Planet Audio = High End?

 

I do know that there are some manufactures that use paper (just paper) for cone material.
My home theater system speakers, Klipsch uses folded horn and carbon fiber graphite in their direct firing speakers.
Any paper cone speaker will sound good in a home system where you have a controlled environment, but
in a vehicle there is high humidity, by being outside and paper cone material will absorb this moisture
and over time, the sound quality will get very muddy. Paper is also inconsistent and imaging is harder to match
DocOlds new speakers are a carbon graphite material and should hold up for years.
I am just surprised that Monsoon, which is considered an audio upgrade for GM vehicles would use
what most car audio installers use today, which are these other newer materials

It looks like your planet audio reference, uses these very same high end materials for all their loudspeakers

 

i never paid much attention b4 since i assumed all new design speakers were pretty good. but when paper is simply considered junk i figgured a search for more info was in store. the info is endless and points to paper as being still a top choice,with some treatments used for appearance or protection,humidity.
this from wiki is just part of the endless discussionof speaker cone material with most modern still using,,paper. the planet,which i never heard of previously,was the first i encountered on first look.


Speaker cone

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This article does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (March 2011) A speaker cone, loudspeaker cone or diaphram can be manufactured from various materials depending on driver implementation ( i.e. box design), desired frequency response for each driver, and cost.
Although the speaker cone is technically the cone shaped part, a cone is many times also referred to as the cone/surround assembly to include the outer suspension called the surround.
Quality midrange and bass drivers are usually made from paper, paper composites and laminates, or plastic materials such as polypropylene or mineral/fiber filled polypropylene. Such materials have very high strength/weight ratios (paper being even higher than metals) and tend to be relatively immune from flexing during large excursions. This allows the driver to react quickly during transitions in music ( i.e. fast changing transient impulses) and minimizes acoustical output distortion.
If properly designed in terms of mass, stiffness, and damping, paper woofer/midrange cones can outperform many exotic drivers made from fancier more expensive materials. A 12-inch-diameter (300 mm) paper woofer with a peak-to-peak excursion of 0.5 inches at 60 Hz undergoes a maximum acceleration of 92 "g"s.
Paper based cones account for approx. 85% of the cones sold worldwide. The ability of paper (cellulose) to be easily modified by chemical or mechanical means gives it a practical processing advantage not found in other common cone materials.
The purpose of the cone/surround assembly is to accurately reproduce the voice coil signal waveform. Inaccurate reproduction of the voice coil signal results in acoustical distortion. The ideal for a cone/surround assembly is an extended range of linearity or "pistonic" motion characterized by i) minimal acoustical breakup of the cone material, ii) minimal standing wave patterns in the cone, and iii) linearity of the surrounds force-deflection curve. The cone stiffness/damping plus the surround's linearity/damping play a crucial role in accuracy of the reproduced voice coil signal waveform. This is the crux of high fidelity stereo.

 

btw,i just had to check out docs 600 watt replacements, definetly good stuff but the age old advertizing hype, will it ever end!!?

• 6-1/2" A Series 3-Way Car Speakers
• Power Handling:
  • Peak: 600 watts per pair / 300 watts each
  • RMS: 70 watts per pair / 35 watts each
• Carbon graphite IMPP interlaced aramid fiber cone
• Light weight elastic polymer surround

so it quickly gets to the bottom line,35 watts rms!

 

How did you fry a speaker? I can understand if it tears and starts buzzing, or if you get it wet and it stops working, but just silently quitting and sitting there? That sounds like a broken wire to me not a speaker that just plain stopped working, ???

Thanks for the speaker info on those Pioneers, I'm gonna have to get me some stereo upgrades going soon.

 

Went to dealer, said ordered new speaker. Under WarraNTY.

 

makes u wonder if a lot of space is wasted here

 

I just have the base stereo in my 07, so it is out of bumper to bumper. Personally I would never put those same OEM speakers back in even if they were under warranty.

Anyways, one day I was leaving the bank and notice that my left tweeter sounded louder than usual??? So when I got home, I noticed that it wasn't louder, it was that both my front and rear left side speakers were dead, nothing, silent? I believe the rear went out first but I never noticed it until the remaining front went out a bit later.

I thought the same thing, bad connection, harness short, but nope, just two dead speakers.

When I was much younger, when a speaker blew it just sounded like crap, never had one just completely quit. No visible sign of damage or moisture problems.