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Old 02-11-2011, 12:32 PM
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Godfather of Islamic Revolution?
by Dr. Mordechai Nisan
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Barack Hussein Obama may be the godfather of the Islamic revolution. The tempo and turmoil of regional events fit his agenda, and may be a result of his policies.



Radical transforming political developments in the Middle East and North Africa have given rise to criticism over the failure of President Obama’s foreign policy. Pro-American regimes, as in Tunisia and Egypt, have virtually been toppled by mass protest in the name of ending corruption and nepotism, and demanding liberty and democracy, economic justice and social welfare for lower impoverished classes.

Other regional leaders, like King Abdullah in Jordan, are targeted by popular opposition, and in Lebanon the Western-oriented Hariri government has been brought down. The U.S.-supported Palestinian Abu Mazen regime has come on hard times, with the Qatari Al-Jazeera campaign undermining its political legitimacy. Iran-supported Hamas is the beneficiary of this development.

This political collapse in the Middle East is seen as a colossal defeat for Obama and American interests. Washington’s allies have fallen, or are tottering, and hopes for moderation and stability seem to be shattered.

Obama’s True Agenda

Since entering the White House, Obama has been transparent in promoting his views and policies. In the domestic arena, he favors construction of a large mosque near Ground Zero though a majority of Americans oppose this controversial step; he favored a civilian trial for 9/11 terror planner Khalid Sheikh Mohammad despite popular views to the contrary; and he refused to describe the Fort Hood killing spree of thirteen soldiers by Muslim major Nidal Malik Hasan as a crime inspired by Islam.

The elevated status of Islam in America was already announced at Obama’s inaugural address when he referred to America as a nation of “Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus.” The Jews had been surpassed by Muslims in the politico-religious hierarchy, while later Obama speaking in the name of America stated that ‘We are no longer a Christian nation’. A clear instance of Islamic prioritization occurred when NASA’s new mandate was ordered by Obama to be outreach to Muslim countries, and to make them feel good about their contribution to science.

In world politics, Obama promised that America will never go to war against Islam. His first presidential visits to Cairo and Ankara illustrated his exceptional friendship for Muslim countries; he avoided visiting Jerusalem. His sanctions campaign against Iran was sluggish and his support for the reformist protest following the June 2009 elections muted. The ayatollahs could relax with Obama in the White House.

Meanwhile, Obama has now sent an ambassador to Damascus to restore relations with that rogue state that has been allowing Iran and Hizbullah to freely engage in weapons smuggling across Syria’s border into Lebanon. Recently on Obama’s watch, the Iranian republic’s surrogate terrorist subsidiary brought down the elected pro-Western government in Beirut.

And now we have reports that Washington was even involved earlier in supporting anti-Mubarak forces in Egypt, and when the massive street protests erupted in late January, Obama’s administration advised him to act with restraint and initiate reforms. This is a historical playback to Carter helping deliver Iran under the shah into the hands of ayatollah Khomeini.

Obama’s Islamic Paradigm Policy

There are different explanations of Obama’s policies and goals in the region. Some say he is poorly advised or that he is politically naïve. Perhaps he lacks judgment on strategic and political affairs in this rough Middle Eastern arena of precarious relations and duplicitous promises.

But a paradigm which fits Obama’s record suggests that the tempo and turmoil of regional events fit his agenda, and may be a result of his policies. As a son of a Muslim father, Obama is on course to promote Islamization at home and abroad. In the Middle East, where popular religious forces threaten authoritarian regimes, Obama has placed America on the side of Islam. His is a historical role in furthering the expansion of radical Shari’a Islam from his Oval Office in Washington. Hamas, while defined as a terrorist organization, received U.S. aid for the Gaza Strip under its rule.

Obama’s agenda is succeeding brilliantly with the very list of events considered his failures in foreign policy in facthighlighting his successes. Islamic takeovers in Lebanon and perhaps Egypt, maybe in Tunisia and Yemen, then Jordan, fulfill his vision in full glow. Thus, Egypt as a base of American strategy in the Middle East may be replaced by Egypt as a foundation for the spread of radical Islam in the world. When Obama bowed before the King of Saudi Arabia in April 2009, he was not showing respect for the monarchy but deference to the Guardian of the Holy Cities of Islam. Maybe over a few generations Washington will be added, along with Rome, to the list of Islamic sacred sites.

It is Obama’s radical liberalism and political leftism that bamboozle an appreciation of his Islamic agenda. After all, his support or sympathy for homosexuality and gay marriage, certainly abortion, is incongruent with Islamic law and custom. Yet President Obama stands simultaneously for Islamand liberalism, and the radical rupturing of traditional America can dialectically advance the process over the long-run for the victory of Islam. A morally fractured and spiritually distraught America will lead more of its young people, as is already happening, to embrace Islam. So too, Obama’s call for liberty and democracy in the Arab world, as in Egypt, can enable the revolution by Islam.

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Old 02-15-2011, 03:09 PM
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Wow, the author of that article is a jackass. He probably wrote it during his last alien abduction, and plans to use it as part of his resume for a job on False News....I mean Fox News.

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Damn Semper, you drunk on the KoolAid? The author goes overboard to a degree but Obama is clearly not someone with this country's best interest in mind. 2012 can't come soon enough.
 
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Oh no, not at all. I just find it hard to stomach ultra-conservativism, or ultra-liberalism. I don't agree with everything that the president has done, or how he did it, but I don't with any president. I think that since the president took office there has been a conservative paranoia not unlike what drove people to build home fallout shelters in the 50's, and networks like Fox perpetuate this with fear based "journalism". With that said, I'll never turn to MSNBC either because it's the liberal equivalent of Fox, and gets ridiculously close to "show news" itself.

As for radical islam (with a small "I"), there is NOTHING that the president has don, or is doing to promote that. It should not even be in the same class or category of discussion with the religion of Islam (with the large "I"). Most people who spew that garbage like in that article know nothing about it, and spread it to others who know nothing about it. People should educate themselves BEFORE opening their mouths. It's easy to play armchair quarterback and criticize the president for things without knowing the full scope of the circumstances shaping and driving decisions. We've been living under a "BOS", Blame Obama Syndrome since the day he took office, much of which is driven by religious bias, racism, and fear. It's like the JFK election on steroids. The nation as a whole needs to take a "chill pill" and work together to return to greatness. Perhaps we can learn from the Japanese on how to do that.
 
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:23 AM
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I would classify my views as conservative ( but not ultra conservative ) I can't think of much of anything Obama has done or tried to do that I agree with. It has nothing to do with racism, ignorance and fanaticism. Health care is something you work for and earn for yourself, not something the government gives you( and the rest of us pay for ), I don't believe in income redistribution, I think the "progressive greenies" are off the charts on environmentalism, etc, etc, etc. Humans are the dominant species on the planet and our existence cannot have zero impact on the environment we live in. Regardless we can disagree but you cast a broad net with your accusations on why people don't agree with Obama. The people I know have legitimate philosophical differences with the man and it has nothing to do with anything Limbuagh or Olberman had to say.
 
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:42 AM
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Please point out to me the broad net you're talking about. I never said everyone or everything. Read my post. I don't accuse anyone of anything. My exact terminology is "much of which is driven by..." Who did I accuse, and where is the broad net in that statement?
 
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"Most people who spew that garbage like in that article know nothing about it, and spread it to others who know nothing about it. "

I took that statement to be rather broad. Most of the people that I know that disagree with Obama's policies tend to be highly educated, politically engaged, issues aware type people. They aren't prone to take a position on anything that they haven't informed themselves on to their own satisfaction. Hannity is a broken record as are Olberman, Maddow, et al. Intelligent people have to dig a little deeper to find the real truth on any topic.
 
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"If I think that a good chunk of people's opinions about president Obama are based on fear, bias, and racism, yes I'm radical.
If I think that the term "Christian Conservative" is an oxy-moron because the two philosophies conflict with one another, then yes I'm radical.

We can send billions of dollars in aid to foreign countries to help their people, but when it comes to helping our own citizens it becomes too expensive. Just how Christian is that? "
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Taking your posts from both threads to illustrate the point I repeat that I don't know anyone that has a difference of opinion with Obama based on his race or bias against him. Yes I do know some, myself included, that fear the damage he could/is doing to this country and its future through his unchecked spending, pathetic foriegn policy and total lack of leadership.
Why is " Christian Conservative " an oxymoron? I am a Christian and a conservative. I donate significant amounts of money to charity each year. The difference is I choose where I donate my money and what causes to support. The fact that I don't want to buy someone else's health care insurance, support midnight basketball, ACORN, NPR, etc doesn't make me heartless, cold and uncaring. It makes me informed. I don't believe the government has any business being involved in most of the functions they have co-opted to date. Why is the government involved in my retirement, healthcare, etc? Not their role. If we had a court system worth a damn most of this would have been dealt with long ago. We have a government that picks and chooses which laws to enforce and whom to enforce then against. We have a court system that practices politics instead of the law, we have lawmakers that don't have a clue as to the limits placed on their authority by the Constitution and a populace that has grown so complacent that they don't demand that our government live by the limits placed on its authority.
So if you read back through your posts maybe you will concur that your choice of words might lead someone to believe that you are a little further to the left than you claim and a little more of an idealogue than you realize. Regardless the perception is what it is.
 
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I don't think that I'm that far left. Perhaps center-left, but not extreme left. I do think that we spend too much money assisting people in other countries, and that our primary focus should be on making American society most livable for all of us. It's the "us and them" attitude that's killing us politically. Most would rather point fingers and lay blame rather than work together toward what the two sides do agree on. Labeling people as socialists, and trying to paint them as un-American just because they have a different philosophy is just plain wrong no matter how you cut it. It's our diversity that has made this country great, but some use that diversity to separate people. Whether it's where the president was born, his spiritual beliefs, or what he studied in college; all these things have been used BY SOME to paint him as un-American. From the very beginning, it was like pulling teeth to get people to say "president" before his last name. They would emphasize his middle name in an attempt to create negativity more than respect him as president. There was just that much disrespect in the air before his butt even warmed a chair in the Oval Office. I'll be 50 this year, and I don't recall any other president in my lifetime who has had to even go through that. If we were all held accountable for the things we said or did as young people trying to find our identities, half the country would be in jail. As for the Christian thing, I happen to know that more people profess to be Christians than those who actually practice it. Too often people's political views trump their Christian values because those values are not strong enough to make them do what is right from a Christian perspective. This applies to both sides of the isle.

I think mst people are either center-left, or center-right. The folks who lean too far either way are dangerous, but guess what? They're still American.
 


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