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ORIGINAL: importkiller

Final crawl ratio H2-33.12:1 RUBI - 65.92:1

approach  H2 - 40.8 - 42.8  RUBI - 44.3
Departure H2 - 39.6 - 40.0  RUBI - 40.4
Breakover H2 - 25.8 - 27.5 RUBI 25.4 (Less on 4 door)
Ground clearance - H2 9.7  RUBI - 10.1
I think the h2 only has one locker, an eaton rear locker....RUBI has two.

So the Rubi has a much better crawl ratio...the h2 crawl ratio isn't all that great at all, in fact the h3 has a better crawl ratio than the h2...the Rubi is better in every other catagory than the h2 other than breakover angle...so why is the h2 better than a rubi again? And the h2 will NEVER become a popular trail machine even when they get cheap used ones on teh market because anyone building  trail rig will want a solid front axle...an IFS will never be as good as a SFA and most avid offroaders realize this. Now that bieng said I of course would take an h2 over a rubi for an all around vehicle but they were built for two different things. I don't really see what the arguement here is, the h2 wasn't made to be an all out off road machine like the rubi was, the numbers prove it.
again, not bieng a dik..I like both, just pointing out the facts is all.

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ORIGINAL: HumminNBoatin

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ORIGINAL: importkiller

Mind you the Adventure has Air Ride/Height adjustable suspension specifically designed to increase ground clearance during offroading.  not the case at all, although it can be used that way.  the reason for the air ride was for towing, in order to eliminate the rear end sag.  it was not put there for offroading, as it is constantly in use trying to keep the vehicle level.  in fact, it's a pain in the ass on the trail, and i'm damn glad i don't have it on the bus.

I think the h2 only has one locker, an eaton rear locker....RUBI has two.--Hummer does not require front locker as is uses BTM to put the power where it is needed.  How the hell can a Hummer use BTM?  BTM is Brake Throttle Modulation, controlled solely by the driver, and can be done in my daughter's honda civic, which ain't exactly an offroad beast.  the only thing the H2 has that could help the front wheels off road is the TCS, and that will typically grenade your front diff if you're in 4LO.
 

For Example:
Towing: H2 can tow 8200lbs and Rubi---Get ready a whopping 2000lbs **When properly Equiped**  the manual is full of $hit concerning towing capacity and i don't see what that has to do with offroad comparisons, which is what the thread was about. let's keep the conversation centered.

Payload: H2 can haul 2,200lbs and Rubi--921 lbs.  Wow so you can take 3 of your buddies with you and no gear!!!!!  again, who cares, that isn't the point of the argument.
 
So like I stated earlier, the H2 will pretty much go anywhere the the Rubi can go.  except on trails that it won't fit between the trees or boulders.  i can go places the rubi can't go (stop wttin' yourself impy) and the rubi can do the same thing.  just a simple fact, deal with it.

this whole argument is a total load of $hit.  2 totally different vehicles with nothing in common other than the fact that they inspire loyalty and rivalry.  and if you're going to argue, at least have your facts straight. 
 
both of you get no supper before bed - now go sit in the corner.
 
 
 
     

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umm...How is a rubicon wrangler more capable than an H2 or H1.  I cannot imagine the Approach and Departure can be better on a rubicon?  Or the ground clearence?  I am talking stock from the factory.  I am assuming maybe you are comparing the h3 to the rubicon? Also I assume that you do own both vehicles

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Keep in mind as well im sure that while the Rubi has better angles this does not Immediatly mean it has better bumper ground clearance.  Also the angel differences are so minor that they are realy irrelivant. 

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ORIGINAL: importkiller
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