if not an H3, then what?
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I have an answer to the OP's guestion:
The Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster
Not only does it look somewhat "Hummer-ish", but it probably exceeds the H2/H3 in both off-road capability and interior civilization.
Like the H2/H3, it is available in Pickup and Utility (SUV) style variants. It also "Checks all the Boxes" mentioned in my previous post in this thread -- Including the in-line engine, which most H3's had.
I particularly like the aircraft style overhead switch panel, and "More Hummer than Hummer" general appearance of the cabin.
While it is, of course a premium vehicle, it's pricing is comparable (considering inflation) to the MSRP of an H2, and not too far off of an equipped H3. (And at least $10K less than an H-ev)
I will also mention that I have researched the transmission used in these vehicles. I've owned a Jaguar with the ZF-8HP transmission, and it is a capable and well-rated gearbox used in many European Sports Cars and SUV's.
While I can't provide similar personal familiarity for the BMW 6 cyl inline engine, I frankly don't think I need to. Anybody that doesn't answer with the name of a color when asked "What kind of car do you drive?" probably knows about BMW inline-6's.
When you take delivery of your Ineos Genadier Quatermaster, I'd really appreciate it if you mentioned that The CarCynic sent you, but I have no affiliation with Ineos.
The Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster
Not only does it look somewhat "Hummer-ish", but it probably exceeds the H2/H3 in both off-road capability and interior civilization.
Like the H2/H3, it is available in Pickup and Utility (SUV) style variants. It also "Checks all the Boxes" mentioned in my previous post in this thread -- Including the in-line engine, which most H3's had.
I particularly like the aircraft style overhead switch panel, and "More Hummer than Hummer" general appearance of the cabin.
While it is, of course a premium vehicle, it's pricing is comparable (considering inflation) to the MSRP of an H2, and not too far off of an equipped H3. (And at least $10K less than an H-ev)
I will also mention that I have researched the transmission used in these vehicles. I've owned a Jaguar with the ZF-8HP transmission, and it is a capable and well-rated gearbox used in many European Sports Cars and SUV's.
While I can't provide similar personal familiarity for the BMW 6 cyl inline engine, I frankly don't think I need to. Anybody that doesn't answer with the name of a color when asked "What kind of car do you drive?" probably knows about BMW inline-6's.
When you take delivery of your Ineos Genadier Quatermaster, I'd really appreciate it if you mentioned that The CarCynic sent you, but I have no affiliation with Ineos.
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I have an answer to the OP's guestion:
The Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster
The Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster
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https://www.carmax.com/cars/fj-cruis...05&gclsrc=3p.d.
Those FJ 's discontinued in 2022 keep thier values
Those FJ 's discontinued in 2022 keep thier values
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Oohh, this looks nice. Just can't feel comfortable with an EV, though. However, Scout will offer an on-board gasoline-powered generator system ...
https://www.scoutmotors.com/traveler
https://www.scoutmotors.com/traveler
Last edited by Justinh; Dec 6, 2025 at 01:25 PM.
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Oohh, this looks nice. Just can't feel comfortable with an EV, though. However, Scout will offer an on-board gasoline-powered generator system ...
https://www.scoutmotors.com/traveler
https://www.scoutmotors.com/traveler
LOOK HERE>>>>
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Bought a 1993 in the Fall of 2019 with 201k miles on it for $400; zero rust (WA based) and all it needed was a single ignition coil to run and get back on the road. Vehicle is very simple (I mean, it’s OBD I after all), parts are extremely cheap and easy to find, and they are super, super easy to work on.
I’ve done a decent amount of work to it over the course of owning it for six years, but it is at the point now where I would comfortably take it on a 1000+ mile road trip if needed. It just hit 257k miles, and every cylinder was under 10% leakage on a leak down test.
It used to be my daily driver until about two years ago when I got back into the H3 business. Since then, it has served as a (very solid) backup vehicle for me and my wife when one of the H3’s goes down for repairs.
