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rsc Dec 18, 2015 12:56 PM

Ok, you won, you're elected King Of The Internet today.

skeeter Dec 18, 2015 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by 650Hawk (Post 332272)
Well, it may be somewhat common on the H3, but I still maintain that it is not "normal", as evidenced by the fact that only some do it. Mine does not. Many others' who posted also do not. Even the link you provided showed an owner that did extensive testing, while driving, under varied conditions, and saw only a 0.1 volt variation; not enough to cause dimming. THAT is normal behavior.

My Alpha has the same engine and trans as my wife's '06 4wd Tahoe LT. The computerized systems are no more or less complex on either vehicle. Neither exhibits dimming behavior, nor has any vehicle I've ever owned in nearly 40 years of driving, from a 1967 VW Baja Bug to a 2015 Corolla, unless there was a problem.

And the claim (in one of those posts) that the H3 alternator "turns off" during low demand periods is also wrong; output dips, but never stops. NO vehicle is designed to run off the battery only; a battery is there for starting. Once running, 100% of any vehicle's electrical needs are provided by the alternator, and if anything, a newer vehicle should be more consistent with providing the required voltage than an older vehicle. Computers react much faster than the human eye can discern.

If the headlights are dimming noticeably, something is not quite at 100%. Will it cause problems (other than minor annoyance)? Maybe not, but it is not right.

Failing battery terminals on the H3 are common, but they are not "normal". TRACTION FAILED/SERVICE STABILITRAC errors are common, but not " normal ". PO651 CEL codes are common, but... So unless you can point me to a printed response from GM saying it's normal, I guess we'll still have to agree to disagree.

How is it that you say this is not normal, and say that yours does not do it. All the common issues that you list here has never happened to my H3, so by your logic these items are not normal issues

happythree Dec 18, 2015 11:31 PM

jfwiw,, i took a 20 mi round trip to shop,under 50 mph,watched the volts on sg2 go from 13.2 to 14 .2 without my help!, at random. at best a .2v change on speed up/dn.
when i came to a quik complete stop the volts didnt change much,no dimming,BUT, as the nose dipped it appeared to dim as the light dropped on the road.
at times a light touch on brakes seemed to cause a brighter light but that is not for sure,my eyes!

the gen control makes a lot of decisions quickly/constantly for what reason??, who knows.

i dont feel that i have any elect trouble with my h3,,,normal!

oh, ugly solid brass batt terminals.

Paranormal Dec 19, 2015 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by skeeter (Post 332286)
How is it that you say this is not normal, and say that yours does not do it. All the common issues that you list here has never happened to my H3, so by your logic these items are not normal issues

Having common problems with a vehicle, is not normal. If this was the case, there would not be any CEL or messages flashing across the board. RE: Heating resistor recall. GM sees it as a common problem so they issued a recall. It is not normal for the truck to catch fire, it is not normal for all the error codes to flash because of the battery terminals, its PARANORMAL. LOL!!

650Hawk Dec 19, 2015 10:32 AM

thanks
 

Originally Posted by rsc (Post 332277)
Ok, you won, you're elected King Of The Internet today.

Thanks for the patronizing reply.

650Hawk Dec 19, 2015 10:37 AM

You are correct.
 

Originally Posted by skeeter (Post 332286)
How is it that you say this is not normal, and say that yours does not do it. All the common issues that you list here has never happened to my H3, so by your logic these items are not normal issues

????? That's exactly what I said. They are common. They are not normal.


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