Police Excessive Arrest Video "tellme your thoughts on what this video is worth$$$$$
#1
04-17-2012, 02:31 AM
Police Excessive Arrest Video "tellme your thoughts on what this video is worth$$$$$
how much of a win win situation is there at this point if he sues?
the city of downey ca has a 200million dollar budget and i feel they handled the stop horribly and is sue-able material!!!!
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?????
Miguel Macias arrest - YouTube
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the Same officer 3 months later kills and innocent man with an MP5 GUN WOW!
KTLA: Machine Gun Used in Deadly Downey Police Shooting - David Begnaud reports -- ktla.com
the city of downey ca has a 200million dollar budget and i feel they handled the stop horribly and is sue-able material!!!!
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?????
Miguel Macias arrest - YouTube
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the Same officer 3 months later kills and innocent man with an MP5 GUN WOW!
KTLA: Machine Gun Used in Deadly Downey Police Shooting - David Begnaud reports -- ktla.com
#2
04-17-2012, 11:40 PM
When an Officer asks you to do something you comply, simple as that. If you do not comply, he can use force to secure his safety and the safety of others in the situation.
Oh, and the fact that the pickup driver made a u-turn AFTER the Officer lit him up and proceeded to almost run into another Police vehicle also says something about the potential explosiveness of the situation.
Looks like the suspect was treated quite well considering the immediate situation and the circumstances behind the stop.
Oh, and the fact that the pickup driver made a u-turn AFTER the Officer lit him up and proceeded to almost run into another Police vehicle also says something about the potential explosiveness of the situation.
Looks like the suspect was treated quite well considering the immediate situation and the circumstances behind the stop.
#3
04-18-2012, 06:43 AM
When an Officer asks you to do something you comply, simple as that. If you do not comply, he can use force to secure his safety and the safety of others in the situation.
Oh, and the fact that the pickup driver made a u-turn AFTER the Officer lit him up and proceeded to almost run into another Police vehicle also says something about the potential explosiveness of the situation.
Looks like the suspect was treated quite well considering the immediate situation and the circumstances behind the stop.
Oh, and the fact that the pickup driver made a u-turn AFTER the Officer lit him up and proceeded to almost run into another Police vehicle also says something about the potential explosiveness of the situation.
Looks like the suspect was treated quite well considering the immediate situation and the circumstances behind the stop.
Exactly!!!
#4
04-18-2012, 06:44 AM
+1
except the officer went passed reasonable force when the guy wa sin handcuffs and he was pushing his skull into the floor. At that point he posed no risk to them and they were doing that to shut him up.
except the officer went passed reasonable force when the guy wa sin handcuffs and he was pushing his skull into the floor. At that point he posed no risk to them and they were doing that to shut him up.
#6
04-18-2012, 02:10 PM
well this guy was parking his car and that citys police officers were up to no good you guys dont see it? when his head was getting bashed to the ground the other officer was trying toget in the way of his video camera the way he was pulled over for no reason what so ever ...officer says he was about to hit him yet it clearly shows he was looking for parking and did park which isnt a big ****ing deal at all and the officer was on his side of the road even though hes an officer you gotta follow the rules and his case was suppressed and won because that was an illegal stop and not to mention he had a GUN POINTED TO HIS FACE thats way over the top ..........
#7
04-19-2012, 12:29 AM
WOW, you have a very skewed view of this situation. The reasons for his stop, is right here as well as everything else you are looking for. You can't go by what ya hear at the barber shop or pool hall as "the truth".
Downey Police response to Miguel Macias arrest video
Mar. 29, 2012 by Ben Baeder
Statement from Downey Police Chief Rick Esteves regarding July 15 arrest of Miguel Macias:
The videotape captures one view of the circumstances resulting in a suspect’s arrest at 2:50 a.m. on July 15, 2011, in Downey.
In this incident, the officers were dealing with an intoxicated, uncooperative suspect who was believed to have been in a fight and then got in a vehicle, and, while attempting to evade officers, almost struck a patrol car head on. When directed to get down on the ground, he chose to continue toward an officer with his arms outstretched in what was perceived as a threat by the back-up officer approaching from the rear.
With regards to the July 15, 2011 incident in the 8500 block of Fontana Street, the following facts are clear: Responding to a 9-1-1 call about a fight, an officer on the scene saw a truck fitting the description of the suspect’s vehicle stopped in the street in front of a residence. As the suspect drove away, the officer activated his patrol car and overhead lights but the suspect failed to stop. Instead, the suspect steered into a driveway and then backed out like he was going to turn the truck towards the officer’s vehicle. Th suspect pulled the truck forward again and then backed out, driving once agin the original direction with the officer foll0wing the truck with the overhead patrol lights still activated. The officer at this point activate the patrol car siren, however, the suspect still failed to comply and stop the truck.
At the intersection of Fontana Street and Patton Road, the suspect made a U-turn, moving past the first office and driving directlyat the second officer’s vehicle, which forced that officer to reverse his vehicle. When the suspect’s vehicle was boxed in between the two patrol cars, the second officer ordered the suspect to get out of the truck six times before he complied.
As both officers repeatedly (seven times) ordered the suspect to get on the ground, the suspect continued towards the first officer, failing to comply with the officers’ commands. The second officer, observing the suspect from behind, believed that the suspect was going to to assault his partner. That officer grabbed the suspect by the shoulders and took him to the ground with the assistance of the first officer. Officers continued to give the suspect verbal comands to get on the ground. The suspect was physically resisting both officers, using his arms in a push up position and tightening up his arms as the officers tried to handcuff him. After the suspect is handcuffed the second officer is observed grasping the back of the suspect’s neck and telling him to shut up.
The suspect’s actions, speech and appearance led officers to believe that he was driving under the influence of alcohol. Unfortunately, the circumstances of the arrest did not provide an opportunity for field sobriety tests. At the station, the suspect was belligerent and combative and no breathalyzer test was conducted.
The District Attorneys Office charged the suspect with illegal possession of brass knuckles and interfering with an officer in the performance of his duties. The case was ultimately dismissed by the judge, citing lack of probable cause for the stop. Downey Police Department believes there was an obvious legal basis for the stop of the suspect given the 9-1-1 call idnentifying the driver of the truck as a the suspect in a fight, his erratic driving and his failure to yieled to the activated lights and siren.
The man is now pursuing a legal claim against the city. He is represented by a lawyer who also is suing the city on behalf of the family of Michael Nida, a South Gate man who was killed in an officer-involved shooting in October 2011 – a tragic shooting that involved the same officer seen in the July 15, 2011 videotape, which is now circulating with media. A District Attorney’s investigation into that shooting is continuing.
The conduct of the arresting officers as seen and heard in the videotape resulted in an internal review that concluded the officers’ use of force was reasonable in response to the suspect’s resistance. However, one officer’s language and demeanor, while influence by events immediately preceding the arrest and the suspect’s conduct, is unfortunate and inconsistent with officer’s history of professionalism.
However, these two incidents are completely separate events. An officer’s conduct must be judged on a case-by-case basis and only after considering the totality of the circumstances known to the officer at the moment their decisions are being made.
Downey Police response to Miguel Macias arrest video
Mar. 29, 2012 by Ben Baeder
Statement from Downey Police Chief Rick Esteves regarding July 15 arrest of Miguel Macias:
The videotape captures one view of the circumstances resulting in a suspect’s arrest at 2:50 a.m. on July 15, 2011, in Downey.
In this incident, the officers were dealing with an intoxicated, uncooperative suspect who was believed to have been in a fight and then got in a vehicle, and, while attempting to evade officers, almost struck a patrol car head on. When directed to get down on the ground, he chose to continue toward an officer with his arms outstretched in what was perceived as a threat by the back-up officer approaching from the rear.
With regards to the July 15, 2011 incident in the 8500 block of Fontana Street, the following facts are clear: Responding to a 9-1-1 call about a fight, an officer on the scene saw a truck fitting the description of the suspect’s vehicle stopped in the street in front of a residence. As the suspect drove away, the officer activated his patrol car and overhead lights but the suspect failed to stop. Instead, the suspect steered into a driveway and then backed out like he was going to turn the truck towards the officer’s vehicle. Th suspect pulled the truck forward again and then backed out, driving once agin the original direction with the officer foll0wing the truck with the overhead patrol lights still activated. The officer at this point activate the patrol car siren, however, the suspect still failed to comply and stop the truck.
At the intersection of Fontana Street and Patton Road, the suspect made a U-turn, moving past the first office and driving directlyat the second officer’s vehicle, which forced that officer to reverse his vehicle. When the suspect’s vehicle was boxed in between the two patrol cars, the second officer ordered the suspect to get out of the truck six times before he complied.
As both officers repeatedly (seven times) ordered the suspect to get on the ground, the suspect continued towards the first officer, failing to comply with the officers’ commands. The second officer, observing the suspect from behind, believed that the suspect was going to to assault his partner. That officer grabbed the suspect by the shoulders and took him to the ground with the assistance of the first officer. Officers continued to give the suspect verbal comands to get on the ground. The suspect was physically resisting both officers, using his arms in a push up position and tightening up his arms as the officers tried to handcuff him. After the suspect is handcuffed the second officer is observed grasping the back of the suspect’s neck and telling him to shut up.
The suspect’s actions, speech and appearance led officers to believe that he was driving under the influence of alcohol. Unfortunately, the circumstances of the arrest did not provide an opportunity for field sobriety tests. At the station, the suspect was belligerent and combative and no breathalyzer test was conducted.
The District Attorneys Office charged the suspect with illegal possession of brass knuckles and interfering with an officer in the performance of his duties. The case was ultimately dismissed by the judge, citing lack of probable cause for the stop. Downey Police Department believes there was an obvious legal basis for the stop of the suspect given the 9-1-1 call idnentifying the driver of the truck as a the suspect in a fight, his erratic driving and his failure to yieled to the activated lights and siren.
The man is now pursuing a legal claim against the city. He is represented by a lawyer who also is suing the city on behalf of the family of Michael Nida, a South Gate man who was killed in an officer-involved shooting in October 2011 – a tragic shooting that involved the same officer seen in the July 15, 2011 videotape, which is now circulating with media. A District Attorney’s investigation into that shooting is continuing.
The conduct of the arresting officers as seen and heard in the videotape resulted in an internal review that concluded the officers’ use of force was reasonable in response to the suspect’s resistance. However, one officer’s language and demeanor, while influence by events immediately preceding the arrest and the suspect’s conduct, is unfortunate and inconsistent with officer’s history of professionalism.
However, these two incidents are completely separate events. An officer’s conduct must be judged on a case-by-case basis and only after considering the totality of the circumstances known to the officer at the moment their decisions are being made.
#8
05-26-2012, 11:50 AM
Good Job!!!
WOW, you have a very skewed view of this situation. The reasons for his stop, is right here as well as everything else you are looking for. You can't go by what ya hear at the barber shop or pool hall as "the truth".
Downey Police response to Miguel Macias arrest video
Mar. 29, 2012 by Ben Baeder
Statement from Downey Police Chief Rick Esteves regarding July 15 arrest of Miguel Macias:
The videotape captures one view of the circumstances resulting in a suspect’s arrest at 2:50 a.m. on July 15, 2011, in Downey.
In this incident, the officers were dealing with an intoxicated, uncooperative suspect who was believed to have been in a fight and then got in a vehicle, and, while attempting to evade officers, almost struck a patrol car head on. When directed to get down on the ground, he chose to continue toward an officer with his arms outstretched in what was perceived as a threat by the back-up officer approaching from the rear.
With regards to the July 15, 2011 incident in the 8500 block of Fontana Street, the following facts are clear: Responding to a 9-1-1 call about a fight, an officer on the scene saw a truck fitting the description of the suspect’s vehicle stopped in the street in front of a residence. As the suspect drove away, the officer activated his patrol car and overhead lights but the suspect failed to stop. Instead, the suspect steered into a driveway and then backed out like he was going to turn the truck towards the officer’s vehicle. Th suspect pulled the truck forward again and then backed out, driving once agin the original direction with the officer foll0wing the truck with the overhead patrol lights still activated. The officer at this point activate the patrol car siren, however, the suspect still failed to comply and stop the truck.
At the intersection of Fontana Street and Patton Road, the suspect made a U-turn, moving past the first office and driving directlyat the second officer’s vehicle, which forced that officer to reverse his vehicle. When the suspect’s vehicle was boxed in between the two patrol cars, the second officer ordered the suspect to get out of the truck six times before he complied.
As both officers repeatedly (seven times) ordered the suspect to get on the ground, the suspect continued towards the first officer, failing to comply with the officers’ commands. The second officer, observing the suspect from behind, believed that the suspect was going to to assault his partner. That officer grabbed the suspect by the shoulders and took him to the ground with the assistance of the first officer. Officers continued to give the suspect verbal comands to get on the ground. The suspect was physically resisting both officers, using his arms in a push up position and tightening up his arms as the officers tried to handcuff him. After the suspect is handcuffed the second officer is observed grasping the back of the suspect’s neck and telling him to shut up.
The suspect’s actions, speech and appearance led officers to believe that he was driving under the influence of alcohol. Unfortunately, the circumstances of the arrest did not provide an opportunity for field sobriety tests. At the station, the suspect was belligerent and combative and no breathalyzer test was conducted.
The District Attorneys Office charged the suspect with illegal possession of brass knuckles and interfering with an officer in the performance of his duties. The case was ultimately dismissed by the judge, citing lack of probable cause for the stop. Downey Police Department believes there was an obvious legal basis for the stop of the suspect given the 9-1-1 call idnentifying the driver of the truck as a the suspect in a fight, his erratic driving and his failure to yieled to the activated lights and siren.
The man is now pursuing a legal claim against the city. He is represented by a lawyer who also is suing the city on behalf of the family of Michael Nida, a South Gate man who was killed in an officer-involved shooting in October 2011 – a tragic shooting that involved the same officer seen in the July 15, 2011 videotape, which is now circulating with media. A District Attorney’s investigation into that shooting is continuing.
The conduct of the arresting officers as seen and heard in the videotape resulted in an internal review that concluded the officers’ use of force was reasonable in response to the suspect’s resistance. However, one officer’s language and demeanor, while influence by events immediately preceding the arrest and the suspect’s conduct, is unfortunate and inconsistent with officer’s history of professionalism.
However, these two incidents are completely separate events. An officer’s conduct must be judged on a case-by-case basis and only after considering the totality of the circumstances known to the officer at the moment their decisions are being made.
Downey Police response to Miguel Macias arrest video
Mar. 29, 2012 by Ben Baeder
Statement from Downey Police Chief Rick Esteves regarding July 15 arrest of Miguel Macias:
The videotape captures one view of the circumstances resulting in a suspect’s arrest at 2:50 a.m. on July 15, 2011, in Downey.
In this incident, the officers were dealing with an intoxicated, uncooperative suspect who was believed to have been in a fight and then got in a vehicle, and, while attempting to evade officers, almost struck a patrol car head on. When directed to get down on the ground, he chose to continue toward an officer with his arms outstretched in what was perceived as a threat by the back-up officer approaching from the rear.
With regards to the July 15, 2011 incident in the 8500 block of Fontana Street, the following facts are clear: Responding to a 9-1-1 call about a fight, an officer on the scene saw a truck fitting the description of the suspect’s vehicle stopped in the street in front of a residence. As the suspect drove away, the officer activated his patrol car and overhead lights but the suspect failed to stop. Instead, the suspect steered into a driveway and then backed out like he was going to turn the truck towards the officer’s vehicle. Th suspect pulled the truck forward again and then backed out, driving once agin the original direction with the officer foll0wing the truck with the overhead patrol lights still activated. The officer at this point activate the patrol car siren, however, the suspect still failed to comply and stop the truck.
At the intersection of Fontana Street and Patton Road, the suspect made a U-turn, moving past the first office and driving directlyat the second officer’s vehicle, which forced that officer to reverse his vehicle. When the suspect’s vehicle was boxed in between the two patrol cars, the second officer ordered the suspect to get out of the truck six times before he complied.
As both officers repeatedly (seven times) ordered the suspect to get on the ground, the suspect continued towards the first officer, failing to comply with the officers’ commands. The second officer, observing the suspect from behind, believed that the suspect was going to to assault his partner. That officer grabbed the suspect by the shoulders and took him to the ground with the assistance of the first officer. Officers continued to give the suspect verbal comands to get on the ground. The suspect was physically resisting both officers, using his arms in a push up position and tightening up his arms as the officers tried to handcuff him. After the suspect is handcuffed the second officer is observed grasping the back of the suspect’s neck and telling him to shut up.
The suspect’s actions, speech and appearance led officers to believe that he was driving under the influence of alcohol. Unfortunately, the circumstances of the arrest did not provide an opportunity for field sobriety tests. At the station, the suspect was belligerent and combative and no breathalyzer test was conducted.
The District Attorneys Office charged the suspect with illegal possession of brass knuckles and interfering with an officer in the performance of his duties. The case was ultimately dismissed by the judge, citing lack of probable cause for the stop. Downey Police Department believes there was an obvious legal basis for the stop of the suspect given the 9-1-1 call idnentifying the driver of the truck as a the suspect in a fight, his erratic driving and his failure to yieled to the activated lights and siren.
The man is now pursuing a legal claim against the city. He is represented by a lawyer who also is suing the city on behalf of the family of Michael Nida, a South Gate man who was killed in an officer-involved shooting in October 2011 – a tragic shooting that involved the same officer seen in the July 15, 2011 videotape, which is now circulating with media. A District Attorney’s investigation into that shooting is continuing.
The conduct of the arresting officers as seen and heard in the videotape resulted in an internal review that concluded the officers’ use of force was reasonable in response to the suspect’s resistance. However, one officer’s language and demeanor, while influence by events immediately preceding the arrest and the suspect’s conduct, is unfortunate and inconsistent with officer’s history of professionalism.
However, these two incidents are completely separate events. An officer’s conduct must be judged on a case-by-case basis and only after considering the totality of the circumstances known to the officer at the moment their decisions are being made.
#9
05-26-2012, 12:24 PM
I didn't anyone them pushing his skull into the floor... I saw the police officer grab him by his neck and administer a pressure point. Anytime we (the police) get rough with someone, there will always be someone to claims abuse.
I suppose the guy who yelled don't taze me bro was abused as well?!?!
When the police tell you to do something and you don't do it... there is no negotiating at that point!!!
I suppose the guy who yelled don't taze me bro was abused as well?!?!
When the police tell you to do something and you don't do it... there is no negotiating at that point!!!
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