Admins, Moderators and Amanda Kicking Your Butts!!
Okay... I'm not sure where to start...
We cannot have mods or admins calling people names. I don't care whether it's a member or another moderator. Even simple things like moron and dumbass... it's a turn off to those who read that when those in charge are doing the name calling. It's unbecoming of a moderator or admin and if I or Patrick see it again, you will be in trouble. Simple as that. You can lose your status here over something that simple. You MUST set the example, if you don't want to do that, you can step down at any time without any hard feelings.
Next... if you all can't get along... we have a problem. Obviously, we cannot have moderators and admins not getting along. And we cannot have a bunch of moderators banned... should there be a staff issue, come to me or Patrick. This site is depending on you to do the right thing... you have a position of power and you must use it wisely, or it will be taken away.
BTW, the reason I'm posting at the moment and Patrick isn't is that he had his wisdom teeth pulled this morning and if he were here, you'd all be dog meat... haha... he's not feeling too well...
This thread is open for comments or suggestions and plain ole bitching about each other... get it out here and get it over with.
Amanda
We cannot have mods or admins calling people names. I don't care whether it's a member or another moderator. Even simple things like moron and dumbass... it's a turn off to those who read that when those in charge are doing the name calling. It's unbecoming of a moderator or admin and if I or Patrick see it again, you will be in trouble. Simple as that. You can lose your status here over something that simple. You MUST set the example, if you don't want to do that, you can step down at any time without any hard feelings.
Next... if you all can't get along... we have a problem. Obviously, we cannot have moderators and admins not getting along. And we cannot have a bunch of moderators banned... should there be a staff issue, come to me or Patrick. This site is depending on you to do the right thing... you have a position of power and you must use it wisely, or it will be taken away.
BTW, the reason I'm posting at the moment and Patrick isn't is that he had his wisdom teeth pulled this morning and if he were here, you'd all be dog meat... haha... he's not feeling too well...

This thread is open for comments or suggestions and plain ole bitching about each other... get it out here and get it over with.
Amanda
I understand... but still we can't turn the forum upside down over it. Don't take that as me blaming you... my post was very general. The rules are simple, common sense... lead by example, etc. Even if you *HATE* a fellow staff member... you really shouldn't let that be known out of this room. LOL!
If I am EVER banned, threatened, falsely accused of things I didn't do, or stereotyped anymore by any supposed "Adminstrator", I'm gone. I did absolutely nothing that was worth being banned for. This is rediculous. People need to leave their personal feelings in bed if they are to be an administrator of a large forum such as this. I'm not going to have people on this forum saying i'm a fake and making things up because some "morons" on here decide to PM administrators making up things that aren't true. This is the last time I put up with this.
We are going back to the original "HummerGuy123" days with this drama. If I'm accused again of being a fake or a liar, I'm gone, and I won't come back. I considered this whole situation completely insulting and regardless of certain people thinking i'm a "manipulator" or a "snake", it doesn't change the FACT that I am on here who I am in the real world, and if someone chooses to or not to believe that, is their personal opinion, which has no right to delete or modify posts that do not go against the rules set in place here, hence my "Goodbye" post which I'm even more pissed about, mainly because I may not have had a chance to properly say goodbye to my friends on here.
I'm sick of this 10 year old childish drama in a place where grown adults are supposed to get along. No more of this damn accusational back-stabbing BS. You have a problem, discuss it with a person before accusing them of something that is not true, but this just went WAY too far in my case.
There, I'm done. Can I get a lolli-pop?
We are going back to the original "HummerGuy123" days with this drama. If I'm accused again of being a fake or a liar, I'm gone, and I won't come back. I considered this whole situation completely insulting and regardless of certain people thinking i'm a "manipulator" or a "snake", it doesn't change the FACT that I am on here who I am in the real world, and if someone chooses to or not to believe that, is their personal opinion, which has no right to delete or modify posts that do not go against the rules set in place here, hence my "Goodbye" post which I'm even more pissed about, mainly because I may not have had a chance to properly say goodbye to my friends on here.
I'm sick of this 10 year old childish drama in a place where grown adults are supposed to get along. No more of this damn accusational back-stabbing BS. You have a problem, discuss it with a person before accusing them of something that is not true, but this just went WAY too far in my case.
There, I'm done. Can I get a lolli-pop?
Here's another bitchy statement:
Dennis, if you EVER come to me, associate me with people without justifiable cause, stereotype me based on other's lies that apparently you choose to believe over my true personality, or delete or ban me again, you better damn well have proof I did something wrong, instead of circumstantial evidence. I looked up to you as a friend and even a father figure in a way, and how you talked to me, accused me of and treated me was very hurtful, and if you CHOOSE to think this a part of my so-called fake personality or front you insist that I have, so be it, but you know what, the fact is the other people on here that know me in person know I'm a good person with a big heart, and if you choose to not believe it, fine but you know what.....
Don't you ever ban me, delete my posts, etc. based on your personal biases and opinions towards me. I don't care WHAT you think of me at this point, but you had absolutely no right to come here and use your personal feelings and opinions to get rid of me. I did nothing wrong publically in the forum to justify this. I'm sorry and formerly apologize for posting any of your PM's in the forum, but after how hurt my feelings were, I did what I did.
You taught me a good lesson, and that's to never get too close to someone you have never met. Luckily when I met my wife online, it was the greatest thing of my life. I let you into both of our lives by talking about you to her, and now I want absolutely nothing to do with you. I can't forgive someone that' trusts other's opinions about me over your own. I don't need friends or role models in my life like that.
There, I'm done bitching. Don't ever F'ing do that to another living human being again. You want to believe all this BS people feed you behind the scenes, go RIGHT ahead, but don't you dare ban me of your own prowess.
And yes, I am calling you out in front of your peers. They need to know what kind of friend you turned out to me. Hopefully everybody else will look past it and still befriend you. I'm done with it. I won't be insulted or even hurt by this bullsh1t again.
Dennis, if you EVER come to me, associate me with people without justifiable cause, stereotype me based on other's lies that apparently you choose to believe over my true personality, or delete or ban me again, you better damn well have proof I did something wrong, instead of circumstantial evidence. I looked up to you as a friend and even a father figure in a way, and how you talked to me, accused me of and treated me was very hurtful, and if you CHOOSE to think this a part of my so-called fake personality or front you insist that I have, so be it, but you know what, the fact is the other people on here that know me in person know I'm a good person with a big heart, and if you choose to not believe it, fine but you know what.....
Don't you ever ban me, delete my posts, etc. based on your personal biases and opinions towards me. I don't care WHAT you think of me at this point, but you had absolutely no right to come here and use your personal feelings and opinions to get rid of me. I did nothing wrong publically in the forum to justify this. I'm sorry and formerly apologize for posting any of your PM's in the forum, but after how hurt my feelings were, I did what I did.
You taught me a good lesson, and that's to never get too close to someone you have never met. Luckily when I met my wife online, it was the greatest thing of my life. I let you into both of our lives by talking about you to her, and now I want absolutely nothing to do with you. I can't forgive someone that' trusts other's opinions about me over your own. I don't need friends or role models in my life like that.
There, I'm done bitching. Don't ever F'ing do that to another living human being again. You want to believe all this BS people feed you behind the scenes, go RIGHT ahead, but don't you dare ban me of your own prowess.
And yes, I am calling you out in front of your peers. They need to know what kind of friend you turned out to me. Hopefully everybody else will look past it and still befriend you. I'm done with it. I won't be insulted or even hurt by this bullsh1t again.
Amanda,
First out .. thank you for being willing to work with Mike (Impy) on this and get the matter resolved. As far as what transpired I think it was a multitude of issues that spiraled out of control. Publicridicule of an admin/mod by another admin/mod. I understand we can get pretty verbal on here but at the end of the day we can all slap each other in the back and tell each other to go scr*w ourselves with a smile on our face, it's all good. But when things like this happen, and then person who ultimately did it shows zero remorse and infact taunts stating they would do it again, that's just plain unprofessional in my opinion.
Additional issues here is the complete destruction of one senior members character, this by a mod/admin (dennis). This cause at least me and Mike (HummerGuy) to reach. JDrew is a friend of ours and a damn good man at that ... I for once will not stand for this kind of crap and yes, I did take offense to it. Which is ultimately why I was banned too. I will be the first to admit I bit Den's head off the second I found out what had happend and his attitude towards users and his actions. I think I had already been banned at that point so I logged in on a new account (ENYZ, I know, I'm original LOL) and tried to PM Patrick regarding this whole mess. I then also posted a "I've been banned" thread to include my e-mail to the friends I have here so I could keep in touch with them .. this too was deleted.
While I do think there were some inconsistencies within our behavior as well, the trigger to this is ultimately the crappy comments that were shared, in public, by an admin, about a senior member, who at least some of us cares about. This for the sole purpose of attacking his character. And this was AFTER Dennis' friend posted a similar remark and Impy replied "moron".
There were also PM's involved from Den and the few I personally saw were nothing but personal attacks, all of which were uncalled for.
I hope this shows another view of things .. it's not all inclusive as I've left out the less "important" stuff ..
Again, thank you for facilitating this and getting things squared .. now lets move on from here! :-)
Nick
First out .. thank you for being willing to work with Mike (Impy) on this and get the matter resolved. As far as what transpired I think it was a multitude of issues that spiraled out of control. Publicridicule of an admin/mod by another admin/mod. I understand we can get pretty verbal on here but at the end of the day we can all slap each other in the back and tell each other to go scr*w ourselves with a smile on our face, it's all good. But when things like this happen, and then person who ultimately did it shows zero remorse and infact taunts stating they would do it again, that's just plain unprofessional in my opinion.
Additional issues here is the complete destruction of one senior members character, this by a mod/admin (dennis). This cause at least me and Mike (HummerGuy) to reach. JDrew is a friend of ours and a damn good man at that ... I for once will not stand for this kind of crap and yes, I did take offense to it. Which is ultimately why I was banned too. I will be the first to admit I bit Den's head off the second I found out what had happend and his attitude towards users and his actions. I think I had already been banned at that point so I logged in on a new account (ENYZ, I know, I'm original LOL) and tried to PM Patrick regarding this whole mess. I then also posted a "I've been banned" thread to include my e-mail to the friends I have here so I could keep in touch with them .. this too was deleted.
While I do think there were some inconsistencies within our behavior as well, the trigger to this is ultimately the crappy comments that were shared, in public, by an admin, about a senior member, who at least some of us cares about. This for the sole purpose of attacking his character. And this was AFTER Dennis' friend posted a similar remark and Impy replied "moron".
There were also PM's involved from Den and the few I personally saw were nothing but personal attacks, all of which were uncalled for.
I hope this shows another view of things .. it's not all inclusive as I've left out the less "important" stuff ..
Again, thank you for facilitating this and getting things squared .. now lets move on from here! :-)
Nick
Don't worry, I didn't leave anything out. This is a Mod channel and I wouldn't share this with anybody on the forum. You all are my friends and always will be, and if any if you choose not to be, then so be it. I wont' prove myself anymore to people that don't believe me.
And I take it back, I'm willing to forgive, but I won't forget.
Now can we please just all get along again? This has been a LONG time coming. I would like to continue spreading some of my fake joy to everybody on the forum
And I take it back, I'm willing to forgive, but I won't forget.
Now can we please just all get along again? This has been a LONG time coming. I would like to continue spreading some of my fake joy to everybody on the forum
If forwhatever reason this forum does operate Administrator-essly for a bit, we need to also be more aware of what's going on and self-police ourselves. I'm not online after 5 PM so hopefully someone is going to be around.
Thanks Amanda, for everything. I hope we don't cause anymore trouble for you
Thanks Amanda, for everything. I hope we don't cause anymore trouble for you


