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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/24/2007 8:26:31 PM

Linus Gump

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The only problem with that Dennis, is the parking brake is a small set of shoes inside of the rotor. the pads are only for stopping, so if you forgot to release the parking brake, all you have done is fried your parking brake.

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/24/2007 8:43:07 PM

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We charge $300 plus tax to turn the front rotors and install new pads.

wow i need to go up on my prices
i do them all the time for $150 to $160
and thats for ceramic pads (no noise and almost no dust)
and turn the 2 rotors

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/24/2007 8:55:36 PM

Dennis

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The only problem with that Dennis, is the parking brake is a small set of shoes inside of the rotor. the pads are only for stopping, so if you forgot to release the parking brake, all you have done is fried your parking brake.

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The guy who looked at it said the rotors are bad and the weird thing is the back rotors are worse than the front.

Key word ther Linus is FRIED...I speak from experience...On a 92 300E Benz I had for 12 years..One day the significant other forgot to release the parking brake...it was driven like that for only a couple of miles and then relesed..soon afterward the car developed a terrible shimmy when stopping..I pulled the rear Drum/Rotors like the H3 has and the rotor faces were actually blued from the heat, migrating from the center drum area all across the face of the rotor..Granted you maybe correct in what you eluded to, that the regular pads did not suffer any excessive wear and the really wouldn't have either for only a couple of miles had they been acting as the parking brake..anyways, the parking brake shoes were not that much worse the wear either and had plenty of life left to them...But the heat they created, was enough to warp the rotors severly...What stands out about Jen's first post that leads me in this direction, is that her service guy said Rear ROTORS are BAD and nothing about worn PADS....Classic Parking Brake left on senerio.

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/24/2007 9:03:45 PM

mfish

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I have had that same problem, When I braked I would get a grinding noise just before I came to a stop. I have taken it to the dealer twice and they resurfaced the rotors both times. They know about the problem, I have an 06, 23k miles, they said the rotors had a glaze from getting to hot, just the rear had the problem, first they put a swirl pattern on the rear rotors which worked for awhile. It came back about a month ago and thi time they just did a normal resurfacing job. I am worried they aren't going to last much longer. They are good now. I do drive in the lovely san diego traffic every day but I use my gears ( auto trans ) and I know I dont ride my brakes or brake hard. I have never had this problem with other cars on the same commute. They are covered under warranty, take it back to the dealer. I think the brakes are just to small for the truck.

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/24/2007 9:30:28 PM

Linus Gump

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I see your point Dennis. I wasn't looking at it from the perspective of what the heat from the drum would do, only form what the pads would do in a normal warping scenario. That makes sense.

My biggest gripe of this style of parking brake is that even if you properly apply the brake, it is still too easy to drive off with it on. Back in the days when the parking brake used the regular brake parts, if you properly put engaged the brake, you would know there was a problem as soon as you tried to move. I know this from first hand experience. When I was 16 I was showing off to some of my friends by doing burnouts in my Scout. The last one I did I set the parking brake. I forgot about the brake and did one more. I busted the driveline, not a u-joint, but twisted the tube in two. You could also use the brake in an emergency. Now you cant.

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/25/2007 5:56:31 AM

Dennis

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LOL..Wow those babies held good

..But I agree with you too..these mini brakes they use for the parking are pretty weak and easy to drive off with them still applied...I guess GM decided to use this style so if you were offroading and the rotors were all slopped up with mud and dirt you could still apply the parking brake to hold you on and incline or something senerio like that..probably more for the manual tranny versions...
Does the H2 use this same style of parking brakes?

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/25/2007 6:41:37 AM

D VADER

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Wow, I can relate to this. My CTS had BAER Big Brakes installed about 5,000 miles! Both rear rotors warped! I don't do panic stops or abuse my brakes but I do some spirited driving. I thought maybe I had some debree on the rotors. I tried to burn it off by braking while gassing it. It didn't help.
No warranty so I'm waiting for some UUC drilled rotors to replace them.

It's the front brakes that take most of the heat and abuse. It surprised me to see the rear rotors warp.

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/25/2007 7:14:53 AM

Dennis

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One thing to understand, is that the rear rotors on most cars (I don't know chit about CTSs), are not vented like the front ones and they tend to hold the heat of friction longer before they can cool off...I'm inclined to beleive that is why a lot of warpage usually happens to the rears more so than the fronts..but you are right, most braking distribution is a 80/20 or 60/40 displacement.

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/25/2007 8:23:09 AM

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GM has had a problem with rotors on a couple of models. I worked at a cadillac dealer for 7 years and everyone had brake pulsations. You could cut the rotors but it would always come back eventually. the only way to never have a problem again is to put on the cheap aftermarket rotors.

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/25/2007 8:29:16 AM

Dennis

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Amen to that brother...I have replaced the Rotors on about everything I've ever owned to an Aftermarket brand..The last job I did was on the JAG last month and I put EBC sports and Akebono Euro ceramic Pads...Totally perfect match....Totally quiet and clean with excellent, if not better than OM braking qualities.

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/25/2007 10:13:39 AM

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I was just teasing...

I know you were.

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RE: Brakes already?? - 5/25/2007 10:30:55 AM

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