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floriduramax1 03-15-2019 01:10 PM

Help needed with headrest monitors
 
Newb here with first post! I just installed a Pioneer 8400 and ordered the Hummer labeled headrest monitors from Ebay. They came with a 8 pin plug that looks like a S video plug. I searched here before I ordered them and found a post with the plug cut and the wires identified so I thought all would be good...WRONG! Mine look just like the one in the post but when I stripped the cable to expose the wires, I found that mine are different colors and the configuration is different. Does anyone have the pin out info on these? Thank you!

floriduramax1 03-21-2019 11:25 AM

I figured even since no replies I would update the thread. After trial and error, without letting the smoke out, I figured out the wiring and have everything working! Now I just need to find the best LED headlight and driving lights replacements!

MixManSC 03-21-2019 01:19 PM

Best on the headlights is subjective. I've posted about some that I did a lot of research on and bought which are great. Driving lights? Those two big lights on the front are the daytime running lights.... You can of course run new wires and a relay to a switch and put some other lights there which is what I did. That being said, there is not anything available that will just fit in and install there..... anything aftermarket will require some creativity and modifications to install and there is almost nothing that is as large to fully fill the pockets like the stock DRL's do. I actually used an aftermarket led combo DRL/driving lights made for a Toyota Tundra. They were about the largest lights I could find that would fill the pockets almost fully everything else was considerably smaller (leaving a big gap around the light) or too big. Toyota Tundra Tacoma LED Halo Ring Daytime Running Lights
One of the hardest bits is finding physical dimensions of ones specific to other vehicles to try and find some that were big enough to fill the pockets nicely. I've posted about these in some other thread as well at some point.

floriduramax1 03-21-2019 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by MixManSC (Post 358995)
Best on the headlights is subjective. I've posted about some that I did a lot of research on and bought which are great. Driving lights? Those two big lights on the front are the daytime running lights.... You can of course run new wires and a relay to a switch and put some other lights there which is what I did. That being said, there is not anything available that will just fit in and install there..... anything aftermarket will require some creativity and modifications to install and there is almost nothing that is as large to fully fill the pockets like the stock DRL's do. I actually used an aftermarket led combo DRL/driving lights made for a Toyota Tundra. They were about the largest lights I could find that would fill the pockets almost fully everything else was considerably smaller (leaving a big gap around the light) or too big. Toyota Tundra Tacoma LED Halo Ring Daytime Running Lights
One of the hardest bits is finding physical dimensions of ones specific to other vehicles to try and find some that were big enough to fill the pockets nicely. I've posted about these in some other thread as well at some point.

Thank you. I am aware that I have to add a relay to have the DRL's serve as driving lights as well. I just placed an order for the JW Speakers 7" 8700 EVO2 headlights and their #6050 4.5" driving lights as I buy from a JW distributor. We have a fab shop so I can get them looking good. I will post pics when I finish.

MixManSC 03-21-2019 03:39 PM

Sweet! Not the cheapest but you get what you pay for and JW Speaker is top notch. Look forward to seeing what you come up with for mounting the fogs. The headlights, will probably have to do some trimming of the buckets for them to fit - easy plastic though. Also will need to get a set of plug adapters as most aftermarket 7" lights come with H4 plugs.

Another slick idea - you can get them on eBay cheap, get one that includes a bit of the wiring and plug as you will need to add three pins to your stock plug.... you can get a rear wiper switch for a GM SUV that has a factory fog light button. :) Its momentary though and while you can pin it to our BCM and a Tech2 will even register the button press, the output is not enabled in the BCM and even the GM software will not let you reprogram it to enable the output. Only way to make it usable that way would be to swap a BCM from a GM SUV that has nearly all identical options like digital climate control, etc. Next best option is to just get a latching relay and use that. I just like that it is a true factory fog light button, that does not exist on an H2. Mine is probably the only one. For now anyways... Escalade (or Denali, etc) wood/leather wheel is an easy swap too. Look forward to seeing yours. You will love it - the stock headlights are truly awful.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...df24b713d9.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...3a47e2dab2.jpg

Licjhondelacruz 03-21-2019 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by floriduramax1 (Post 358988)
I figured even since no replies I would update the thread. After trial and error, without letting the smoke out, I figured out the wiring and have everything working! Now I just need to find the best LED headlight and driving lights replacements!

hey i have the same issue with mines can u plz post some pictures of the wiring or tell me more about it plz

floriduramax1 03-22-2019 01:03 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...64771c2896.jpg
Unfortunately I didn't take pics. When I stripped the wires (carefully) I found the configuration totally different than what was posted here before. The only thing the same was the thin black wire is for sure the positive wire and the use all the ground shields as negative for everything like the auido, video and ground. I had three tiny coaxes that when stripped back (carefully) I had a faintly colored red, green and blue. Turns out the red was video and green and blue the audio that feeds the monitors infra red audio. They work and look real nice.

floriduramax1 03-22-2019 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by MixManSC (Post 359005)
Sweet! Not the cheapest but you get what you pay for and JW Speaker is top notch. Look forward to seeing what you come up with for mounting the fogs. The headlights, will probably have to do some trimming of the buckets for them to fit - easy plastic though. Also will need to get a set of plug adapters as most aftermarket 7" lights come with H4 plugs.

Another slick idea - you can get them on eBay cheap, get one that includes a bit of the wiring and plug as you will need to add three pins to your stock plug.... you can get a rear wiper switch for a GM SUV that has a factory fog light button. :) Its momentary though and while you can pin it to our BCM and a Tech2 will even register the button press, the output is not enabled in the BCM and even the GM software will not let you reprogram it to enable the output. Only way to make it usable that way would be to swap a BCM from a GM SUV that has nearly all identical options like digital climate control, etc. Next best option is to just get a latching relay and use that. I just like that it is a true factory fog light button, that does not exist on an H2. Mine is probably the only one. For now anyways... Escalade (or Denali, etc) wood/leather wheel is an easy swap too. Look forward to seeing yours. You will love it - the stock headlights are truly awful.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...df24b713d9.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...3a47e2dab2.jpg

Looks great! Mine is an 08 so dash is different. I will make a custom switch panel as we will have a few more accessories eventually..lol

floriduramax1 03-22-2019 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Licjhondelacruz (Post 359018)
hey i have the same issue with mines can u plz post some pictures of the wiring or tell me more about it plz

I actually found the male plug and just took this picture....



https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...816e8ef750.jpg

Licjhondelacruz 03-22-2019 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by floriduramax1 (Post 359037)
I actually found the male plug and just took this picture....



https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...816e8ef750.jpg

thanks a lot, tomorrow in gonna try to do some work in mine, i'll let u know further...

Fred Mcmurry 03-23-2019 11:50 AM

You can also do this, the diode will bypass the DTRL's to be on in auto mode and also on with the headlights. You'll need a 12 volt 1 amp diode. I bought a 10 pack on ebay for 2 dollars. Solder the diode to a 20-22 gauge solid wire, mark the wire end that matches the silver diode ring, heat shrink over the diode. When you install the diode jumper into the fuse box look at where you marked the wire and make sure the silver ring (cathode) is pointing toward the upper relay, PRK Relay 86. Pull the 10amp DTRL relay fuse and the Park Lamps 10amp fuse as well. Pull both relays, set them to the side in the same orientation that you took them out. Insert the wire into the respective slots, install relays over top of jumper wire. install fuses. Done.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...8dbebffba2.jpg

Fred Mcmurry 03-23-2019 11:55 AM

You can also do this, the diode will bypass the DTRL's to be on in auto mode and also on with the headlights. You'll need a 12 volt 1 amp diode. I bought a 10 pack on ebay for 2 dollars. Solder the diode to a 20-22 gauge solid wire, mark the wire end that matches the silver diode ring, heat shrink over the diode. When you install the diode jumper into the fuse box look at where you marked the wire and make sure the silver ring (cathode) is pointing toward the upper relay, PRK Relay 86. Pull the 10amp DTRL relay fuse and the Park Lamps 10amp fuse as well. Pull both relays, set them to the side in the same orientation that you took them out. Insert the wire into the respective slots, install relays over top of jumper wire. install fuses. Done.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...8dbebffba2.jpg

Licjhondelacruz 03-23-2019 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by floriduramax1 (Post 359037)
I actually found the male plug and just took this picture....



https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...816e8ef750.jpg

hey as u say before the black one was the power wire but i cant figure it out how to same video from a RCA cable to the red one.... if u have any idea let me know plz, i cut the end of the RCA yellow cable and put it directly to the red one but it doenst show anything

Licjhondelacruz 03-23-2019 04:47 PM


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...8fef8e550.jpeg
Soo i took a pic ok mine wiring uf u ser anything like yours let me know

floriduramax1 03-24-2019 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Licjhondelacruz (Post 359060)

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...8fef8e550.jpeg
Soo i took a pic ok mine wiring uf u ser anything like yours let me know

Yes. Make sure the center conductor of that red coax is not touching the ground shield. That red wire is a very small coax that has a center conductor wrapped around an insulated center conductor. The center conductor is very thin. Did you get the monitor to light up? Strip back the other two coaxes that are foil wrapped so we can see what color they are. From the rca you take the center conductor and connect to center conductor of the coax of monitor cable and then take the ground shield and connect it to ground shield. If monitor lights up make sure it’s on video 1.

Licjhondelacruz 03-24-2019 01:45 PM


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...c005e7be7.jpeg

Originally Posted by floriduramax1 (Post 359074)

Yes. Make sure the center conductor of that red coax is not touching the ground shield. That red wire is a very small coax that has a center conductor wrapped around an insulated center conductor. The center conductor is very thin. Did you get the monitor to light up? Strip back the other two coaxes that are foil wrapped so we can see what color they are. From the rca you take the center conductor and connect to center conductor of the coax of monitor cable and then take the ground shield and connect it to ground shield. If monitor lights up make sure it’s on video 1.

look I wired the black and it turns on, and them as u told me connect the red one to the RCA and it show me image but it's in balck and white not colors this are all the wires on it

floriduramax1 03-24-2019 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Licjhondelacruz (Post 359080)

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...c005e7be7.jpeg

look I wired the black and it turns on, and them as u told me connect the red one to the RCA and it show me image but it's in balck and white not colors this are all the wires on it

If it’s black and white either your connection is not good, the yellow RCA cable you are using is bad (which is very common) or your source video is not good or not set properly. Try another video source.

floriduramax1 03-24-2019 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Licjhondelacruz (Post 359080)

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...c005e7be7.jpeg

look I wired the black and it turns on, and them as u told me connect the red one to the RCA and it show me image but it's in balck and white not colors this are all the wires on it

Are you testing with one monitor on or both on at same time? Where are you located?

Licjhondelacruz 03-25-2019 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by floriduramax1 (Post 359095)

Are you testing with one monitor on or both on at same time? Where are you located?

i finally made it!!!! thanks a lot!!!! without ur tips i wouldn't made it! both of them are now working fine, the issue with the black and white colors was a bad configuration on my headunit.. but i think i'll need to get a better headunit because i can only see video on the headrest screens or the headunit primary screen, they can't work both together but its a headunit thing.. right now i have one of those chicnesses cheaps headunits call "car mp5 player model 7080b"

floriduramax1 03-25-2019 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Licjhondelacruz (Post 359134)
i finally made it!!!! thanks a lot!!!! without ur tips i wouldn't made it! both of them are now working fine, the issue with the black and white colors was a bad configuration on my headunit.. but i think i'll need to get a better headunit because i can only see video on the headrest screens or the headunit primary screen, they can't work both together but its a headunit thing.. right now i have one of those chicnesses cheaps headunits call "car mp5 player model 7080b"

Nice! Congrats! Glad I could be some help.

floriduramax1 03-27-2019 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by MixManSC (Post 358995)
Best on the headlights is subjective. I've posted about some that I did a lot of research on and bought which are great. Driving lights? Those two big lights on the front are the daytime running lights.... You can of course run new wires and a relay to a switch and put some other lights there which is what I did. That being said, there is not anything available that will just fit in and install there..... anything aftermarket will require some creativity and modifications to install and there is almost nothing that is as large to fully fill the pockets like the stock DRL's do. I actually used an aftermarket led combo DRL/driving lights made for a Toyota Tundra. They were about the largest lights I could find that would fill the pockets almost fully everything else was considerably smaller (leaving a big gap around the light) or too big. Toyota Tundra Tacoma LED Halo Ring Daytime Running Lights
One of the hardest bits is finding physical dimensions of ones specific to other vehicles to try and find some that were big enough to fill the pockets nicely. I've posted about these in some other thread as well at some point.

I received the head lights and the lights that take the place of the DRL's yesterday and couldn't wait to mount. The head lights were straight forward and took about 30 mins. Trimmed the inside bucket and cut the plugs and hard wired them. The driving/drl lights were a little different as the new lights have no mounting holes or anything. We took the lenses off the old lights and the new lights fit right in the old housings...SCORE! We used Sika Flex to seal them in. I will be installing later today when they completely dry. I just set one in for a pic. Wife likes them so I'm all good!


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...cca5fa209d.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...44f416333a.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...5a1bc006e4.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...5084042962.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...34a8cc22e6.jpg

MixManSC 03-27-2019 11:06 AM

Very nice! Bet you can hardly wait until night time to see how much better you can actually see. :)

floriduramax1 03-27-2019 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by MixManSC (Post 359240)
Very nice! Bet you can hardly wait until night time to see how much better you can actually see. :)

I drove it home last night with the headlights installed but DTRL/driving lights were drying. The headlights are awesome.

Licjhondelacruz 03-27-2019 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by floriduramax1 (Post 359243)
I drove it home last night with the headlights installed but DTRL/driving lights were drying. The headlights are awesome.

can you plz post some night pictures to see how good are at night?

floriduramax1 03-27-2019 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Fred Mcmurry (Post 359055)
You can also do this, the diode will bypass the DTRL's to be on in auto mode and also on with the headlights. You'll need a 12 volt 1 amp diode. I bought a 10 pack on ebay for 2 dollars. Solder the diode to a 20-22 gauge solid wire, mark the wire end that matches the silver diode ring, heat shrink over the diode. When you install the diode jumper into the fuse box look at where you marked the wire and make sure the silver ring (cathode) is pointing toward the upper relay, PRK Relay 86. Pull the 10amp DTRL relay fuse and the Park Lamps 10amp fuse as well. Pull both relays, set them to the side in the same orientation that you took them out. Insert the wire into the respective slots, install relays over top of jumper wire. install fuses. Done.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hum...8dbebffba2.jpg

I was going to try this but my distribution block looks nothing like that. What year is that? This one is 2008.


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