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Shayne100 09-24-2014 12:10 PM

This is why your Hummer Leaks In the Rain
 
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The roof rail channel drains over your side roof light connection this rag shows where it goes

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Water escapes here to run down the inside of your door rubber or to be more accurate its just left to go wherever it chooses .

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Door rubbers are stuck on with ..... MUD !

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While your up there tear the gasket off the bottom of your roof light its a bloody sponge

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A bead of silicone means water will never get under your marker light though it doesn't really matter as the roof rails are designed to drain under the light any way .

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The one pic i forgot to take is of the big blob of gutter sealant i put on top of the the rubber grommet to ensure water bypasses it . Now i need to remove the rubber door seal and the one on the plastic roof trim , clean all the crap out and glue them tight into place so mud or water cannot get behind them .

If your leak has just started pull the windscreen column trip and clean out the accumulated leaves and mud and whatnot from the gap at the top . This slows the drainage of the rail channels allowing them to fill up with water to a level higher than the grommet letting water in .

Dieseldrums 09-26-2014 08:41 AM

I have a thread about sealing the a/c intake somewhere, sorry can't figure out how to paste the link. It's called new culprit for soaked passenger floor. Check that out while your at it....

ak47dennis 09-26-2014 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Shayne100 (Post 317487)
The roof rail channel drains over your side roof light connection this rag shows where it goes

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps993f1737.jpg

Water escapes here to run down the inside of your door rubber or to be more accurate its just left to go wherever it chooses .

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/a...psbad0458f.jpg

Door rubbers are stuck on with ..... MUD !

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps860d5da5.jpg

While your up there tear the gasket off the bottom of your roof light its a bloody sponge

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps17176857.jpg

A bead of silicone means water will never get under your marker light though it doesn't really matter as the roof rails are designed to drain under the light any way .

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps51d3e0a4.jpg

The one pic i forgot to take is of the big blob of gutter sealant i put on top of the the rubber grommet to ensure water bypasses it . Now i need to remove the rubber door seal and the one on the plastic roof trim , clean all the crap out and glue them tight into place so mud or water cannot get behind them .

If your leak has just started pull the windscreen column trip and clean out the accumulated leaves and mud and whatnot from the gap at the top . This slows the drainage of the rail channels allowing them to fill up with water to a level higher than the grommet letting water in .

Shayne thanks for the right-up. I will pull my lights up and silicon under them. I pulled my weather strip off back in summer and cleaned mine all up in the laundry sink with cleaner. They also were packed with crud like yours, my leaking or little water drops on my inside pillars seems to have stopped..for now.

Shayne100 09-28-2014 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Dieseldrums (Post 317573)
I have a thread about sealing the a/c intake somewhere, sorry can't figure out how to paste the link. It's called new culprit for soaked passenger floor. Check that out while your at it....

I can't be 100% sure but i think the a/c is an entirely closed system it takes air from within the cab cools it and blows it back . If you have water coming out of it i would guess it just happens to be the route water takes from your leaking roof , or possibly a condensation build up within the a/c itself . Either way i would not choose to block it up as it only means water will be forced to find another route possibly over far more important electrics .

Dieseldrums 09-29-2014 02:21 PM

The water actually comes in from around the intake located on the outside passenger side under the windshield wiper cowl, not from the a/c itself. The drain exit out of the firewall for the sunroof drain is actually right above it...
It comes in down the firewall and pools up on the passenger floor. You're just sealing the outer edge of the intake hole -not actually blocking anything up.

https://www.hummerforums.com/forum/h...culprit+soaked

Shayne100 09-29-2014 02:53 PM

Ah i missed that thanks dieseldrums i guess thats another design error i will have to investigate and remedy . If i didn't know better i'd swear i was driving an untested prototype seems the basic vehicle was built to be bullet proof and they then contracted a third world toy factory to to fit the the interior and trim :(

Helga She Is Fine 09-29-2014 09:12 PM

Under that light has been the biggest pain of my life with the H2. After a snow when the truck would sit in the sun the snow would melt, follow that path, and refreeze in the door jam. I would come back to a frozen door almost every day. I even have water leaking through the grab handle bolts, by the looks of it it's all the same leak.

Dieseldrums 09-30-2014 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Shayne100 (Post 317674)
Ah i missed that thanks dieseldrums i guess thats another design error i will have to investigate and remedy . If i didn't know better i'd swear i was driving an untested prototype seems the basic vehicle was built to be bullet proof and they then contracted a third world toy factory to to fit the the interior and trim :(

Yeah, well what do you expect for a $60,000 vehicle (priced in 2003)...

That leak took me a while to track down! I had to also change out my a/c fan that was full of water.

Don't forget to seal the molding under the side pillars if you haven't already. I'm sure you have had the "rattle" driving down the road.

iwillnc 10-10-2014 06:16 PM

Actually they started at 48k per my window sticker, fully loaded mine was about 53k total.

hmer 10-10-2014 10:02 PM

The last i remember 54k ish was the base model .

Dieseldrums 10-11-2014 09:20 AM

The one's I test drove on 2003 were $60k and they had one there at Dew Hummer in St Pete set up for a Buccaneer player that was well over 100K....

Anyway....

Just being sarcastic about the leak. Can you instruct us on the correct tire pressure? You were that kid with the glasses and bowtie in my 4th grade class always with his hand up first, right?

Synthetickiller 10-16-2014 09:46 AM

This is what did in my H2. The dealership never could figure it out & I ended up having electrical issues because of it. I wish I had seen this forum back then.

Lots of great info here. :D

rhinomike 10-16-2014 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Dieseldrums (Post 317709)
Don't forget to seal the molding under the side pillars if you haven't already. I'm sure you have had the "rattle" driving down the road.



I was just going to post about this. I am getting wind noise from the front windshield. Both driver and passenger sides. As I drove it down the highway I reached out and I think I feel the plastic molding along the windshield rattling or vibrating. Like it could pinch my finger between the molding and the glass. Is this what you are talking about? How do I seal it? Should I remove the molding or just caulk under it from the outside? Thank You.

Dieseldrums 10-16-2014 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by rhinomike (Post 318349)
I was just going to post about this. I am getting wind noise from the front windshield. Both driver and passenger sides. As I drove it down the highway I reached out and I think I feel the plastic molding along the windshield rattling or vibrating. Like it could pinch my finger between the molding and the glass. Is this what you are talking about? How do I seal it? Should I remove the molding or just caulk under it from the outside? Thank You.

There's a ton of posts with pics on here. I had to seal all the molding under the pillars with them off.

Rusty_03 12-22-2014 12:00 AM

Found the window sticker for my wife's H2. MSRP $63000! In 2003. Hell, my 2014 Ram 3500 Limited 4x4 CTD MegaDually with everything except the sunroof & Limited chrome pkg was only $71145 MSRP when I ordered it in March, 2014 (I didn't pay nearly that much!).

WSLN 6 12-22-2014 11:50 AM

Amazing the stock price on these.....mine was $82000 and change in Canada.

papsmear 12-22-2014 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by rhinomike (Post 318349)
I was just going to post about this. I am getting wind noise from the front windshield. Both driver and passenger sides. As I drove it down the highway I reached out and I think I feel the plastic molding along the windshield rattling or vibrating. Like it could pinch my finger between the molding and the glass. Is this what you are talking about? How do I seal it? Should I remove the molding or just caulk under it from the outside? Thank You.

http://members.rennlist.com/sharkski...EV-3m-Calk.jpg
open doors pull rubber down to expose 2 screws remove those screws, take plastic pillar off clean and use 3m calk, that stuff is worth its weight in gold.
no more rattles. trust me.

HummerH2SUT 01-18-2017 01:04 AM

This is why you hummer leaks in the rain
 
Shayne100, in your post, you stated:
"pull the windscreen column trip and clean out the accumulated leaves and mud and whatnot from the gap at the top . This slows the drainage of the rail channels allowing them to fill up with water to a level higher than the grommet letting water in . "


What exactly do you mean by "column trip"? I have a Limited Edition Victory Red H2 SUT (2005) that is more of a "collector" auto for me. I only have 40,000 miles on it and water has JUST started to leak into the center overhead console when it rains. When I drive it, the water drips out of the 2 map light switches and lights onto my dash.


I completely get and understand everything else in your post and the pictures did help. I used to be a certified diesel mechanic for Caterpillar, Mack Trucks and Freightliner, so I am pretty "mechanic" minded.
Would like to check this windscreen column trip you talk about.


Any info would be helpful.

clsimmon 01-18-2017 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Helga She Is Fine (Post 317689)
Under that light has been the biggest pain of my life with the H2. After a snow when the truck would sit in the sun the snow would melt, follow that path, and refreeze in the door jam. I would come back to a frozen door almost every day. I even have water leaking through the grab handle bolts, by the looks of it it's all the same leak.

If you have water leaking out of your grab handles this is mostly likely due to shrink in the grommet plug of the clearance light as noted in the first picture of Shayne100's original post. In fact, most all of your leaking driver floor board issues are from this grommet. As noted in this thread, RTV silicone will resolve this issue. I have confirmed it: https://www.hummerforums.com/forum/h...clogged-20269/

Shayne100, I'm assuming your upper door weatherstrip is installed and is in good working condition? GM part: 25868657. This is the weatherstrip that keeps water away from the door area and down the A-pillar properly.

MuseumMansDaughter 07-03-2023 01:07 AM


Originally Posted by Shayne100 (Post 317674)
Ah i missed that thanks dieseldrums i guess thats another design error i will have to investigate and remedy . If i didn't know better i'd swear i was driving an untested prototype seems the basic vehicle was built to be bullet proof and they then contracted a third world toy factory to to fit the the interior and trim :(

SHAYNE,,, i agree, i have water coming in SEVERAL PLACES,, wipers getting stuck ON,, windshield washer motor screaming, ignition switch running battery down if key is not off JUST RIGHT, man,,,GM failed

clsimmon 07-03-2023 07:38 AM

It's hard to believe that most of these trucks are now pushing 20 years old now. It's less about the design/engineering, though they could have done better in a lot of areas., at this point and more about the maintenance due to age and mileage.

I've learned over the years GM did not have both eyes on the H2 when it came to the H2. Keep in mind they shared engineering, design, QA, and production with AM General. A lot of what we see in terms of bad, and good, design decisions was due to this partnership in the creation of the H2.


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