RE: H3..poser, or serious off-road rig?
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RE: H3..poser, or serious off-road rig? - 12/25/2007 2:33:19 AM
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TheGunnyRet
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GM owns AM General num nuts. Oh, I guess Rod Hall Racing/Team Hummer which races all three types proves its an incapable fourwheeler. Don't see any FJ's winning Baja 1000 stock class etc.... I can't believe all of this stupid propaganda/hate against Hummers. These vehicles are modeled from one of the most capable offroad platforms in the world other than the Kiaser Jeep. I mean think about it, the FJ wants to look like a Hummer, as well the Liberty, Land Rover (is sort of a class of its own), before the Hummer everything aspired to look like a Jeep. Even now the Japanese are trying to get into the Full size truck market to get a piece of something they never had.
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RE: H3..poser, or serious off-road rig? - 12/25/2007 6:36:11 AM
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The safety factor alone should be enough to make up your mine, not just whether or not the frames have issues which i don't think are any more apt to happen than any other vehicle. think about every day driving and being able to walk away from a crash safely.
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RE: H3..poser, or serious off-road rig? - 12/27/2007 10:45:54 AM
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GM owns AM General num nuts. Oh, I guess Rod Hall Racing/Team Hummer which races all three types proves its an incapable fourwheeler. Don't see any FJ's winning Baja 1000 stock class etc.... I can't believe all of this stupid propaganda/hate against Hummers. These vehicles are modeled from one of the most capable offroad platforms in the world other than the Kiaser Jeep. I mean think about it, the FJ wants to look like a Hummer, as well the Liberty, Land Rover (is sort of a class of its own), before the Hummer everything aspired to look like a Jeep. Even now the Japanese are trying to get into the Full size truck market to get a piece of something they never had.
Really? when did GM Buy AM General? I must have missed that.... I remember GM buying the rights to Hummer from AM General but dont recall GM buying AM General.... as for being modeled after the HMMWV I disagree. Now I am not putting down the H2 or H3 they are capable vehicles I am just saying they are nothing like the HMMWV besides the 7 slotted grill.
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RE: H3..poser, or serious off-road rig? - 12/27/2007 11:40:56 AM
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I might have not been specific enough, the only thing modeled after the H1 to the H2 & H3 is the grill monicker as you had correctly noted.
"The Hummer H1 shares some common driveline parts with its HMMWV brethren. Items like brakes, differentials, frame and major body panels (hood, tailgate and quarter panels) are identical between the HMMWV and the Hummer H1. All Hummer H1s and HMMWVs come off the same first stage assembly line, and then are separated midway to either become a military HMMWV or a civilian H1."
"The Hummer H1 was a civilian off-road vehicle based on the M998 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV, or Humvee), which was created by AM General. The vehicle was produced from 1992 through 2006, and was the first of what became the Hummer line."
"General Motors acquiring exclusive rights to "Hummer" brand name
Detroit -- General Motors announced today it has signed a memorandum
of understanding with AM General Corp. to explore future product,
marketing and distribution opportunities. With a final agreement GM
will acquire the ownership of the HUMMER brand name world-wide, for
present and future opportunities. GM will assume responsibility for
marketing and distributing the HUMMER vehicles to retail and
commercial customers in 2000.
"Few brands in the last ten years have made the impact and created the
kind of focused marketing excitement as HUMMER," said Ron Zarrella,
GM North America president. "Our new agreement presents us with the
opportunity to build on this foundation in a variety of ways to reach
new customers."
GM and AM General do not anticipate any immediate changes to the
current HUMMER retail dealer arrangements. Under the proposed
agreement AM General will continue to manufacture the HUMMER at
its UAW represented plant in Mishawaka, Ind. AM General will retain
rights to market and distribute the High Mobility Multi-purpose
Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) for military applications.
Recent business activities between GM and AM General include AM
General's purchase and licensing agreement of GM's 6.5-liter diesel
engine business. Under the recent engine agreement, AM General is
taking over production of GM's 6.5-liter diesel engine and will
manufacture the engine at a facility to be determined.
The engine business agreement also provides that AM General will
supply service engines to GM's internal parts distributor, Service
Parts Operations (SPO), for a period of ten years. In addition, AM
General began offering GMAC's popular SmartLease program on its
new 1999 HUMMER vehicles.
AM General, headquartered in South Bend, Ind., is a privately held
company owned by New York City based Renco Group, Inc. AM
General is a leader in designing and manufacturing light and medium
duty trucks for military and government use. AM General makes the
military HMMWV and civilian HUMMER models. The HUMMER has
been offered to retail and commercial customers since 1992 through a
comprehensive worldwide network of dealers."
"The program was cancelled May 12, 2006 because GM decided to withdraw technical and financial support for future engineering and recertification."
< Message edited by TheGunnyRet -- 12/27/2007 11:57:05 AM >
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RE: H3..poser, or serious off-road rig? - 12/27/2007 4:26:10 PM
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I know people take the Fjs off road but I have never seen one in the dirt. I have seen a few that looked like they had all the off road accessories but they were clean as a whistle. Did Toyota ever start warranting the cracked frames??????
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