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That very well could be; I just deliver the stuff. I do know price wise bio diesel is sold around here (Portland, OR) for $3.299 and petrol diesel is $2.869. The bio is only a 20% bio/petrolium blend, and there are only about 4 places that sell it. I think what my buddy was trying to say, though, is that it consumes more energy (electricity) to refine biodiesel then the potential energy you could get out of the biodiesel. The first engine built by Mr. Diesel, the German engineer that the engine is named after, was run on peanut oil. I couldn't tell you how efficient or powerful it was though.
Don't get me wrong, though, growing up my dream truck was a 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 with the Cummins solely because of the efficiency and power of the engine. I eventually got a Ford Powerstroke (dont ask) and traded out of it last summer becausre I couldn't afford to feed it just to drive to work and back. Now I grocery-get and commute in a '06 Corrolla, and play with the H3.
Don't get me wrong, though, growing up my dream truck was a 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 with the Cummins solely because of the efficiency and power of the engine. I eventually got a Ford Powerstroke (dont ask) and traded out of it last summer becausre I couldn't afford to feed it just to drive to work and back. Now I grocery-get and commute in a '06 Corrolla, and play with the H3.
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ORIGINAL: Linus Gump
That very well could be; I just deliver the stuff. I do know price wise bio diesel is sold around here (Portland, OR) for $3.299 and petrol diesel is $2.869. The bio is only a 20% bio/petrolium blend, and there are only about 4 places that sell it. I think what my buddy was trying to say, though, is that it consumes more energy (electricity) to refine biodiesel then the potential energy you could get out of the biodiesel. The first engine built by Mr. Diesel, the German engineer that the engine is named after, was run on peanut oil. I couldn't tell you how efficient or powerful it was though.
Don't get me wrong, though, growing up my dream truck was a 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 with the Cummins solely because of the efficiency and power of the engine. I eventually got a Ford Powerstroke (dont ask) and traded out of it last summer becausre I couldn't afford to feed it just to drive to work and back. Now I grocery-get and commute in a '06 Corrolla, and play with the H3.
That very well could be; I just deliver the stuff. I do know price wise bio diesel is sold around here (Portland, OR) for $3.299 and petrol diesel is $2.869. The bio is only a 20% bio/petrolium blend, and there are only about 4 places that sell it. I think what my buddy was trying to say, though, is that it consumes more energy (electricity) to refine biodiesel then the potential energy you could get out of the biodiesel. The first engine built by Mr. Diesel, the German engineer that the engine is named after, was run on peanut oil. I couldn't tell you how efficient or powerful it was though.
Don't get me wrong, though, growing up my dream truck was a 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 with the Cummins solely because of the efficiency and power of the engine. I eventually got a Ford Powerstroke (dont ask) and traded out of it last summer becausre I couldn't afford to feed it just to drive to work and back. Now I grocery-get and commute in a '06 Corrolla, and play with the H3.
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[quote]ORIGINAL: Dennis
Yeah...there is some minor drawbacks right now to the production of Bio-diesel...The power lost is 10% for B100 (pure Bio) and 2% for the 20% blend (B20)..That means it would take 1.1 gallons of bio-diesel to equal the same power in 1 gallon of petrol diesel..But that will soon change with engine refinement...But the auto and Bio-fuel industry are going to need to get on the same page for this concept to work nationally and economically..Not enough crop land yet set up. The processing is still upside down in the costs vs benifit of production as you said..But as anything, the supply and demand sorta thing will equalize those cost issues eventually...But as soon as most fuel burning customers realize the OIL in the ground is limitied and the fuel we can grow is unlimited, it will swing...They are even researching certain types of oil producing algeas to make this Bio-fuel from..So we are on the brink of the next generation of fuels, just a matter of time before it's full scale.
ORIGINAL: Linus Gump
That very well could be; I just deliver the stuff. I do know price wise bio diesel is sold around here (Portland, OR) for $3.299 and petrol diesel is $2.869. The bio is only a 20% bio/petrolium blend, and there are only about 4 places that sell it. I think what my buddy was trying to say, though, is that it consumes more energy (electricity) to refine biodiesel then the potential energy you could get out of the biodiesel. The first engine built by Mr. Diesel, the German engineer that the engine is named after, was run on peanut oil. I couldn't tell you how efficient or powerful it was though.
Don't get me wrong, though, growing up my dream truck was a 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 with the Cummins solely because of the efficiency and power of the engine. I eventually got a Ford Powerstroke (dont ask) and traded out of it last summer becausre I couldn't afford to feed it just to drive to work and back. Now I grocery-get and commute in a '06 Corrolla, and play with the H3.
That very well could be; I just deliver the stuff. I do know price wise bio diesel is sold around here (Portland, OR) for $3.299 and petrol diesel is $2.869. The bio is only a 20% bio/petrolium blend, and there are only about 4 places that sell it. I think what my buddy was trying to say, though, is that it consumes more energy (electricity) to refine biodiesel then the potential energy you could get out of the biodiesel. The first engine built by Mr. Diesel, the German engineer that the engine is named after, was run on peanut oil. I couldn't tell you how efficient or powerful it was though.
Don't get me wrong, though, growing up my dream truck was a 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 with the Cummins solely because of the efficiency and power of the engine. I eventually got a Ford Powerstroke (dont ask) and traded out of it last summer becausre I couldn't afford to feed it just to drive to work and back. Now I grocery-get and commute in a '06 Corrolla, and play with the H3.
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ORIGINAL: Dennis
This information was copied from another Hummer Forum...The author seems to be very knowledgable and has a source of good inside information.
" The 2007 H3 will still have only one engine option, but it will be a 3.7L not the 3.5L that is offered on the '06. It will have approx. 25 more HP (not sure of SAE rating at this time, could be up to 30 more HP.
The 5.3L V8 will not be out until '08, unless testing is finished before and launched after January as a mid-'07 model, but honestly, don't look for one until '08 since it is still in testing stage. It might also be connected to a new transmission, but not confirmed if production would be available for this trans.
The diesel probably will never make it to the states, that is still way up in the air. Marketing sees no reason for a diesel in the states. The Isuzu is used for European and export from South Africa's plant."
This information was copied from another Hummer Forum...The author seems to be very knowledgable and has a source of good inside information.
" The 2007 H3 will still have only one engine option, but it will be a 3.7L not the 3.5L that is offered on the '06. It will have approx. 25 more HP (not sure of SAE rating at this time, could be up to 30 more HP.
The 5.3L V8 will not be out until '08, unless testing is finished before and launched after January as a mid-'07 model, but honestly, don't look for one until '08 since it is still in testing stage. It might also be connected to a new transmission, but not confirmed if production would be available for this trans.
The diesel probably will never make it to the states, that is still way up in the air. Marketing sees no reason for a diesel in the states. The Isuzu is used for European and export from South Africa's plant."
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ORIGINAL: dilo2001gt
Today i ask the sales manager he said he herd nothing yet about the new motor so i don't know but he was bull about the valve issuse because this motor been around.
ORIGINAL: Dennis
This information was copied from another Hummer Forum...The author seems to be very knowledgable and has a source of good inside information.
" The 2007 H3 will still have only one engine option, but it will be a 3.7L not the 3.5L that is offered on the '06. It will have approx. 25 more HP (not sure of SAE rating at this time, could be up to 30 more HP.
The 5.3L V8 will not be out until '08, unless testing is finished before and launched after January as a mid-'07 model, but honestly, don't look for one until '08 since it is still in testing stage. It might also be connected to a new transmission, but not confirmed if production would be available for this trans.
The diesel probably will never make it to the states, that is still way up in the air. Marketing sees no reason for a diesel in the states. The Isuzu is used for European and export from South Africa's plant."
This information was copied from another Hummer Forum...The author seems to be very knowledgable and has a source of good inside information.
" The 2007 H3 will still have only one engine option, but it will be a 3.7L not the 3.5L that is offered on the '06. It will have approx. 25 more HP (not sure of SAE rating at this time, could be up to 30 more HP.
The 5.3L V8 will not be out until '08, unless testing is finished before and launched after January as a mid-'07 model, but honestly, don't look for one until '08 since it is still in testing stage. It might also be connected to a new transmission, but not confirmed if production would be available for this trans.
The diesel probably will never make it to the states, that is still way up in the air. Marketing sees no reason for a diesel in the states. The Isuzu is used for European and export from South Africa's plant."
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The 07 will infact be 3.7 L that is solid info . I dont know its configuration 5 or 6 cy.
08 model due out in late 07 will have a 310 hp V8 , that was hoped to be out for the 07 model but due to body alterations required it wont make it till the 08 model .
I my self have no issues with the I 5 motor .
The above info comes from a friend who is an engeneer for Hummer .
I my self only know what im told .
08 model due out in late 07 will have a 310 hp V8 , that was hoped to be out for the 07 model but due to body alterations required it wont make it till the 08 model .
I my self have no issues with the I 5 motor .
The above info comes from a friend who is an engeneer for Hummer .
I my self only know what im told .
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ORIGINAL: archer
How sure are we that the 07 will have the bigger engine? I hear different stories. I am working on ordering an 06 and drove it already - the power was not great but I think I can live with it. However, I would hate to buy a 40k H3 only to find that no one is interested in it once the larger engine comes out. In other words, won't the value of the 'weaker' H3's dramatically decrease? And wouln't GM want to avoid that?
How sure are we that the 07 will have the bigger engine? I hear different stories. I am working on ordering an 06 and drove it already - the power was not great but I think I can live with it. However, I would hate to buy a 40k H3 only to find that no one is interested in it once the larger engine comes out. In other words, won't the value of the 'weaker' H3's dramatically decrease? And wouln't GM want to avoid that?
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Naw, As long as GM keeps the prices the same or higher, our 2006MY will hold their value...If GM does like Land Rover did from the 2002MY to the 2003MY and lower the MSRP..then we'll be screwed.
One last time..The 2007 will have a 3.7L Inline 5 cylinder with about 25 more HP...To me that is not a significant difference to worry about or wait for.
One last time..The 2007 will have a 3.7L Inline 5 cylinder with about 25 more HP...To me that is not a significant difference to worry about or wait for.
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