if not an H3, then what?
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That Yukon is nice for sure, but the $$ is crazy, and the GM V8s aren't doing too well these days (join the class-action, anyone?). Ford reliability is in question, too.
I'm open to looking at a Japanese/foreign ride, but it is hard for me to actually *want* one - I've driven GM my entire life!
I'm open to looking at a Japanese/foreign ride, but it is hard for me to actually *want* one - I've driven GM my entire life!
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That would be nice, but OP was asking for alternatives to the H3. 
I've never wheeled with anyone with a T, but I suspect they will suffer the same departure and breakover angle limitations that all the other pickups with longer wheelbases experience.
I've never wheeled with anyone with a T, but I suspect they will suffer the same departure and breakover angle limitations that all the other pickups with longer wheelbases experience.
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That Yukon is nice for sure, but the $$ is crazy, and the GM V8s aren't doing to well these days (join the class-action, anyone?). Ford reliability is in question, too.
I'm open to looking at a Japanese/foreign ride, but it is hard for me to actually *want* one - I've driven GM my entire life!
I'm open to looking at a Japanese/foreign ride, but it is hard for me to actually *want* one - I've driven GM my entire life!
Only GM under my **** for life too.
Btw, I purchased my '07(2nd owner) back in early 2012 after the 1st owner 5yr lease returned, which cost me less than HALF MSRP in pristine condition! 
MY TIPS:
-NEVER BUY NEW!
-BUY LEASE RETURN VEHICLES (MOST ARE WELL MAINTAINED & CARED FOR AS REQUIRED IN LEASE AGREEMENT WHEN RETURNING TO AVOID ADDITIONAL COST)!
Here's an example price reduction on a low miler yet not the AT4 which started in '21:
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There is a longer breakover angle in the rear, but not like most pickup trucks. They wheel pretty darn well.
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I have an answer to the OP's guestion:
The Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster
Not only does it look somewhat "Hummer-ish", but it probably exceeds the H2/H3 in both off-road capability and interior civilization.
Like the H2/H3, it is available in Pickup and Utility (SUV) style variants. It also "Checks all the Boxes" mentioned in my previous post in this thread -- Including the in-line engine, which most H3's had.
I particularly like the aircraft style overhead switch panel, and "More Hummer than Hummer" general appearance of the cabin.
While it is, of course a premium vehicle, it's pricing is comparable (considering inflation) to the MSRP of an H2, and not too far off of an equipped H3. (And at least $10K less than an H-ev)
I will also mention that I have researched the transmission used in these vehicles. I've owned a Jaguar with the ZF-8HP transmission, and it is a capable and well-rated gearbox used in many European Sports Cars and SUV's.
While I can't provide similar personal familiarity for the BMW 6 cyl inline engine, I frankly don't think I need to. Anybody that doesn't answer with the name of a color when asked "What kind of car do you drive?" probably knows about BMW inline-6's.
When you take delivery of your Ineos Genadier Quatermaster, I'd really appreciate it if you mentioned that The CarCynic sent you, but I have no affiliation with Ineos.
The Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster
Not only does it look somewhat "Hummer-ish", but it probably exceeds the H2/H3 in both off-road capability and interior civilization.
Like the H2/H3, it is available in Pickup and Utility (SUV) style variants. It also "Checks all the Boxes" mentioned in my previous post in this thread -- Including the in-line engine, which most H3's had.
I particularly like the aircraft style overhead switch panel, and "More Hummer than Hummer" general appearance of the cabin.
While it is, of course a premium vehicle, it's pricing is comparable (considering inflation) to the MSRP of an H2, and not too far off of an equipped H3. (And at least $10K less than an H-ev)
I will also mention that I have researched the transmission used in these vehicles. I've owned a Jaguar with the ZF-8HP transmission, and it is a capable and well-rated gearbox used in many European Sports Cars and SUV's.
While I can't provide similar personal familiarity for the BMW 6 cyl inline engine, I frankly don't think I need to. Anybody that doesn't answer with the name of a color when asked "What kind of car do you drive?" probably knows about BMW inline-6's.
When you take delivery of your Ineos Genadier Quatermaster, I'd really appreciate it if you mentioned that The CarCynic sent you, but I have no affiliation with Ineos.
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I have an answer to the OP's guestion:
The Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster
Not only does it look somewhat "Hummer-ish", but it probably exceeds the H2/H3 in both off-road capability and interior civilization.
Like the H2/H3, it is available in Pickup and Utility (SUV) style variants. It also "Checks all the Boxes" mentioned in my previous post in this thread -- Including the in-line engine, which most H3's had.
I particularly like the aircraft style overhead switch panel, and "More Hummer than Hummer" general appearance of the cabin.
While it is, of course a premium vehicle, it's pricing is comparable (considering inflation) to the MSRP of an H2, and not too far off of an equipped H3. (And at least $10K less than an H-ev)
I will also mention that I have researched the transmission used in these vehicles. I've owned a Jaguar with the ZF-8HP transmission, and it is a capable and well-rated gearbox used in many European Sports Cars and SUV's.
While I can't provide similar personal familiarity for the BMW 6 cyl inline engine, I frankly don't think I need to. Anybody that doesn't answer with the name of a color when asked "What kind of car do you drive?" probably knows about BMW inline-6's.
When you take delivery of your Ineos Genadier Quatermaster, I'd really appreciate it if you mentioned that The CarCynic sent you, but I have no affiliation with Ineos.
The Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster
Not only does it look somewhat "Hummer-ish", but it probably exceeds the H2/H3 in both off-road capability and interior civilization.
Like the H2/H3, it is available in Pickup and Utility (SUV) style variants. It also "Checks all the Boxes" mentioned in my previous post in this thread -- Including the in-line engine, which most H3's had.
I particularly like the aircraft style overhead switch panel, and "More Hummer than Hummer" general appearance of the cabin.
While it is, of course a premium vehicle, it's pricing is comparable (considering inflation) to the MSRP of an H2, and not too far off of an equipped H3. (And at least $10K less than an H-ev)
I will also mention that I have researched the transmission used in these vehicles. I've owned a Jaguar with the ZF-8HP transmission, and it is a capable and well-rated gearbox used in many European Sports Cars and SUV's.
While I can't provide similar personal familiarity for the BMW 6 cyl inline engine, I frankly don't think I need to. Anybody that doesn't answer with the name of a color when asked "What kind of car do you drive?" probably knows about BMW inline-6's.
When you take delivery of your Ineos Genadier Quatermaster, I'd really appreciate it if you mentioned that The CarCynic sent you, but I have no affiliation with Ineos.
