobil Corp (trade name TBD)
J-60180 Omni Specialty Packaging (trade name TBD)
J-60181 Smitty's Supply (trade name TBD)
J-60182 Shell International Petroleum Company Pennzoil Platinum LV Multi-Vehicle ATF Shell Spirax S6 ATF X

J-62100(1) Warren Oil Company LubriGold® FULL SYNTHETIC MULTI-VEHICLE DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-62100(2) Warren Oil Company DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-62100(3) Warren Oil Company Coastal® DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-62101 Pinnacle Oil National DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-62102 Warren Distribution Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-62103 Chevron Product Company Havoline Synthetic ATF Multi-Vehicle DEXRON®VI
J-62104 Ashland, Inc. Valvoline DEXRON-VI
J-62105 Calumet Specialty Products Partners, LP (trade name TBD)
J-62106 OOO LLK-International(LukOil) LUKOIL ATF SYNTH VI

— Rebranders (J-60301-60433 / J-62300-62309)

J-60301(1) GMSPO GM Vehicle Care DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60301(2) ACDelco DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60302 Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd ATF DX-VI
J-60303 Afton Chemical Corporation HiTEC® 4006
J-60304 Gulf Oil International DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60305 Afton Chemical Corporation HiTEC® 4006Y
J-60306 American Agip Co. Inc. DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60307(1) Shell Lubricants ACDelco DEXRON®-VI
J-60307(2) Shell Lubricants Quaker State ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60307(3) Shell Lubricants Pennzoil DEXRON®-VI
J-60308(1) Chevron Products Company ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60308(2) Chevron Products Company Havoline ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60309 BP Lubricants USA, Inc. Castrol DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60310 Fuchs Petrolub AG TITAN ATF 6000 SL
J-60311 Gulf Oil International DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60312 Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd ATF DX-VI
J-60313 Valvoline(Australia) Pty Ltd ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60314 Kuwait Petroleum Q8 Auto D VI
J-60315 PDVSA Deltaven SA TRANSFLUIDO SINTETICO DVI
J-60316 Northland Products DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60317 CITGO Petroleum Corporation TRANSGARD DEXRON®-VI
J-60318(1) Warren Oil Company COASTAL DEXRON®-VI
J-60318(2) Warren Oil Company DEXRON®-VI
J-60318(3) Warren Oil Company LUBRIGUARD DEXRON®-VI
J-60318(4) Warren Oil Company SERVICE PRO DEXRON®-VI
J-60319 Valvoline ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60320 Pinnacle Resources, Inc. Multipurpose DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60321(1) Pinnacle Oil, Inc. National DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60321(2) Pinnacle Oil, Inc. Marathon DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60322 Lubricating Specialties Company Unitran DEXRON®-VI
J-60323 Carquest DEXRON®-VI Full Synthetic ATF
J-60324 Morris Lubricants Liquimatic DS
J-60325 Schaeffer Manufacturing Company DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60326 Hicks Oil Inc. Formula 500
J-60327 CAM2 Oil Products Synthetic ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60328 Superior Lubricants Tuxton DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60329 CAM2 Oil Products Synthetic ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60330 Total Lubrifiants Fluidmatic VI
J-60331 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH RAVENOL DEXRON®-VI
J-60332 Idemitsu Lubricants America Corporation (trade name TBD)
J-60333 Isuzu Motors America, Inc. ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60334 Mainlube Superior Maintenance Lubricants — 161
J-60335 Raloy Lubricantes Trans Fluid RDX-VI
J-60336 Chevron Products Company ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60336 Chevron Products Company Havoline ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60337 Tianjin Idemitsu Lube Co., Ltd. (trade name TBD)
J-60338 SYNECO SpA (trade name TBD)
J-60339 Adnoc Distribution (trade name TBD)
J-60340 Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. SuperTech DEXRON®-VI
J-60341 Cogelsa (trade name TBD)
J-60342 Excelda Manufacturing Company (trade name TBD)
J-60343 Golden West Packaging DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60344 ENOC International Sales LLC (trade name TBD)
J-60345 Lee Helms, Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-60346 Old World Industries Peak Professional DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60347 Lubrication Engineers, Inc. 1136 DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60348 Lubricants USA FINA DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60349 Lubricants USA FINA DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60350 Colorado Petroleum Products (trade name TBD)
J-60351 Bob Johnson Lubricants Hartland DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60352 Shell Tongyi Petroleum Chemical (trade name TBD)
J-60353 Lyden Oil Company Proguard DEXRON®-VI
J-60354 Coastal Blending & Packaging Transflo Dex VI
J-60355 Carquest Canada, Ltd. DEXRON®-VI
J-60356 LubeMark LLC 1st Priority DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60357(1) Chevron Products Company ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60357(2) Chevron Products Company Havoline ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60358 North American Lubricants Company PureSYN DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60359 Federated Auto Parts Distributors Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-60360 Chrysler Motors LLC (trade name TBD)
J-60361 Jinan Zero Mileage Lubricating Company (trade name TBD)
J-60362 Excelda Manufacturing Company (trade name TBD)
J-60363 Whitecourt Oil (trade name TBD)
J-60364 Association of Independent Oil Distributors (trade name TBD)
J-60365 Aftermarket Auto Parts Alliance, Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-60366 Advanced Auto Pats (trade name TBD)
J-60367 Sheyang Xima Chemical Co., Ltd. (trade name TBD)
J-60368 Navistar International Corporation (trade name TBD)
J-60369 Jackson Petrochemical Co. Ltd. (trade name TBD)
J-60370 Total Lubricants USA, Inc. DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60371 Uni-Select Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-60372 O'Reilly Auto Parts (trade name TBD)
J-60373 Delta Petroleum Co. Group (trade name TBD)
J-60374 Nu-Tier Brands Gulfpride Synthetic Multi-Vehicle DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60375 Repsol / YPF SA/ YPF Brazil YPF HIDRO ATF D VI
J-60376 AutoZone Parts, Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-60377 Alliance Parts Warehouse (trade name TBD)
J-60378 AutoZone Parts, Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-60379 Old World Industries Peak DEXRON®-VI
J-60380 Old World Industries Peak DEXRON®-VI
J-60381 The Pep Boys (trade name TBD)
J-60382 Yinhang Petrochemical Co. (trade name TBD)
J-60383 National Pronto Association (trade name TBD)
J-60384 Genuine Parts Company (trade name TBD)
J-60385 Oil Company, Ltd. (trade name TBD)
J-60386 Automotive Distribution Network (trade name TBD)
J-60387 Omni Specialties Packaging (trade name TBD)
J-60388 Aftermarket Auto Parts Alliance, Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-60389 Besybuy Distributors (trade name TBD)
J-60390 Uni-Select Eastern, Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-60391 Guangdong Delian Group (trade name TBD)
J-60392 C.A.T. Products, Inc./Run Rite (trade name TBD)
J-60393 PTT Public Company Limited (trade name TBD)
J-60394 General Motors Company (trade name TBD)
J-60395 Shanghai Tempo Petroche Co., Ltd. (trade name TBD)
J-60396 Qingdao Copton Technology (trade name TBD)
J-60397 Prime Automative PrimeGuard
J-60398 Bardahl Asia Pacific (trade name TBD)
J-60399 IGPL France IGOL ATF VI
J-60400 Jinan Kefa Sino-US High lubricant Co. (trade name TBD)
J-60401 Walmart Stores (trade name TBD)
J-60402 PT Pertamina(Persero) ATF DEXRON®-VI
J-60403 Hartland lubricants (trade name TBD)
J-60404 Total Specialties USA, Inc. DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-60405 Dalian Hilubo Oil (trade name TBD)
J-60406 Lyden Oil Proguard DEXRON®-VI
J-60407 Nu-Tier Brands Gulfpride Synthetic Multi-Vehicle DEXRON®-VI
J-60408 Old World Industries Peak DEXRON®-VI
J-60409 Sinclair Oil Corporation (trade name TBD)
J-60410 National Pronto Association (trade name TBD)
J-60411 Prime Automative PrimeGuard
J-60412 Radco Industries (trade name TBD)
J-60413 Harrison Manufacturing (trade name TBD)
J-60414 Federated Auto Parts Distributors (trade name TBD)
J-60415 O'Reilly Auto Parts (trade name TBD)
J-60416 Walmart Stores (trade name TBD)
J-60417 The Pep Boys (trade name TBD)
J-60418 MBM(Tiajin) Petrochemical Industrial (trade name TBD)
J-60419 AutoZone Parts, Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-60420 ExxonMobil Corp (trade name TBD)
J-60421 United Petroleum Company (trade name TBD)
J-60422 BP Lubricants (trade name TBD)
J-60423 Singapore Petroleum Company DURASHIFT ATF VI
J-60424 Warren Distribution (trade name TBD)
J-60425 Jiangsu Lopal Tech Co., Ltd (trade name TBD)
J-60426 PetroChina Lubricant Company (trade name TBD)
J-60427 Qingdao CHAMP Petrochemicals Co., Ltd. (trade name TBD)
J-60428 AutoZone Parts Inc (trade name TBD)
J-60429 Association of Independent Oil Distributors (trade name TBD)
J-60430 Hicks Oil Inc. (trade name TBD)
J-60431 Bahrain Petroleum Company Bapco DEXRON® VI
J-60432 Old World Industries Blue Mountain Brand
J-60433 Schaeffer Manufacturing Company DEXRON®-VI / MERCON®LV ATF

J-62300 Chevron Product Company Havoline Synthetic ATF Multi-Vehicle DEXRON®VI
J-62301 CARQUEST Corporation DEXRON®-VI Full Synthetic ATF
J-62302 AutoZone Inc. DEXRON® VI ATF
J-62303 ServicePro, Inc. Service Pro Premium DEXRON® VI ATF
J-62304 Automotive Distribution Network Parts Plus DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-62305 Automotive Distribution Network Auto Pride DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-62306 Uni-Select, Inc. Auto Extra DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-62307 Genuine Parts Company NAPA DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-62308 Aftermarket Auto Parts Alliance, Inc. Parts Master DEXRON®-VI ATF
J-62309 Chevron Product Company Advance Auto Parts ATF DEXRON®-VI
 
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Old 09-03-2021, 05:19 AM
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Thanks for that again, indeed I have seen these amazingly long lists of ATF manufacturers, based on that it seems like any Dexron VI should work.



 
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What a can of worms the subject of "changing" transmission fluid is i.e. the pro's and cons

So here's what seems to be the case:-
  • Maintenance Schedule says change fluid and filter (normal service) every 60,000 miles.
  • Some sources say if the fluid is reddish but not black and burnt, change as normal. If black and/or burnt changing may cause slipping, so it's better to leave as is and keep going.
  • Also it's seems that flushing is not recommended, just drain and filter change.
Mine is not black or burnt and looks reddish to brownish so needs changing but at what a risk?

Nothing is ever simple or so it seems
 
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Originally Posted by oceanbrave
What a can of worms the subject of "changing" transmission fluid is i.e. the pro's and cons

So here's what seems to be the case:-
  • Maintenance Schedule says change fluid and filter (normal service) every 60,000 miles.
  • Some sources say if the fluid is reddish but not black and burnt, change as normal. If black and/or burnt changing may cause slipping, so it's better to leave as is and keep going.
  • Also it's seems that flushing is not recommended, just drain and filter change.
Mine is not black or burnt and looks reddish to brownish so needs changing but at what a risk?

Nothing is ever simple or so it seems
The reason for monitoring fluid color is a guide for replacement of the fluid to prevent premature failure.Same with Engine, Steering, Differential, Brake,Coolant, etc... fluids. Auto repair shops I've worked at, had BG oil comparison plates & coolant brake fluid test strips, to show the customer, (pic below)! If changing your transmission fluid causes a problem? You know the transmission was soon to expire, mostly due to LACK OF MAINTENANCE! Btw, you are driving "SEVERE SERVICE". I highly recommend monitoring fluid color, and replacing fluid every 30k miles max, ALL the fluid. The 4l60/65/80 can achieve up to 400k+miles when properly maintained.







 
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Thank you as always.

Indeed I've watched Chrisfix's video several times and looking at my transmission fluid, I'd say it's fractionally to the left of his scale, may be "old and dirty", certainly not black and burned, but needs changing.

It's difficult to judge colors from jpgs due to camera response, lighting and color grading etc, I'll have to make a judgment call.

Plan is to drain fluid, fit new filter, new fluid pan (with a drain plug and magnet) refill with Dexron VI and run for a few 100 miles then check and possibly change fluid again or flush.

I've bought a small electric pump which is amazing and quick, it will make the pan change a lot less messy ($16 eBay) even if it only works once it doesn't matter

A friend of mine changed his trans-fluid and it started slipping, hence my nervousness, but his H2's service history is unknown.

If mine starts slipping you'll hear the scream all the way from here...


 
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I've corrected 99% transmissions slipping by flushing. First by adding a pre-flush cleaner, then removing/replacing all the fluid. Your fluid does look dark with a hint of pink, just add a can of trans tune to clean, then remove as much fluid as you can. Fresh clean fluid does a tranny good!
 
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Thanks hummerz that's a great suggestion, definitely worth doing..

The Sea Foam product in the video looks like "Hydra Trans Tune Additive TT16" (??) hard to find this side of the pond, but I think I can get some.

Was looking at making a video of the transmission job, I can include/exclude your SeaFoam tip - what do you think?

Obviously I'm no auto-expert, just in it for fun and because Hummer service is non-existent and experts expensive and hard to find.

Even doing stuff myself has cost a small fortune, brake pads, drums, rotars, brake cables, brake lines, fuel pump, air-suspension, shocks, stabilizer links, bump-stops, tire carrier, nurf-bars, radio, A/C compressor ++, re-gassing, power-fold, mirror-glass motors, DDM, front wiper motor, blower resistor, new rims, tires, tools to name but a few items.

Nearly forgot, 3 fuel doors, serpentine belts and tensioners, new cats, MAF Sensor, tailgate struts, 2-off Tech2

Oh and there's the fuel price at $8.50 / gallon.

Must seem like I'm complaining, but the balance is the fun value - I think


I sometimes wonder what on earth I'm doing..... if it wasn't for the help from this forum I'd have quit long ago 👍👍
 

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