Synthetic oil
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Why do I always get the people that feed me BS, and why do I always believe it [&o]
Why do I always get the people that feed me BS, and why do I always believe it [&o]
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Yeah I've started to turn into one of those dealing with these morons building my home. I stopped listening to their BS and got my attorney on their *** for some things. Now they are kissing it instead of kicking it [:@]
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FYI
FOUR BALL WEAR OVERVIEW
(ASTM D-4172)
- The Four Ball Wear Test determines the wear protection properties of a lubricant.
- Three metal ***** are clamped together and covered with the test lubricant, while a rotating fourth ball is pressed against them in sliding contact.
- This contact typically produces a wear scar, which is measured and recorded.
- The smaller the average wear scar, the better the wear protection provided by the lubricant.
- AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil provides unsurpassed protection against engine wear. Equipment life is extended, and repairs, downtime and expenses are reduced.
- AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil produced the smallest wear scar of the tested lubricants. The smaller the number the better the wear protection.
FOUR-BALL WEAR (ASTM D-4172)
(May 2003 Test Results)
- Pennzoil with Purebase 0.65 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Quaker State Peak Performance 0.60 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Castrol GTX Drive Hard 0.60 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Valvoline 0.60 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Mobil 1 Super Syn 0.60 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Pennzoil Synthetic 0.60 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Mobil Drive Clean 0.55 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Quaker State Synthetic 0.55 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Valvoline Syn Power 0.55 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Castrol Syntec 0.45 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- AMSOIL ATM 0.40 mm Wear Scar Diameter
FYI
FOUR BALL WEAR OVERVIEW
(ASTM D-4172)
- The Four Ball Wear Test determines the wear protection properties of a lubricant.
- Three metal ***** are clamped together and covered with the test lubricant, while a rotating fourth ball is pressed against them in sliding contact.
- This contact typically produces a wear scar, which is measured and recorded.
- The smaller the average wear scar, the better the wear protection provided by the lubricant.
- AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil provides unsurpassed protection against engine wear. Equipment life is extended, and repairs, downtime and expenses are reduced.
- AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil produced the smallest wear scar of the tested lubricants. The smaller the number the better the wear protection.
FOUR-BALL WEAR (ASTM D-4172)
(May 2003 Test Results)
- Pennzoil with Purebase 0.65 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Quaker State Peak Performance 0.60 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Castrol GTX Drive Hard 0.60 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Valvoline 0.60 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Mobil 1 Super Syn 0.60 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Pennzoil Synthetic 0.60 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Mobil Drive Clean 0.55 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Quaker State Synthetic 0.55 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Valvoline Syn Power 0.55 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- Castrol Syntec 0.45 mm Wear Scar Diameter
- AMSOIL ATM 0.40 mm Wear Scar Diameter
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OK You've convinced me. You should know by now I'm a big skeptic of things unless I see it or do it for myself ;-)
SO, IF Amsoil is so great, why aren't you or anybody else using it? NO I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm just curious. I have honestly never heard of the stuff until you guys started talking about it in this thread.
And on that note, I see my Valvoline SynPower is up there with Amsoil and Castrol, so now I know I wasn't dreaming when I was using that stuff and noticed a difference.
Here is a blurb from Amsoil's store:
SERVICE LIFE
AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil is recommended for extended drain intervals in unmodified(1), mechanically sound(2) gasoline fueled vehicles as follows:
• Normal Service(3) – Up to 25,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.
• Severe Service(4) – Up to 15,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.
25,000 miles or 1 year? Are they seriously saying that it's possible one oil change can last up to 25000 miles?
SO, IF Amsoil is so great, why aren't you or anybody else using it? NO I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm just curious. I have honestly never heard of the stuff until you guys started talking about it in this thread.
And on that note, I see my Valvoline SynPower is up there with Amsoil and Castrol, so now I know I wasn't dreaming when I was using that stuff and noticed a difference.
Here is a blurb from Amsoil's store:
SERVICE LIFE
AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil is recommended for extended drain intervals in unmodified(1), mechanically sound(2) gasoline fueled vehicles as follows:
• Normal Service(3) – Up to 25,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.
• Severe Service(4) – Up to 15,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.
25,000 miles or 1 year? Are they seriously saying that it's possible one oil change can last up to 25000 miles?
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I would use Amsoil if:
1. it wasn't so damn expensive ($6.00/qt HERE)
2. it was easy to get....it's sold by an Amsoil agent and they are hard to find...You kinda need to be in the clique.
Amsoil has been around for 25 or 30 years...It is the best stuff out there...Castrol Syntec is the next best thing IMO.
1. it wasn't so damn expensive ($6.00/qt HERE)
2. it was easy to get....it's sold by an Amsoil agent and they are hard to find...You kinda need to be in the clique.
Amsoil has been around for 25 or 30 years...It is the best stuff out there...Castrol Syntec is the next best thing IMO.
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I guess that's why I have never heard of it. I guess since there isn't going to be a major difference between that and Castrol, that makes sense. See, THIS is why I ask so many questions. I like learning these things if they are going to benefit me. You may have converted me to Castrol. You can buy that stuff everywhere. Now, On to which OIL filter is the best
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And as always I enjoy very much sharing with you and others the years of my experiences..It's not for brag, but just to make sure that if I do one thing and that is to pass along the best information to the best of my knowledge...Maybe that's why I've been an instructor of engineering for 14 years..I like teaching..
My best recommendation for oil filters would be to stay with the OEM filter ACDelco PF-61..And thereason would be if it fouls up and ruins the engine it's for sure on GM dime...you get my meaning?
I change my oil every 5K..so regardless of the filter and oil brand, it's gonna get changed.
My best recommendation for oil filters would be to stay with the OEM filter ACDelco PF-61..And thereason would be if it fouls up and ruins the engine it's for sure on GM dime...you get my meaning?
I change my oil every 5K..so regardless of the filter and oil brand, it's gonna get changed.
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And it looks like the filter is only $4.99 on carparts.com, which apparently is now JCWhitney. Interesting. I wonder if carparts.com was owned by them the entire time.
I can't understand how a K&N or any other oil filter can actually increase engine performance. It's just a matter of how well it filters the contaminents correct?
I can't understand how a K&N or any other oil filter can actually increase engine performance. It's just a matter of how well it filters the contaminents correct?
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Wasn't JC Whitney and Warshowski's right across the street from each other In Chicago? and JC was the catalog business and Warshowski's was the walk-in retail side of it?
And you are quite correct..the OIL filter only filters..if it keeps the oil clean, it will help in preventing engine wear, not performance.
And you are quite correct..the OIL filter only filters..if it keeps the oil clean, it will help in preventing engine wear, not performance.