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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/10/2007 1:16:35 PM

importkiller

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the rubicon is better offroad for a few huge reasons...first and most important the Rubi and all wranglers use a solid front axle, 100X's better than IFS(independant front suspension) that the hummer uses. Any honest wheeler knows that IFS trucks are limited in what they can do offroad. Second the rubi offers front and rear lockers,electronic sway bar disconnect , and a few other little gizmos that are off road oriented....I'm not knocking the hummer line at all..I love my h3 and will always own a hummer...just stating that they run a close second to the Rubicon.

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/10/2007 1:28:32 PM

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I think there will be aftermarket front lockers available (when being the question), I have seen blurbs in the off road fodder that it is being looked into. Somebody posted a thread about a quick disconnect rear sway bar set up for the 3, I could find it if I wanted to look. Not gonna do much about straight axle in the front though, we are stuck with the IFS, smoother for on road. I gotta go drive one of them 4Dr Wranglers just to check it out, wonder if they mind if it comes back covered in mud???? There is a monster construction site only a couple miles from the Jeep dealer near me.

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/10/2007 1:35:02 PM

importkiller

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if you go drive one, just be aware that you will only be driving the motor at about 75% power as the computer has a break in cycle for 500 miles until it gives out 100% power. If the locker for the front is a 4low max 15mph like the rear then it will be useless just like the stock rear locker. Some people use lockers for higher speed stuff ...not just crawling rocks. That was my main reasoning for not buying the adventure package.

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/10/2007 1:42:00 PM

Doc Olds

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It goes to 20mph professor, but I note your point as a good one.

Here is a serious question for ya. Do you think the four door Rubi is better than the 2 door for most situations?? I don't mean hauling more people/stuff, I mean terraine wise. Many times a little longer wheel base is better, but not always. What ya think of that????

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/10/2007 2:03:54 PM

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this is quite the argument

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/10/2007 4:12:45 PM

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How is a longer wheelbase an advantage?

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/10/2007 4:50:08 PM

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I don't hate Jeeps... I hate Jeep owners.... and not all of them just the ones that think they bought something that bone stock is Rubicon Ready.... it is not a rare type either... I meet them all the time.... I like to wheel... and having owned a few 4x4's the Hummer is the best overall that I have ever owned.... bone stock.

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/10/2007 7:23:30 PM

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so gooch, i'm having trouble deciding if you're a troll or not. you say you own an H2, but it seems every post i've seen you start has some sort of antagonistic theme going on. are you just here to start $hit, or to pick up some insight on your H2? or do you already know it all and want to share with us?

btw, impy is a dik and that's why he loves imports and jeeps.

but you kow i still luv ya bro . . . . . .

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/11/2007 9:49:57 AM

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Nope not a troll at all. Just trying to gain some insight. I'm not the one who said either or was better, just asking the obvious questions.

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/11/2007 12:45:22 PM

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I doubt gooch is a troll because he didnt say anything like "well jeeps are a lot better than hummers" or "the FJ can outperform the hummer in every way"

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/12/2007 11:30:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: importkiller

in some situations yes weight will give you an advantage...some times, the lighter the better. Anyone that says a hummer is more capable than a rubicon is very misinformed.

umm...How is a rubicon wrangler more capable than an H2 or H1. I cannot imagine the Approach and Departure can be better on a rubicon? Or the ground clearence? I am talking stock from the factory. I am assuming maybe you are compairing the h3 to the rubicon? Also I assume that you do own both vehicles?

EDIT: Sorry as I did not see all of the posts b4 I posted this.

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/12/2007 6:14:53 PM

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seriously..... jeeps are awesome.... especially in the treacherous mini mart parking lots....

I'll never forget the day Injun posted this.... I saved it and have forwarded it 100 times

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/12/2007 6:33:59 PM

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I had a 04 Rubicon before I got my 06 H3 both were stock and were pretty even in my winter environment up here in Nova Scotia,but my 07 H2 is a beast in any snow we get

Heres my old rubi

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/13/2007 8:50:33 AM

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That Mall Crawler pic is too funny. I know its not a HUMMER but I Nominate that guy for ROTM!!!!!!

Calling out Doc! Can we do that??!!??!!!??

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RE: Jeep Owners - 10/13/2007 9:52:26 AM

importkiller

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Doc, I don't know about the longer wh-eel-bas-e bieng- better or not off-roading...I know that there are certain situations where each have it's advantages...for the wheeling I do I have not seen the longer wheelbase bieng a problem.

I'm not a jeep loving dik..I drive both and I wheel both...sorry but the h3 is not as good as the rubicon and the h2 is too big to be a serious trail machine....for open wheeling, yes the h2 is awesome....but I wheel many trails that an h2 just will not make...and that is why the h2 just isn't seen as an offroading machine in most off road circles....check out any off road publication and see how many articles are done about the h2...not many and that is why. Talking about how good it does in snow on your way to work does not make a truck an off road machine....it means that the truck is HEAVY,WIDE, has a good 4x4 system and has good tires. Completely different than what would make it a good off road truck. Again I am not saying that the h2 or h3 are bad...not at all, for what they do they do it well. Look at it this way...take 100 possible off-road situations and list what stock vehicles could do what ones....the Rubicon will have more yes marks on that list than any other vehicle stock......even the h1...this is a fact just on size alone. This makes it the best all around stock off-roader available...pretty easy to see actually. And yes the stock Rubi CAN AND DID go through the rubicon with no breakage and NOTHING added to the trucks...JP magazine took 2 stock JK rubicons from the factory and made it the whole way through and had no issues. They did add a winch to be safe but that's just common sence. So there

Sorry for the -'s...my son was pushing buttons as I was typing.

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