Sopranos...........WTF?
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RE: Sopranos...........WTF?
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Saw this in the comments section of an entertainment rag's web site. Don;t know how much of it is true,
but it is an interesting take on things. Parts of what the guy says seem to be true, but I can;t remember
far enough back to lend any credence to the rest.......
Gunner
>
>OK, at first I was really angry. I mean really, really angry. I can't
>believe though that no-one has posted by now what happened. The only
>thing I saw that was right, was that in the last scene we are seeing
>through Tony's eyes (the black screen). Remember when he was speaking with
>Bobby on the boat...basically saying that you don't see it happening when
>you die...you just see blackness?
>
>So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as
>Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6
>during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that
>long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki
>Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David
>Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.
>
>So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know
>the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you
>will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant.
>The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in
>Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the
>body. The boy scouts were in the train store and the black guys at the
>end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear
>(was that season 2 or 3?).
>
>Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who
>had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of
>proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever
>despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony
>would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does
>he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow
>didn't get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and
>Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family.
>
>Thank you David Chase for making it so obscure that I feel bad for
>hating you at first. Absolutely amazing!!!!"
Saw this in the comments section of an entertainment rag's web site. Don;t know how much of it is true,
but it is an interesting take on things. Parts of what the guy says seem to be true, but I can;t remember
far enough back to lend any credence to the rest.......
Gunner
>
>OK, at first I was really angry. I mean really, really angry. I can't
>believe though that no-one has posted by now what happened. The only
>thing I saw that was right, was that in the last scene we are seeing
>through Tony's eyes (the black screen). Remember when he was speaking with
>Bobby on the boat...basically saying that you don't see it happening when
>you die...you just see blackness?
>
>So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as
>Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6
>during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that
>long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki
>Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David
>Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.
>
>So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know
>the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you
>will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant.
>The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in
>Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the
>body. The boy scouts were in the train store and the black guys at the
>end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear
>(was that season 2 or 3?).
>
>Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who
>had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of
>proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever
>despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony
>would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does
>he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow
>didn't get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and
>Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family.
>
>Thank you David Chase for making it so obscure that I feel bad for
>hating you at first. Absolutely amazing!!!!"
WOW!!!! I gotta start from SEASON ONE again JUST to check this out!!!
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Latest info........
[/align][/align]
Tony Is Dead 'Sopranos' Theory May Be Valid[/align]Dying Once Described as 'Everything Just Goes Black'[/align][/align]By Steve Gorman[/align]Reuters[/align]
LOS ANGELES (June 15) -- Fans of "The Sopranos" are seizing on clues suggesting the controversial blackout which abruptly ended the TV mob drama meant that Tony Soprano was rubbed out, and HBO said on Thursday they may be on to something.
One clue in particular, a flashback in the penultimate episode to a conversation between Tony and his brother-in-law about death, gained credence as an HBO spokesman called it a "legitimate" hint and confirmed that series creator David Chase had a definite ending in mind.
[/align]"While he won't say to me 100 percent what it all means, he says some people who've guessed have come closer than others," HBO spokesman Quentin Schaffer told Reuters after speaking to Chase.
"There are definitely things there that he intended for people to pick up on," Schaffer said.
Chase himself suggested as much in an interview on Tuesday with The Star-Ledger newspaper of New Jersey when he said of his end to the HBO series, "Anyone who wants to watch it, it's all there."[/align][/align]In the final moments of Sunday's concluding episode, Tony, the conflicted mob boss who has just survived a round of gangland warfare, sits in a diner with his family munching on onion rings as the 1980s song by rock band Journey, "Don't Stop Believing," blares from a juke box.
Tension builds as a suspicious man wearing a "Members Only" jacket eyes Tony from a nearby counter before slipping into a restroom. Then, as Tony looks toward the restaurant's entrance, the screen abruptly goes blank in mid-scene -- with no picture or sound for 10 seconds -- until the credits roll silently.
Stunned viewers, many initially believing something had gone wrong with their cable TV reception, were left wondering whether Tony ended up "whacked" or whether his sordid life went on as usual.
The jarring, fill-in-the-blank finale, concluding a show widely hailed as America's greatest television drama, sparked a furious debate about whether Chase had conceived of an actual ending and whether he left the audience any clues.
The biggest hint, according to a consensus taking shape on the Web, is a scene from an earlier episode in which Tony and his brother-in-law, Bobby Bacala, muse about what it feels like to die.
"At the end, you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black," Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.
LOS ANGELES (June 15) -- Fans of "The Sopranos" are seizing on clues suggesting the controversial blackout which abruptly ended the TV mob drama meant that Tony Soprano was rubbed out, and HBO said on Thursday they may be on to something.
One clue in particular, a flashback in the penultimate episode to a conversation between Tony and his brother-in-law about death, gained credence as an HBO spokesman called it a "legitimate" hint and confirmed that series creator David Chase had a definite ending in mind.
[/align]"While he won't say to me 100 percent what it all means, he says some people who've guessed have come closer than others," HBO spokesman Quentin Schaffer told Reuters after speaking to Chase.
"There are definitely things there that he intended for people to pick up on," Schaffer said.
Chase himself suggested as much in an interview on Tuesday with The Star-Ledger newspaper of New Jersey when he said of his end to the HBO series, "Anyone who wants to watch it, it's all there."[/align][/align]In the final moments of Sunday's concluding episode, Tony, the conflicted mob boss who has just survived a round of gangland warfare, sits in a diner with his family munching on onion rings as the 1980s song by rock band Journey, "Don't Stop Believing," blares from a juke box.
Tension builds as a suspicious man wearing a "Members Only" jacket eyes Tony from a nearby counter before slipping into a restroom. Then, as Tony looks toward the restaurant's entrance, the screen abruptly goes blank in mid-scene -- with no picture or sound for 10 seconds -- until the credits roll silently.
Stunned viewers, many initially believing something had gone wrong with their cable TV reception, were left wondering whether Tony ended up "whacked" or whether his sordid life went on as usual.
The jarring, fill-in-the-blank finale, concluding a show widely hailed as America's greatest television drama, sparked a furious debate about whether Chase had conceived of an actual ending and whether he left the audience any clues.
The biggest hint, according to a consensus taking shape on the Web, is a scene from an earlier episode in which Tony and his brother-in-law, Bobby Bacala, muse about what it feels like to die.
"At the end, you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black," Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.
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RE: Sopranos...........WTF?
ORIGINAL: Trayderjoe
Latest info........
[/align][/align]
Latest info........
Tony Is Dead 'Sopranos' Theory May Be Valid[/align]Dying Once Described as 'Everything Just Goes Black'[/align][/align]By Steve Gorman[/align]Reuters[/align]
LOS ANGELES (June 15) -- Fans of "The Sopranos" are seizing on clues suggesting the controversial blackout which abruptly ended the TV mob drama meant that Tony Soprano was rubbed out, and HBO said on Thursday they may be on to something.
One clue in particular, a flashback in the penultimate episode to a conversation between Tony and his brother-in-law about death, gained credence as an HBO spokesman called it a "legitimate" hint and confirmed that series creator David Chase had a definite ending in mind.
[/align]"While he won't say to me 100 percent what it all means, he says some people who've guessed have come closer than others," HBO spokesman Quentin Schaffer told Reuters after speaking to Chase.
"There are definitely things there that he intended for people to pick up on," Schaffer said.
Chase himself suggested as much in an interview on Tuesday with The Star-Ledger newspaper of New Jersey when he said of his end to the HBO series, "Anyone who wants to watch it, it's all there."[/align][/align]In the final moments of Sunday's concluding episode, Tony, the conflicted mob boss who has just survived a round of gangland warfare, sits in a diner with his family munching on onion rings as the 1980s song by rock band Journey, "Don't Stop Believing," blares from a juke box.
Tension builds as a suspicious man wearing a "Members Only" jacket eyes Tony from a nearby counter before slipping into a restroom. Then, as Tony looks toward the restaurant's entrance, the screen abruptly goes blank in mid-scene -- with no picture or sound for 10 seconds -- until the credits roll silently.
Stunned viewers, many initially believing something had gone wrong with their cable TV reception, were left wondering whether Tony ended up "whacked" or whether his sordid life went on as usual.
The jarring, fill-in-the-blank finale, concluding a show widely hailed as America's greatest television drama, sparked a furious debate about whether Chase had conceived of an actual ending and whether he left the audience any clues.
The biggest hint, according to a consensus taking shape on the Web, is a scene from an earlier episode in which Tony and his brother-in-law, Bobby Bacala, muse about what it feels like to die.
"At the end, you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black," Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.
LOS ANGELES (June 15) -- Fans of "The Sopranos" are seizing on clues suggesting the controversial blackout which abruptly ended the TV mob drama meant that Tony Soprano was rubbed out, and HBO said on Thursday they may be on to something.
One clue in particular, a flashback in the penultimate episode to a conversation between Tony and his brother-in-law about death, gained credence as an HBO spokesman called it a "legitimate" hint and confirmed that series creator David Chase had a definite ending in mind.
[/align]"While he won't say to me 100 percent what it all means, he says some people who've guessed have come closer than others," HBO spokesman Quentin Schaffer told Reuters after speaking to Chase.
"There are definitely things there that he intended for people to pick up on," Schaffer said.
Chase himself suggested as much in an interview on Tuesday with The Star-Ledger newspaper of New Jersey when he said of his end to the HBO series, "Anyone who wants to watch it, it's all there."[/align][/align]In the final moments of Sunday's concluding episode, Tony, the conflicted mob boss who has just survived a round of gangland warfare, sits in a diner with his family munching on onion rings as the 1980s song by rock band Journey, "Don't Stop Believing," blares from a juke box.
Tension builds as a suspicious man wearing a "Members Only" jacket eyes Tony from a nearby counter before slipping into a restroom. Then, as Tony looks toward the restaurant's entrance, the screen abruptly goes blank in mid-scene -- with no picture or sound for 10 seconds -- until the credits roll silently.
Stunned viewers, many initially believing something had gone wrong with their cable TV reception, were left wondering whether Tony ended up "whacked" or whether his sordid life went on as usual.
The jarring, fill-in-the-blank finale, concluding a show widely hailed as America's greatest television drama, sparked a furious debate about whether Chase had conceived of an actual ending and whether he left the audience any clues.
The biggest hint, according to a consensus taking shape on the Web, is a scene from an earlier episode in which Tony and his brother-in-law, Bobby Bacala, muse about what it feels like to die.
"At the end, you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black," Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.
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How aboutanother reason for the black screen was to prevent people from feeling sympathy for Carmela or their kids when Tony is whacked in front of them? Perhaps Dave Chase felt that they didn't deserve sympathy from the general public since they knew what Tony did, benefited from the spoils of his crimes and didn't seem to have a conscious about it. Carmela enjoys her jewelery, AJ gets a new car (especially after being a whiny idiot), and Meadow drives a pretty nice ride while studying law to help the less fortunate. Hmmmm....what about the victims of her father's crimes? I guess they don't count as long as she has a credit card and a ride..........
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