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wbaird 11-20-2012 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Hunner (Post 287052)
Your post of this is the first time I saw the resistor fix. I guess I never saw or was not interested whenever it was first posted.
I would like to thank you for posting it recently. It seems to be happening more often to more people. It happened to me and I did the fix.
Since I see people asking about it I thought I would post how I did it to help those needing more info. It's great to have people with a common interest getting together to fix things.

The procedure here is the HUNNER method of installing it. Proceed at your own risk.
  • I did not disconnect the battery as I wanted to confirm this resistor fixed it instead of by some fluke disconnecting the battery did.
  • Set the parking brake. Turn the key on.
  • It helps to shift to Low. However leaving the key on will drive you nuts so after removing the dash piece I put it back in park.
  • Disconnecting the battery would of course shut the dinger bell off. So I would recommend that and you can leave it in low to have more room, now that we know this did fix it. (fingers crossed)
  • First you have to do the stick your fingers in the DC sockets and pull up and out.
  • I cut me a piece of cardboard for a work surface in case solder dropped.
  • I disconnected the plug from the back of the switch to get more room to work
  • Find the light blue wire with black stripe. I peeled back the high quality gooey sticky black electrical tape GM chose to use far enough to expose the wire back into the loom so I could slide on some shrink wrap long enough to cover the splice.
  • Call me old school, I'm old and went to school, but just as in my battery thread I make a physical connection first then solder.
  • I used some forceps for a heat sink.
  • I used a Radio Shack 68 ohm 1/2 watt resistor. They come 5 to a pack for $1.30 or $.26 a piece.
  • If you don't know, use a low wattage iron so as not to fry the insulation on each end. Heat the wire until it pulls some solder as you feed it.
  • Use some fine solder, Radio Shack still has that!
  • Grabbed a short piece of shrink wrap I keep around. After the solder area cools slide the shrink wrap you remembered to slide on BEFORE you soldered over the entire splice. Use a heat gun carefully to shrink the wrap and secure and insulate your splice. I did not re-tape it at this time as I wanted to test it first. I will use a high grade of black electrical tape or some loom.
Now in transitional fall weather you can adjust the air temp but leave on the air conditioning to freshen your cabin temp and humidity!
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...ucket/7389.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...ucket/7391.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...ucket/7392.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...ucket/7396.jpg


I have a 2008 H3. The HVAC control knob is located close to driver's side, Whenever I move the knob off the a/c setting, it immediately allows hot air to enter into the vehicle. Will the above fix that? Or do I need to order and replace the HVAC control? :confused:

Appreciate the help with this. :)

Regards

Bill

Gearhead Garage 11-21-2012 08:34 AM

this is the fix that you want to do. it has been a few weeks since I have done the fix and everything is working great.

wbaird 11-21-2012 10:06 AM

GG

Thanks very much for the reply

stwip2006 07-27-2013 05:07 PM

AC temp control
 
I have the same problem on my 2006 H3. One click off the coldest position and it starts to blow hot air like our politicians. It's NOT the resister. There is two control actuators behind the radio console. To get to them you have to remove the black plastic facia under the steering column. The one right in front of your knees. To make it much easier to access the actuators, remove the steel cross member. Don't take out the radio 'cause you still can't get to them. I haven't fixed mine yet 'cause I live in Florida so I want the damned thing to blow cold air.:(

thedave8 09-12-2013 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by wbaird (Post 288175)
I have a 2008 H3. The HVAC control knob is located close to driver's side, Whenever I move the knob off the a/c setting, it immediately allows hot air to enter into the vehicle. Will the above fix that? Or do I need to order and replace the HVAC control? :confused:

Appreciate the help with this. :)

Regards

Bill

This is exactly what mine is doing... It worked perfectly until I replaced my battery, now blows cold set on cold, one click towards warm it goes full hot...... What gives?

Du47fl 09-22-2013 09:49 AM

A/C repairs
 
The Hunner resistor fix is real, corrected my issue and saved me $$$ verse what the dealer wanted to replace the control unit. Thanks Hunner for the great posting.
Du47fl

supsam86 09-24-2013 10:46 AM

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I've fixed this problem on two H3's. I trust Hunner's opinion and the resistor thing makes sense, but I've never done it. My experience has always been that it's a stuck actuator. There are 3 actuators (little motors that open and close HVAC doors) mounted above the driver's side of the transmission tunnel, to the right of the gas peddle and up. If you stick your head by the loud peddle and look right and up you can see them.

See diagram below. The #30 closest to the driver has always been the culprit for me.

Attachment 12514

The first one I fixed, I just replaced it with a new actuator and that fixed it.

On my second one, I accidentally ordered #32 and I didn't want to wait for shipping again, so I carefully opened the case on the #30 actuator to see how it was put together.

It's basically just an electric motor with a couple gears. I could see that the gears were binding, so I lifted the motor gear off the drive gear, turned it one notch/tooth (so that when it was installed the door it moves would be slightly opened), and re-installed. After that it worked perfectly.

I think what happened was the motor slightly over-rotated, had something keeping it from closing completely, or something like that and was causing some kind of error. I'm not really sure how that translates to only having hot or cold, but I'm sure the computers are designed to react to a jammed actuator to prevent damage and once the gear wasn't jammed anymore, it's worked perfectly for over a year.

If I were you, I'd try Hunner's idea first because it's alot easier and cheaper, and if that doesn't work, try replacing the actuator. I don't recommend dissecting the actuator like I did, I probably got really lucky.

Good luck!

thedave8 09-26-2013 09:06 AM

I swapped the two actuators because they are the same part #.... Still same hot issue so I'd say that eliminates it as being an actuator... I'm gonna do the resistor deal this weekend

Hunner 09-26-2013 11:33 PM

Again, I can't take credit for the resistor fix.
It came from ADVENTURE ACESSORIES (his spelling)
I just wrote it up for the H3 application with pictures.

Glad to see others having this work for them.

redneckhoosier 10-23-2013 01:04 PM

Another happy customer of this solution. 30 minutes max today.

worknit 10-23-2013 01:39 PM

THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!

Same symptom of one notch high heat symptom.
Repair time start to finish <15 minutes.
SOLUTION VERIFIED

rsc 10-23-2013 09:27 PM

I've been looking for this thread for over a week! Should have searched A/C and not "heater". doh. Well, now I know what I'm doing this weekend. :D

kavik 11-03-2013 01:09 AM

Just fixed mine by following the instructions. $2.00 for resistors + cheap 9.88 radio shack soldering kit = success

happythree 11-03-2013 04:28 AM

my 2.5 cents
 
first,from earlier,

It helps to shift to Low. However leaving the key on will drive you nuts so after removing the dash piece I put it back in park.
Disconnecting the battery would of course shut the dinger bell off. So I would recommend that and you can leave it in low to have more room, now that we know this did fix it. (fingers crossed
a simple mod lets you shift out of park with no batt,no key, no brake ,just shift like the old days. then if you're stuck dead you can move. jfwiw.
just kill the shift solenoid at the shifter. like stuck in garage with dead batt,or worse, on the rr tracks!
now my q?,
was this fixed in 08/09 or might I need it in my 09 at some point?

btw #2, there are two motors, left and right heat! I guess you could get fancy and make dual controls! let the girls have all the heat they want huh. actually the 3rd motor is mode control.


btw,as I look at the wiring,this problem would affect the "mode" control position as well. anybody notice a shift in the mode control? b4 you fixed this?

thedave8 11-03-2013 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by kavik (Post 304008)
Just fixed mine by following the instructions. $2.00 for resistors + cheap 9.88 radio shack soldering kit = success

Did the exact same thing! Their 9$ solder iron kit was perfect.... Came with iron, heat sinc clamp, solder, and tin stand for iron! All ya need!

RGD 11-08-2013 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Hunner (Post 287052)
Your post of this is the first time I saw the resistor fix. I guess I never saw or was not interested whenever it was first posted.
I would like to thank you for posting it recently. It seems to be happening more often to more people. It happened to me and I did the fix.
Since I see people asking about it I thought I would post how I did it to help those needing more info. It's great to have people with a common interest getting together to fix things.

The procedure here is the HUNNER method of installing it. Proceed at your own risk.
  • I did not disconnect the battery as I wanted to confirm this resistor fixed it instead of by some fluke disconnecting the battery did.
  • Set the parking brake. Turn the key on.
  • It helps to shift to Low. However leaving the key on will drive you nuts so after removing the dash piece I put it back in park.
  • Disconnecting the battery would of course shut the dinger bell off. So I would recommend that and you can leave it in low to have more room, now that we know this did fix it. (fingers crossed)
  • First you have to do the stick your fingers in the DC sockets and pull up and out.
  • I cut me a piece of cardboard for a work surface in case solder dropped.
  • I disconnected the plug from the back of the switch to get more room to work
  • Find the light blue wire with black stripe. I peeled back the high quality gooey sticky black electrical tape GM chose to use far enough to expose the wire back into the loom so I could slide on some shrink wrap long enough to cover the splice.
  • Call me old school, I'm old and went to school, but just as in my battery thread I make a physical connection first then solder.
  • I used some forceps for a heat sink.
  • I used a Radio Shack 68 ohm 1/2 watt resistor. They come 5 to a pack for $1.30 or $.26 a piece.
  • If you don't know, use a low wattage iron so as not to fry the insulation on each end. Heat the wire until it pulls some solder as you feed it.
  • Use some fine solder, Radio Shack still has that!
  • Grabbed a short piece of shrink wrap I keep around. After the solder area cools slide the shrink wrap you remembered to slide on BEFORE you soldered over the entire splice. Use a heat gun carefully to shrink the wrap and secure and insulate your splice. I did not re-tape it at this time as I wanted to test it first. I will use a high grade of black electrical tape or some loom.
Now in transitional fall weather you can adjust the air temp but leave on the air conditioning to freshen your cabin temp and humidity!
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...ucket/7389.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...ucket/7391.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...ucket/7392.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...ucket/7396.jpg

A big thank you to the person who came up with the inline 68 ohm resistor fix to correct the temp control problem. Yes it fixed the problem. Cost to fix this was $1.65. Thank you

rsc 11-08-2013 02:27 PM

Dang it! I overpaid, mine cost $1.68. ;)

OrangeTexan 11-13-2013 07:55 PM

Just bought an 08 alpha. And discovered that it had this problem. Took it back to the dealer and they replaced the control unit. Sounds like there is something in the Portugal units that is weak and is popping with regular use and a battery disconnect / reconnect can also damage it. The resistor trick or replacing the unit with a Mexico unit seems to correct the problem.

rwbaty 10-04-2014 08:37 PM

Thanks for the how to on the resistor fix. This fixed my problem and is a fairly easy and quick fix. Great pics to thanks.

atari800 10-18-2014 02:22 PM

This fix worked for me too.
For those that never took off console before (and to make it clearer for 1st timers)...

Put fingers in 2 outlets and pull up and out
If will feel like there are clips above the radio - there isnt
but the ac vents are sleeves that slide into a duct
so once you get the bottom disconnected, pinch a vent slot thing and pull forward
then disconnect wires as needed

stwip2006 11-18-2014 01:03 PM

A/C temp control
 
Just completed the resistor installation. Much easier than than I thought and much, much cheaper than a complete control unit replacement. 1 pack of Radio Shack resistors; $2.68, 1 hour time to perform, shrink tubing, heat gun and soldering pencil (low watt). Easy! Result, no freezing or cooking my ass off when I want some air recirc. Up yours GM!

saiyoot 09-14-2015 01:22 AM

I am in Thailand and have had a very hard time getting this specific A/C issue fixed. This thread is awesome. I followed the instruction with a resister modification to HVAC wire. It worked great! The temperature control can be adjust accordingly now. Thank you so much for sharing the information.

AverageWeekend 08-30-2016 11:55 AM

I did the resistor fix last night on my 2007 H3x and it worked like a charm!

That was my first time removing the center panel. I left all of the connectors attached except for the one that I had to work on. In hindsight, I probably would have disconnected all the plugs and set the center dash panel to the side....because having the connectors attached left for a TIGHT workspace. I felt like I was standing on my head at times getting a soldering iron in there and everything.

Note: I know this a semi-necro-bump and the forum discourages that. But this thread is the real deal and still contains a valuable/relevant fix.

nelsontj 11-16-2016 07:40 AM

Did mine yesterday afternoon and it worked like a champ!

TechnoSean 10-03-2019 09:50 AM

Reviving old thread. Anyone try a resistor on the mode control for a similar issue
 

Originally Posted by nelsontj (Post 340258)
Did mine yesterday afternoon and it worked like a champ!

we have a 2007 h3 (original owners), and I just did the resistor trick. Worked great for the temp control. I noticed that before i installed the resistor basically 2 of the 3 actuators would move a complete 90 degrees as soon as I moved the temp one click from coldest. I am having a similar issue where moving the mode one click from the left sends all of the air to the windshield, so I assume that actuator is doing the same thing. Would installing a 68ohm resistor in-line to one of the wires on mode control fix this? If so any clue which wire?

Doc Olds 10-03-2019 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by TechnoSean (Post 365146)
we have a 2007 h3 (original owners), and I just did the resistor trick. Worked great for the temp control. I noticed that before i installed the resistor basically 2 of the 3 actuators would move a complete 90 degrees as soon as I moved the temp one click from coldest. I am having a similar issue where moving the mode one click from the left sends all of the air to the windshield, so I assume that actuator is doing the same thing. Would installing a 68ohm resistor in-line to one of the wires on mode control fix this? If so any clue which wire?

Have you have the HVAC recall performed yet? Also keep in mind this thread is OLD and we frown upon digging up old threads.

READ: Old Threads/'Necro-Bumping'

TechnoSean 10-03-2019 01:43 PM

:).
 

Originally Posted by Doc Olds (Post 365150)
Have you have the HVAC recall performed yet? Also keep in mind this thread is OLD and we frown upon digging up old threads.

READ: Old Threads/'Necro-Bumping'

Doc would you rather I start an entirely new thread on an existing very well documented issue? That makes zero sense despite your frowning.

that being said, the recall is just on the hvac resistor behind the glove box, correct? I actually replaced that a year before the recall myself because the blower stopped working, and I noticed how totally fried that thing was. I’m shocked our h3 didn’t have a fire. The blower works fine, temp works fine now, but the mode control does not.

Red Bluff 11-12-2022 05:46 PM

Thanks
 
Burnt Blower Motor Control Module/Resistor and connector for me.
I'm ordering the parts, should be good to go real soon.
Thanks!

Numb 12-29-2022 06:30 PM

I have replaced my blend door and still does not work.. Only way my heat will work is cranked all the way up on 90 degrees turn it down to 89 degrees and it blows cold not a/c cold but cold. I don’t know other than changing the thermostat in the head liner which I guess will be my next step to solving this issue. Any help?

ThiagoBrasil 08-23-2023 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Hunner (Post 287052)
Your post of this is the first time I saw the resistor fix. I guess I never saw or was not interested whenever it was first posted.
I would like to thank you for posting it recently. It seems to be happening more often to more people. It happened to me and I did the fix.
Since I see people asking about it I thought I would post how I did it to help those needing more info. It's great to have people with a common interest getting together to fix things.

The procedure here is the HUNNER method of installing it. Proceed at your own risk.
  • I did not disconnect the battery as I wanted to confirm this resistor fixed it instead of by some fluke disconnecting the battery did.
  • Set the parking brake. Turn the key on.
  • It helps to shift to Low. However leaving the key on will drive you nuts so after removing the dash piece I put it back in park.
  • Disconnecting the battery would of course shut the dinger bell off. So I would recommend that and you can leave it in low to have more room, now that we know this did fix it. (fingers crossed)
  • First you have to do the stick your fingers in the DC sockets and pull up and out.
  • I cut me a piece of cardboard for a work surface in case solder dropped.
  • I disconnected the plug from the back of the switch to get more room to work
  • Find the light blue wire with black stripe. I peeled back the high quality gooey sticky black electrical tape GM chose to use far enough to expose the wire back into the loom so I could slide on some shrink wrap long enough to cover the splice.
  • Call me old school, I'm old and went to school, but just as in my battery thread I make a physical connection first then solder.
  • I used some forceps for a heat sink.
  • I used a Radio Shack 68 ohm 1/2 watt resistor. They come 5 to a pack for $1.30 or $.26 a piece.
  • If you don't know, use a low wattage iron so as not to fry the insulation on each end. Heat the wire until it pulls some solder as you feed it.
  • Use some fine solder, Radio Shack still has that!
  • Grabbed a short piece of shrink wrap I keep around. After the solder area cools slide the shrink wrap you remembered to slide on BEFORE you soldered over the entire splice. Use a heat gun carefully to shrink the wrap and secure and insulate your splice. I did not re-tape it at this time as I wanted to test it first. I will use a high grade of black electrical tape or some loom.
Now in transitional fall weather you can adjust the air temp but leave on the air conditioning to freshen your cabin temp and humidity!
Attachment 13411
Attachment 13412
Attachment 13413
Attachment 13414

I'm from Brazil and your diagram helped me a lot, I put the resistor and solved the problem in my hummer h3 air conditioner. Thank you so much, God enlightens you!

Doc Olds 08-23-2023 09:57 AM

Glad this OLD Thread could help, but you should have saved us the dinosaur resurrection.......... :rolleyes:


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