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Newbie needing expert answers !!
I am a newbie in search of a hummer h3, h3 Alpha or h3T.. I have some questions before I make a decision and need the help of experts. I have been reading many posts, but would like to get soem updated info.
1) In buying a used h3, what problem areas / recalls / design defects bymodel year should I look for? 2) On a pure stock h3, realistically what mpg should a person get ? 3) When taking a VERY BRIEF test drive today, I noticed alot of body roll when I quickly but slightly jerked on the wheel, IS this common?? ANy stability probelms with?? Again this was a very brief test drive. 4) what other suggestions can you make on the H3? 5) What is everyones feeling about how the h3t will be priced , comparing that the h3 currently has a $7 to 10 k rebate. Your honest opinions would be appreciated, and yes, I am not buying it for the mpg.. JUst had a freind claim hers made half of what the sticker said... She has a problem with the truth, so I would rather have your opinions.... thanks, newbie |
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Sticker has been pretty accurate on the mileage. If your friend has a real heavy foot she may do worse. Hard to pass up the rebates on the 08s. Haven't seen an H3T in person but those that have are in love with it. As for the body roll they are SUVs. If you crank the wheel at speed it will not react like a car. That said H3s will handle more slope than anything else in its class so stability is not an issue when compared to other like vehicles.
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Is the head problemonly on the 2006 model?? And this test drive was a used h3,, might have a problem.. My brothers fj doesnt behave this way, neither has any suv I have driven.. could this be isolated??? Appreciate the help!!!
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ORIGINAL: yellowjacket19 I am a newbie in search of a hummer h3, h3 Alpha or h3T.. I have some questions before I make a decision and need the help of experts. I have been reading many posts, but would like to get soem updated info. 1) In buying a used h3, what problem areas / recalls / design defects bymodel year should I look for? Not really a defect, but you can look at the door controls for window/lock controls since they moved up half way through 2007. No problem areas to avoid. 2) On a pure stock h3, realistically what mpg should a person get ? 15-18 on the inline 5. I got 14.7 driving all city and a lead foot. 3) When taking a VERY BRIEF test drive today, I noticed alot of body roll when I quickly but slightly jerked on the wheel, IS this common?? ANy stability probelms with?? Again this was a very brief test drive. Compared to other SUVs, the H3, I think, has incredible body-tilt control. The wide stance really helps this. 4) what other suggestions can you make on the H3? Buy one, preferably from a good dealer. ;) 5) What is everyones feeling about how the h3t will be priced , comparing that the h3 currently has a $7 to 10 k rebate. Pricing will be LESS than the H3, with the H3T starting at 31,495. Your honest opinions would be appreciated, and yes, I am not buying it for the mpg.. JUst had a freind claim hers made half of what the sticker said... She has a problem with the truth, so I would rather have your opinions....The only person I've ever seen get anywhere NEAR half of the sticker was Rod Hall and Team HUMMER during a race (go figure)...14-18 will be your accurate mileage depending on your driving habits. thanks, newbie |
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Your brother's FJ is a piece of crap.[8D] Note: no us of derogatory use of words refering to Japan, Japanese people, or rice, for those overly sensitive types. :D
Trucks have "body roll" period, unless you lower them in to a street sweeper. So do vans and minivans now that I think about it. If that is freakin you out??? stick with a car. The TSB for the head/valve issue was directed toward GM vehicles with the engine assembly date prior to March 31, 2006. The Vin #s effected are in the head and valve issue sticky thread and others. IMO if you are thinking used, the 07 is a better choice because of the 3.7L and +20 HP, but more importantly, better warranty. |
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The fj is hardly a piece of crap, the american "jap" issue is way over done. In fact, most idiots that argue that point failed to realize their axle most likely says mexico,, your other parts canada. And harley "the most america boasted product ever" boasted a JAP carb for many years. We live in a global market.. no longer based on jap/ us/ them bs. or anyone else.
When you go eat at mcdonalds do you ever ask who owns the franchise and whose pockets you are really lining , or do you just question it when you think you get dog at the chinese buffet? Or when you watch your foreign made tv, do you turn it off in total hate at the inferior foreign product or fail to recognize that there are no tvs made in america just named so. I buy a product because I like it and have faith in it. I have owned a harley, and I am most likely buying an h3 or h3t. Nothing is freaking me out. I tested exactly one hummer h3 and it had alot of roll. The fj as well as its own unique handling issues. but I wanted to know if this is common or perhaps a "wrecked/rebuilder"... AS far as the gas issue , as stated an ex friend claimed she got 1/2 the sticker mpg, but if I soley took her word. I wouldn't even be looking at an h3 anyways. For my first post I wasn't greeted very nicely by your remark, should I therefore conclude what others have posted about peoples view of hummer owners? OR should I just rub off your abrasive style of writing of someone who doesn't understand how to answer questions, doesn't know zip about global economy, about the manufacturing of goods or to act better than a fourteen year old kid with the ford chevy debate. I ask you, if the Indian firm buys hummer , are you still going to wave your flag and attack people over a product that CURRENTLY has investors from all over the world, designers from all over the world, buyers from all over the world etc.... buy the way, you might try figuring where your gas came from that powers your "totally" america made product. I believe I asked technical questions, and opinions from experts- and not to be attacked or confused for someone who doesn't understand the market system. Or how little minds think in little ways. BY the way superman can kick captain americas a$$ , just like a simple set of technical questions did yours........... Read your comic books.. |
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Newbie,
Definitely buy a truck with the offroad suspension package, which will also have the Monsoon. Ultimately, that suspension will make the truck so much more versatile. I've worked in sales mgt/finance mgtin a HUMMER dealership since 1/03 and all of the HUMMER products have been very reliable. A number of our customers have experienced the head problem, but I never had a problem in my 06 and drove it to 40K.Now I have an 08 and I do like the window switch repositioning. My experience with mileage is that it's pretty close to the window sticker.The tire pressure monitoring system can be a pain with occasional false Low Tire Pressure warnings, but it's a simple reset. Also, if you buy used, make sure you buy it from a HUMMER dealer and make sure it is HUMMER Certified. Certificationtakes the$0 deductible, bumper to bumper factory warranty to 6 years from the original inservice date or 100K miles, whichever comes first. Certification costs $1000 and it's worth every penny.If you buy new, feel free to contact me and I'll do whatever I can to let you know exactly what you should be paying. All I need is the last 8 digits of the VIN and I'll look up the invoice for you. |
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You shouldn't be asking strangers on what vehicle to buy, we don't know how you plan on using it. If you need a pickup truck buy the H3T. If your going to go off road and/or tow than buy the Alpha. If you want to go off road sometimes than buy the H3. I had the 06 and I now own the 07 and I like the new window switch placement better on the 07s+.
I average close to 16 mpg and mine is loaded with UBP, skid plates, rock rails, 33" tires, etc. |
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ORIGINAL: yellowjacket19 The fj is hardly a piece of crap, the american "jap" issue is way over done. In fact, most idiots that argue that point failed to realize their axle most likely says mexico,, your other parts canada. And harley "the most america boasted product ever" boasted a JAP carb for many years. We live in a global market.. no longer based on jap/ us/ them bs. or anyone else. When you go eat at mcdonalds do you ever ask who owns the franchise and whose pockets you are really lining , or do you just question it when you think you get dog at the chinese buffet? Or when you watch your foreign made tv, do you turn it off in total hate at the inferior foreign product or fail to recognize that there are no tvs made in america just named so. I buy a product because I like it and have faith in it. I have owned a harley, and I am most likely buying an h3 or h3t. Nothing is freaking me out. I tested exactly one hummer h3 and it had alot of roll. The fj as well as its own unique handling issues. but I wanted to know if this is common or perhaps a "wrecked/rebuilder"... AS far as the gas issue , as stated an ex friend claimed she got 1/2 the sticker mpg, but if I soley took her word. I wouldn't even be looking at an h3 anyways. For my first post I wasn't greeted very nicely by your remark, should I therefore conclude what others have posted about peoples view of hummer owners? OR should I just rub off your abrasive style of writing of someone who doesn't understand how to answer questions, doesn't know zip about global economy, about the manufacturing of goods or to act better than a fourteen year old kid with the ford chevy debate. I ask you, if the Indian firm buys hummer , are you still going to wave your flag and attack people over a product that CURRENTLY has investors from all over the world, designers from all over the world, buyers from all over the world etc.... buy the way, you might try figuring where your gas came from that powers your "totally" america made product. I believe I asked technical questions, and opinions from experts- and not to be attacked or confused for someone who doesn't understand the market system. Or how little minds think in little ways. BY the way superman can kick captain americas a$$ , just like a simple set of technical questions did yours........... Read your comic books.. BTW: you got it wrong. I understand the market sytem, pin heads buy what they want without thinking about it. Be american, buy american. We use these things....[8D] :D called smilies, so when you got no sense of humor if you were paying attention you can tell if somebody was just razzin ya and having some fun. |
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Surely you jest..
3,500 posts proves your mouth over runs your ability to think. Settle down grease head.. A larger combustion chamber doesn't equate to a larger penis nor I.Q. Three further points of advice. 1) Never argue with an idiot, they have more experience (about 3,500 posts worth) 2) The smartest mouths come from the dumbest asses. 3) Dumb people talk the most, usually about nothing or endlessly about motorsports, hunting etc.... or answer every post like they are an EXPERT.. Let me guess you were lucky to graduate high school, you dream of the day you can buy spinners for our 4 x4, and you bitch about taxes yet you would be lucky to ever pay enough taxes to pay for the ten foot spot in front of your trailer house, which you tried to impress your fellow burp and fart crowd- last night by firing it up. I also see you having a cat name fluffy.... I got alot of great answers from others, but if this forum is about being in contactsomeone with the mind of a junior in high school smacking his meat about a "vehicle". well you can have it king grease head. Bye the way.. King Richard is not the ruler of our country - sorry to break your train of thought.... continue on...post another 3,500 mindless, know it all / know nothing abrasive posts... Enjoy your pulpit..... YAwn, yawn. ps- walmart has that Kraco 1000 watt stereo you ordered.. Jc witney your gas magnets... the pawn shop your guns, your wife has your balls, and your boss has your dignity.. Are you sure you have a h3??? You speak like your primary ride is a go kart with a 12 hp motor running on pure nitro I would guess.... |
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He sure do. :D:D
Dale Carnegie reincarnated for sure. |
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YJ
Let me help answer your questions about H3 or H3T first. Go with at least the 07 or newer. The power is much better and you can still get a smokin' deal. Then as was stated you need to decide if you need a pick up all the time or if a suv will work just fine. Something to ponder is that the H3T is in it's first model year. Maybe it's just my luck but the times I've bought something from the first model year I've had problems. Again maybe just my luck but something to think about. Now about your rant. I have found two things here at this site: 1- Great information. If you have questions then you will get an honest and reliable answers here. 2- Most guys here have a great, yet sic, and twisted sense of humor at times. Thus the smiley icons and generally obvious smart a$$ comments. Being a newbie too I think maybe you took things too seriously or are just a person with anger issues[:@]. For me this is the pot calling the kettle black so I this is not a total "calling you out" reply. The point is that if you want answers here you'll find them. If you want a battle of words and rants you'll find that too. I assumed (bad thing to do I know) that maybe you had read some of the questions and responses given prior to joining. Thus you would have seen what type of humor is twisted in with valuable information. [8D] Remember it's like the military - you volunteered and signed up. You weren't begged to join nor were you even asked to join. You came aboard all on your own. Too me it seems like maybe you are just an anti-Hummer plant who joined to be a pain in the a$$. [sm=chairshot.gif] If you want to stick up for FJs and be a FU@%ING JACKO#@ (read FJ)[sm=boosign.gif]then do it elsewhere.If you want to spew world hugging 101 views then find another site. There are plenty of other forums for you. Thisis a Hummer site. It's not anti this or that but a site with real information and smart assed comments. If you don't like it - don't log on - and for crying out loud don't stay on as a member. Hope the info helps |
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Wow!! Looks like YJ raised the hair on some necks!! Not a good way to start off your membership. This is a nice community here. Lotsa nice people. As for the Doc, I think he's cool but sometimes the smilelies miss their intent.
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ORIGINAL: yellowjacket19 Surely you jest.. 3,500 posts proves your mouth over runs your ability to think. Settle down grease head.. A larger combustion chamber doesn't equate to a larger penis nor I.Q. Three further points of advice. 1) Never argue with an idiot, they have more experience (about 3,500 posts worth) 2) The smartest mouths come from the dumbest asses. 3) Dumb people talk the most, usually about nothing or endlessly about motorsports, hunting etc.... or answer every post like they are an EXPERT.. Let me guess you were lucky to graduate high school, you dream of the day you can buy spinners for our 4 x4, and you bitch about taxes yet you would be lucky to ever pay enough taxes to pay for the ten foot spot in front of your trailer house, which you tried to impress your fellow burp and fart crowd- last night by firing it up. I also see you having a cat name fluffy.... I got alot of great answers from others, but if this forum is about being in contactsomeone with the mind of a junior in high school smacking his meat about a "vehicle". well you can have it king grease head. Bye the way.. King Richard is not the ruler of our country - sorry to break your train of thought.... continue on...post another 3,500 mindless, know it all / know nothing abrasive posts... Enjoy your pulpit..... YAwn, yawn. ps- walmart has that Kraco 1000 watt stereo you ordered.. Jc witney your gas magnets... the pawn shop your guns, your wife has your balls, and your boss has your dignity.. Are you sure you have a h3??? You speak like your primary ride is a go kart with a 12 hp motor running on pure nitro I would guess.... Actually to awnser your question for Doc Olds, he's an Attorney by profession and he's a person who knows what he's talking about, I have personally met him and he is far from your abrasive claims. Now with that said, you sound like a troll... quite honestly, there is the door and please do not let it hit you on the way out. With that said, I hope you go with your little FJ cruiser, becasue when you hit the trails, I will be happy to point and laugh at you as your warranty has just been voided (go read up on it, toyota voids warranty for those driving offroad in FJ cruisers). It has to do wth the frame splitting from the rest of the car. Oh and for the record, before you spout off where cars are built in your global economy, the H3 is built using 98% american parts and built on american soil by american workers. The steel used for the plant is american steel and the plant was built using american workers. So please spare the crap about the global economy, us Americans are proud of products that are built here and supported here. If you want to go buy an FJ, be my guest, but please stop trolling here. |
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What? Watch this, I intend to put a smilie right here >>>> <<<<<. [&o] Bummer?
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