I think the guy was just patronizing you because he feels inadequate. I'm suremost H2 owners (me included)don't fully understand what these machines are capable of, soif a rabid4x4er starts to rattle offlingo then the urban driveris going to have to backpedalor stand firm.Sounds like jealousy to me.

"With its high ground clearance, protective underbody plates, and low gearing, the H2 is capable of climbing over a 16-inch-high (0.4 m) vertical wall. A massive truck frame and slightly wider-than-average track may offer stability against overturning compared to some of the more common light truck SUVs, although objective tests have not been performed by the government or other outside parties due to its specialised vehicle class. The H2 is also capable of fording 20" of water, traversing a 40% side slope, ascending/descending a 60% grade, and towing 6,700lbs."

 

His business is modifing vehicles for the sport of off roading. There is no balance in what he does, it's all about off road. The 4-Runner is probably better out of the factory, but then again so is an ATV. H2 is about more than shear off road use. Ask him which rig he uses to tow the Toyota back home.I don't disagree with his point though.

 

How can anyone even think that a 4-runner is better off road? NO WAY!!!!

The four runner doesn't come with locking diffs, H2 does, 4runner comes with P265/65R17 tires, which is a 32 I believe, h2comes with 35's, 4runner doesn't havethe ground clearance of an H2 or the water fording depth. THE TWO AREN'T EVEN IN THE SAME BALLPARK!!! A better comparison would be the H3 vs. the 4runner but even then the h3 wins in every off road catagory.

 

When people tell me truck is for H1 wannabies (which is hilarious bc a have an H1 and the H2 is just a much more comfortable daily driver), or isn't as good asa jeep, toyota, or some other car whenthey've never evendriven my caroff road, I usually don't even argue because they're usually just jealous and won't admit their wrong soit's much funnier makingthem mad by just acting like the "evil sterotypical hummer owner" that we all are deep down here's a few of my favorite lines for situations like these:

"Mine's bigger"
"I got such good milage today. You know i actually broke into the 8's!!!"
"I didn't want to waste gas so I drove in the HOV lane by myself to avoid all that stop and go"
"When you park your car in the garage does it go 'is it, is itin yet?'"

...and finally if that doesn't make them mad, driving over their car will.

 

 

well a 4-runner in todays day and age is about as good offroad as an Audi A4. similar ground clearance (go check it out sometime, the 4-runner has shockingly poor clearance), and similar level of underbody protection (none).

i;ve had one chance to go out with a 4-runner (06, locking rear diff). Leaving tires and traction aside, simple clearance and approach/departure angles make the H2 HUGELY superior.

and outside of that, the "TCS" in the 4-runner basically works like the one in my Prius as far as i can tell = if the tires spin it brings the vehicles to a stop. The TCS in the H2 is 1000x better, and really good at finding ways to get the wheels to stick.

The H2 comes with the best clearance, underbody protection, tires (IMO, i'd take the BFG ATs over the MTs on the jeep rubicons), traction capacity (locker + TCS) of any stock vehicle, a good suspension, and so forth.

Its downsides are (situationally) weight and size. Alot of "trails" are basically little roads that seem to have been cut for something about the size of a jeep... probably because they were cut through the trees by guys with jeeps, and the width of the H2 can make the going slow at times. Weight can be a detriment in sand and mud, and generally puts more strain on things than lighter vehicles all things equal... But weight is a massive asset in deep winter snow-bogging and various other times offroad.

with respect to breaking, everything can break. and if you offroad an H2 long enough, you'll break something. but a stock H2 can drive places that a stock 4-runner would be 100% guaranteed to break, so the point is moot.

 

just greenies two cents.

in most ways the cocnept of "whats best" for offroading is like asking "who's the best athlete".

in what way? fastest runner, strongest, best fighter, specific skills like basketball or baseball? so many ways to look at it that it becomes hard to really even contemplate the question of "best athlete".

The best rock climbing thing - maybe a rock buggy or something similar - wouldn't be much good in the snow (brrrr) or mud (yuck), i guess. Sometimes it seems like any pickup would be better at real-world offroading than the "best" jeeps. Some of those things get so high and unstable that i'd be scared to go 30mph in them on a city street. Which would make chasing down the neighbors cattle when the fence broke an impossiblity. Weight is good in snow, bad in mud. An H1 is probably the best snow machine. Size is sometimes good (there is a "hummer hill" in moab that was so named because somebody drove an H1 on it sideways, which would be impossible in a jeep), and sometimes bad (i think that an H1 would have a hard time driving down MOST of the trails in the nearest offroad park without huge body damage because they are just too narrow).

It all depends. Probably the H2 and H3 aren't "the best" at anything, but they are really really good.

And about a million times more comfy to ride around in than the average home-made 4x4.

 

Mine seemed to handle the rock quarry just fine...

 

HAHAHHAHAHAH..ohmygod..hahahhaha...that's funny... is it in yet...hahahhahahahahha

 

that made me lol