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RE: Sky Dive - 9/26/2007 9:04:28 PM
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importkiller
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Zyne is away for a bit...forgot why...I think I heard that he has been ill....Mike (hummerguy) where is he, you would know more than us.
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/28/2007 1:24:22 PM
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ZYNE
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Doode ... what's up with that lump on your back man? Took your boyfriend along for the ride or something!? Or was he just there as a vomit trap!? LMAO!
Sorry, my old habits are coming back out here... so used to giving 1st time tandem jumpers crap lol! I took great pleasure in mind-fukking 1st timers on the lift up ... and there ain't nothing like running out the back of the tailgate screaming "EEEEEEEEEEEEEENGIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRE" as the last man out before the 1st time tandem students lol .. This of course resulting with an implied stumble at the edge and then supposedly tumbling out of control the first few thousand feet lol ..
Sorry but we get our kicks in odd ways ... lol And I'm sure you copped a little crap yourself even though you were in what looks like a Cessna 182. What dropzone was this at? Who was your instructor and vidiot (camera guy)??
So I take it you enjoyed your tandem then huh!? You just let me know once you're done going through jump school and I'll sell you my skydiving rig hehehehehe ... Granted .. you may want to consider a hefty life insurance first .. and really good medical insurance ... Dunno what you weigh but I used to jump a heavily loaded Stiletto 190 as my main before getting grounded .. with approx 290 lbs under it (just over max recommended weight) that bloody thing came down like a rocket on a mission LOL! It is an incredibly fast turning canopy, not very forgiving, and VERY easy to paint yourself in to a corner with. But when you come down pushing 50-55 mph just inches off the ground .. man ... I miss that :/
Glad you had fun ... after all, it's about the most amount of fun you'll ever have with your clothes on hehehehe
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/28/2007 1:27:59 PM
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ZYNE
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Back injury Imp ... too much rehab and too many pain killers .. I've been at work, rehab center, and at home in various levels of vicodin/morphine induced vegetative states .. got better though .. then travelled to Dallas for work, now back in town and doing crappy again, go figure :/
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/28/2007 1:41:37 PM
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ZYNE
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I've been twice, both times via static line. I choose static line because I wanted to jump solo without someone else straped to me. Only bad thing about that is you don't get to freefall. I tell you what though, there is no bigger rush than taking that first step out and no greater feeling than when the shoot opens and your in controll.
Ok .. first out .. no one told you about static line huh .. lol .. SL has the highest fatality rate amongst first time jumpers because you THINK you're in control but trust me here, you are far from in control on your first jump. Not trying to slam you here, just made a FEW more jumps than you have, and I've seen enough SL students cake in and get seriously hurt or killed.
It is very common SL students who do end up with a malfunction end up injured or killed. I'm assuming you are "taught" to identify the different mal's pre-jump and more or less cut away from all of them with the exception of maybe a slider up mal or line twists (though we always taught ours to just chop).
Hate to be the a-hole to pizz in your wheaties here but proper malfunction procedures TAKES TIME and repetition. You have to develop a muscle memory and a calm/collected emergency approach. As a first timer you don't have it, regardless of 6 hours of ground school. What if you loose your goggles? Can you still chop and dump the reserve? Do you know where to put your hands with your eyes closed ? While on your back in a flat spin sucking your arms out and away from your body? Or without goggles heads down!? No, you don't. I've been in a situation where I couldn't see crap .. we did a high alti jump from 25K without bailout bottles .. it's very cold up there .. 85 or so at ground level. My fullface helmet I used for these jumps fogged up and I had ZERO visibility .. and at 3k when I pulled I also ended up with ZERO nylon above my head ... I fought it until I went through 900 feet and got the main out above me .. this mind you after several hundred jumps .. I lost altitude awareness .. I lost track of time (it sloooooooooooooooows way down in your head during these events) of course ... had I been about another second getting that resolved this discussion would not have taken place ...
Tandem progression is MUCH safer and believe it or not, with the proper program you have the SAME control, you just have a fail safe strapped to your back. If something goes wrong, THEY handle it, not you. Then they ease you in to an AFF progression, Assisted Free Fall where you jump your own parachute rig but with instructors to help you. Again, much safer. If you do another jump, I would recommend against SL, it's outdated and unsafe bro.
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/28/2007 1:53:56 PM
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Z, i take it you're done jumping? nothing to get you back up in the air? even if you're jumping into a big vat of puddin'? with some cake underneath it for added padding? c'mon, surely you'd do that . . . . . . . . .
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/28/2007 1:57:48 PM
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ZYNE
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One harsh opening can paralyze me shorty .. I'm done ...:/
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/28/2007 2:15:28 PM
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That SUKS!!!
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/28/2007 4:04:26 PM
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bonzaiii
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quote:
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ORIGINAL: bonzaiii
I've been twice, both times via static line. I choose static line because I wanted to jump solo without someone else straped to me. Only bad thing about that is you don't get to freefall. I tell you what though, there is no bigger rush than taking that first step out and no greater feeling than when the shoot opens and your in controll.
Ok .. first out .. no one told you about static line huh .. lol .. SL has the highest fatality rate amongst first time jumpers because you THINK you're in control but trust me here, you are far from in control on your first jump. Not trying to slam you here, just made a FEW more jumps than you have, and I've seen enough SL students cake in and get seriously hurt or killed.
It is very common SL students who do end up with a malfunction end up injured or killed. I'm assuming you are "taught" to identify the different mal's pre-jump and more or less cut away from all of them with the exception of maybe a slider up mal or line twists (though we always taught ours to just chop).
Hate to be the a-hole to pizz in your wheaties here but proper malfunction procedures TAKES TIME and repetition. You have to develop a muscle memory and a calm/collected emergency approach. As a first timer you don't have it, regardless of 6 hours of ground school. What if you loose your goggles? Can you still chop and dump the reserve? Do you know where to put your hands with your eyes closed ? While on your back in a flat spin sucking your arms out and away from your body? Or without goggles heads down!? No, you don't. I've been in a situation where I couldn't see crap .. we did a high alti jump from 25K without bailout bottles .. it's very cold up there .. 85 or so at ground level. My fullface helmet I used for these jumps fogged up and I had ZERO visibility .. and at 3k when I pulled I also ended up with ZERO nylon above my head ... I fought it until I went through 900 feet and got the main out above me .. this mind you after several hundred jumps .. I lost altitude awareness .. I lost track of time (it sloooooooooooooooows way down in your head during these events) of course ... had I been about another second getting that resolved this discussion would not have taken place ...
Tandem progression is MUCH safer and believe it or not, with the proper program you have the SAME control, you just have a fail safe strapped to your back. If something goes wrong, THEY handle it, not you. Then they ease you in to an AFF progression, Assisted Free Fall where you jump your own parachute rig but with instructors to help you. Again, much safer. If you do another jump, I would recommend against SL, it's outdated and unsafe bro.
Well I will not disagree with you. My first time I went with a friend for his 23 birthday. I was the heaviest so went first, I landed just in time to see him leave the plane. He became tangled in his shoot and never cut away and did not make it. Both of my children watched it happen. The next time I went I had a line twist and end cell closure. I was able to stay calm and ovecome both but I have not been up since. I still think about going again though as it is an undescribable feeling.
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/29/2007 3:32:05 AM
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hilljob26
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man that looks like fun
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/29/2007 5:25:31 PM
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ZYNE
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Sorry to hear about your friend burning in :( It's never easy to deal with, especially if you witness it :/
End cell closure is not really a mal, it's a packing error :-) The canopy opens too softly and the end cells will not inflate as a result. A couple of good pumps with the stearing toggles or a couple of S-turns resolves that quickly! Line twists CAN be a dangerous situation. Not so much on the larger and slower canopies you jump as students. Once you start getting in to heavily loaded elipticals such as what I used to jump it can easily become a life/death situation. A heavily loaded stiletto with a toggle fire during opening can and will spin you up so fast and hard it will pin your head between the risers. Then since it's a stiletto it will of course initiate one of it's infamous line twist/front riser dives and basically cork screw you in to the ground around 60 mph ... Student canopies will do it as well but at much slower speeds.
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/29/2007 5:29:04 PM
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ZYNE
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That SUKS!!!
I was pretty much putting my gear on the shelf anyways but at least I felt like I had the option to jump if I wanted to ... knowing I can't makes it suck though :/ I'm too fukkin' young for this sh!t lol
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/30/2007 1:05:04 AM
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HummBob
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That SUKS!!!
I was pretty much putting my gear on the shelf anyways but at least I felt like I had the option to jump if I wanted to ... knowing I can't makes it suck though :/ I'm too fukkin' young for this sh!t lol
I hear ya....Would have been nice if it was TOTALLY YOUR CHOICE!!!!!
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/30/2007 6:14:28 AM
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You still have dangerous activities you can enjoy, Sparky.... take a road trip to Cleveland.... Party with OSU football players.... put a new stereo in your 2......
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RE: Sky Dive - 9/30/2007 9:55:04 AM
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ZYNE
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ORIGINAL: HummBob
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ORIGINAL: ZYNE
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ORIGINAL: HummBob
That SUKS!!!
I was pretty much putting my gear on the shelf anyways but at least I felt like I had the option to jump if I wanted to ... knowing I can't makes it suck though :/ I'm too fukkin' young for this sh!t lol
I hear ya....Would have been nice if it was TOTALLY YOUR CHOICE!!!!!
Preferably for other reasons too LOL! Can't bungee jump anymore either .. what the hell am I gonna do for kicks now, all the fun stuff is off limits for crying out loud LOL! Needle point and knittin' here I come lol! Anyone want a nice pair of mittens for christmas? LOL!
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