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Greenblade -> H2 alpha wish list (5/28/2006 5:42:57 PM)

well, H2 fans, what would you want for an "alpha" or a next-generation H2?

visual distinction from other H2s? better mileage? front lockers? more horsepower/torque? duramax? interior changes?


I kind of view the H2 as a 3-pronged vehicle. offroad performance, luxury/comfort, and attention-getting ridiculousness


i don't know enough about offroading to really have much to offer, but i think that a couple of things could be done.

-front lockers
-self-leveling air suspension front and rear, to give the potential for even more ground clearance if you want it



for lux/comfort

-body-matched piping as a dealer option on the seats (sell the piping, dealers can install it). i love piped leather seats, the H3 has that option. maybe contrasted seat inserts as well

-3 zone climate control in the LUX package

-rear seats recline farther, they are a little too upright now

-option for 2 buckets in the rear



for attention getting... i can't imagine they could improve on that, lol. just soemthing to distinguish it from other H2s i guess. body color paint on some of the plastic trim




  
hummerific -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (5/29/2006 1:28:25 PM)

I'm sure a lot of people would love to see a diesel.

hummerific -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (5/29/2006 1:31:11 PM)

Oh and what about reduced weight, that would be good for a lot of things, handling and mileage amongst other things

Greenblade -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (5/29/2006 2:34:38 PM)

yeah, reduced weight would be good. if its an "alpha" to be the flagship, make it an aluminum chassis if it would help...

maybe give it a 5-speed auto as well, with a lower-geared 1st gear and a higher-geared overdrive. better crawl ratio and mileage... with lower weight, the higher-overdrive shouldn't give shift-down problems at highway speeds...


Greenblade -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/1/2006 11:21:16 PM)

i'd also ask for the whole spectra of modern safety features, i.e., a pile of airbags covering every angle.

blackstangs281 -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/3/2006 9:18:06 AM)

I would want more space for "stuff". For such a big vehicle, there is very little room for anything but the center console. If you have the DVD, thats gone also.

Last_LS1 -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/21/2006 7:53:53 PM)

I would like to see a transfer case with options. What I mean is the ability to manualy switch between 2wd and 4wd. Throwing it into 2wd for around town or freeway would save a ton of gas. Who needs 4wd when they are going to the grocery store? [8D]

Linus Gump -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/21/2006 9:41:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Last_LS1

I would like to see a transfer case with options. What I mean is the ability to manualy switch between 2wd and 4wd. Throwing it into 2wd for around town or freeway would save a ton of gas. Who needs 4wd when they are going to the grocery store? [8D]

True, it would save a lot in gas, but are you aware that a full time four wheel drive system, or all wheel drive system is safer in all driving conditions then a two wheel drive system?

Greenblade -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/27/2006 2:20:59 PM)

i think the 2wd option is a good idea. in most parts of the country, roads are never slipperier (sp?) than rain, andin those that deal with ice and snow... we're used to it, and just hit 4wd in our pickups and whatever when we can.

i think the bad press associated with the H2 over mileage should be addressed - and bringing it up to large SUV standards is a laudable goal, as it would add a measure of credence to what is currentlya preposterous propaganda campaign. how many times have i seen H2s called 8mpg or whatever? improve the thing, test the thing, and hve some public information available to ... to well, force discussions towards reality and mitigate some of the ability of the H2 to be singled out for slander.


i think the H2 should accept what it is, and not try to be a tahoe or a suburban. the rear seat isn't adequate for anybody over the age of 10, and with it installed cargo room trails other large SUVs.

the H2 is an offroad machine, and shorter to allow the sweet approach and departure angles, and an offroad machine it must remain, so the shorter design/lower cargo area must remain. so just make it REALLY comy for 5 (rear seat climate control, better rear seat, reclining and all of that) + great cargo room.

leave the seats-7 stuff to minivans and mee-too generic SUVs. a hummer is a hummer, the sports car of the SUV world, let it be as such.


Last_LS1 -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/27/2006 8:55:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Linus Gimp

True, it would save a lot in gas, but are you aware that a full time four wheel drive system, or all wheel drive system is safer in all driving conditions then a two wheel drive system?




Sure I do, and while that's true, I could also say that the safest driving condition would be to not drive at all. I just think it would be nice to have the option of 2wd sometimes.

I live in sunny San Diego California, so people here don't really have any concerns about driving conditions. It doesn't rain much, doesn't snow, once every 2 years it might hail...Heck! We complain about 55 degree winter!!

Greenblade, I love your posts!

Dennis -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/27/2006 10:45:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Last_LS1
Greenblade, I love your posts!
Ain't he awesome...Reading his post's just mesmerizes me[sm=insomnia.gif]

Linus Gump -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/27/2006 11:05:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Last_LS1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Linus Gimp

True, it would save a lot in gas, but are you aware that a full time four wheel drive system, or all wheel drive system is safer in all driving conditions then a two wheel drive system?




Sure I do, and while that's true, I could also say that the safest driving condition would be to not drive at all. I just think it would be nice to have the option of 2wd sometimes.

I live in sunny San Diego California, so people here don't really have any concerns about driving conditions. It doesn't rain much, doesn't snow, once every 2 years it might hail...Heck! We complain about 55 degree winter!!

Greenblade, I love your posts!

Yeah, but as I said; all driving conditions. That includes dry pavement when traction is optimum. Look at all of the high performance "rally race" type cars that are all wheel drive. They aren't meant for snow and ice, they instill spirited driving in dry weather where the added traction afforded by all wheel drive helps the driver retain control. True, a Hummer won't do what those cars will do, but have you ever had to make a sudden swerve to avoid something in the road? Those types of everyday driving emergencies are safer with all wheels powered than with just two, reguardless wether those two are on the front or rear. With your heat, the roads will develope a film of oil from the asphault getting hot and "sweatting", and from dripping oil off passing cars. When it rains, this oil floats to the surface and makes the roads slicker than snake snot on a door knob until it washes away. You can see it as a white foamy stuff collecting in the ruts. All wheel drive is a major bennifit here. Living in the Pacific North West where we dont tan, we rust, most of our traffic accidents when it rains after a dry spell is from non-rain driving people not knowing how to drive in it and deal with that oil.

hummerific -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/28/2006 7:35:20 AM)

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Yeah, but as I said; all driving conditions. That includes dry pavement when traction is optimum. Look at all of the high performance "rally race" type cars that are all wheel drive. They aren't meant for snow and ice, they instill spirited driving in dry weather where the added traction afforded by all wheel drive helps the driver retain control. True, a Hummer won't do what those cars will do, but have you ever had to make a sudden swerve to avoid something in the road? Those types of everyday driving emergencies are safer with all wheels powered than with just two, reguardless wether those two are on the front or rear. With your heat, the roads will develope a film of oil from the asphault getting hot and "sweatting", and from dripping oil off passing cars. When it rains, this oil floats to the surface and makes the roads slicker than snake snot on a door knob until it washes away. You can see it as a white foamy stuff collecting in the ruts. All wheel drive is a major bennifit here. Living in the Pacific North West where we dont tan, we rust, most of our traffic accidents when it rains after a dry spell is from non-rain driving people not knowing how to drive in it and deal with that oil.


That is true, but there are also many more things that would optimize safety in any driving condition. There are many areas where 4wd or awd just isnt necessary. Driving an audi awd is even safer, because that wouldnt tip over as fast as the hummer.

Linus Gump -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/28/2006 1:36:20 PM)

Rolling over doesn't have much to do with traction, which was the reason I suggested for staying with the full time four wheel drive sysytem. BTW, I believe Jeep offered a system for a while in the Grand Cherokee that was selectible between full time, part time, and low range. To my knowlege it isn't offered anymore, possibly due to its complexity and breakdowns. I don't know for sure.

Last_LS1 -> RE: H2 alpha wish list (6/28/2006 6:22:44 PM)

I agree with you Linus, it is safer to stay in full time 4wd, I'm not arguing there. For me however, it's not a must all the time. If I really wanted to optimize safety I would go with a roll cage + harness combo, tank treads, and a helmet. I'm just saying I would like the option of 2wd. What can I say I like options. When I get fast food somewhere, I sometimes order enough food for 3 people, not because I'm going to eat it all in one sitting(I put the rest in the fridge for later), but I just like options. That's just me! To each his own! [:D]

  

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