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Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 10:59:28 AM   
LawWyfe


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Just MY .02...  Particularly after having lived in another country and HAVING to adhere/adjust to their laws and ways of living! (OK so putting aside the religious aspect of this since we are all from different beliefs of religion)...but I stand by the anthem thing!


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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 11:12:31 AM   
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Being an immigrant who did things the right way myself .. HELL YEAH!  This should be a flippin' given ... if not, stay where you are damnit!!!!!!!!

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 12:31:29 PM   
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Thank you!

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 12:58:06 PM   
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Den, I went through this very thing back over seas when we by law no longer were allowed to sing our national anthem on graduation day .. it's ugly to be proud of your country over there, it labels you as a racist.  Why I don't know but that's how it was back there when I grew up.  Not much has changed since from what I've heard.  Bottom line is, you should be proud of your country ... I'm damn proud of the United States and I'm fortunate to live here ... I may not have adopted all your customs and I certainly have not given up all of what I brought with me either .. but damnit, if you live in an english speaking country, learn the f*cking language please.  We should not have to learn another language so WE can communicate with YOU in OUR country!!!!

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 2:52:00 PM   
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I totally agree.  Part of moving to another country involves your acceptance of the possibly new and different ways of life, and rules that govern.  If you are not willing to accept these, then don't come!  Language is an obvious one, as not knowing the language present a barrier to not only yourselves, but to others, and continues to dissociate you as a member of that country.  Topics such as religion are a little trickier, but the whole idea of immigration is to bring in diversified groups who CONTRIBUTE to the society, not LEECH off it or drag their problems with them. 

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 3:09:50 PM   
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Religion is far too personal to push down someones throat .. and like you said, it's about diversity!!!

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 3:09:57 PM   
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I want this blown up and made into a billboard...I will gladly drive it around behind my h3!!! I HATE having to press one for english!!!!

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 3:16:46 PM   
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I want this blown up and made into a billboard...I will gladly drive it around behind my h3!!! I HATE having to press one for english!!!!


While that is not much of a bother to me, I hate when the message actually states "Press 1 for spanish" IN !@#$!@#$!@#$ spanish before the english message actually kicks off .. that irks me to no flippin end ... My english fricken sucked when I first moved here in comparison to how it is today but I never had problems making myself understood or understand others ... Is that so fricken much to ask for?  If you move to another country, that should be something you do BEFORE you !@#$!@#$!@#$ move there .. if not .. how the hell can you be a productive member of society!??  I think we should have a new immigration policy applied ... if you can't understand a childrens book written in english .. you get deported right then and there.  Not only will it cut down on these dead beats but people would !@#$!@#$ think twice about what they are doing BEFORE they get here .... and I dunno .. PRE-F*CKING-PARE a lil' bit??

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 3:22:00 PM   
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I certainly will commend you on your perfect command of the english language, especially the cussing parts..LOL

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 3:23:14 PM   
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my grandparents actually forbid Italian from bieng spoken in their house...they said that we are Americans now and will only speak English in this house. My Brother married a Puerto Rican girl and when here family / friends are over it sounds like a mexican cattle auction......they are some of the rudest damn people I have ever met. I've lost my temper, mouthed off and stormed out of that house quite a few times over that.

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 3:36:49 PM   
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I certainly will commend you on your perfect command of the english language, especially the cussing parts..LOL


LOL!  Why thank you Den .. I will have to give Hollywood that one ... I learned that aspect of your language loooooooooo-oooooooong before I moved here ... :-)  I will admit though ... I took American english in school rather than the traditional "stick up the azz" brittish crap ... it probably helped even though I slept or cut that class almost every time LOL!  It's all about what you are willing to give up or replace ...and if you have a blind flippin' hatred for where you come from .. it's pretty easy :-) 

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 3:59:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dennis

I certainly will commend you on your perfect command of the english language, especially the cussing parts..LOL


LOL!  Why thank you Den .. I will have to give Hollywood that one ... I learned that aspect of your language loooooooooo-oooooooong before I moved here ... :-)  I will admit though ... I took American english in school rather than the traditional "stick up the azz" brittish crap ... it probably helped even though I slept or cut that class almost every time LOL!  It's all about what you are willing to give up or replace ...and if you have a blind flippin' hatred for where you come from .. it's pretty easy :-) 


Not to get too philosophical, but the other day I finally got around to watching the movie  "Babel".  Overall I did not think it was a great movie, but one point I think it was trying to make was how a lack of communication destroys and causes unnecessary problems and hardship.  People who cannot speak the majority language face larger hurdles, and takes them longer to adjust and make their own opinions and wants understood.  I tend to agree with Zyne that if you are going to make such a life-altering decision to move to a new country, you should have prepared and at least have a basic grasp of the language.

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 4:01:52 PM   
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I don't think there are any excuses for not doing it OTHER THAN if you are a refugee in which case you're pretty much SOL regardless ... but if a concious, planned decisions ... make an effort please!  To the folks who did it's pretty much an insult seeing this go on like it does .. while I see illegals fill certain roles you and I will never fill ... still, it's not an excuse for circumventing the system .. the intent and the attitude that shows at least me ... f*ck em, send em packing! 

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 6:24:13 PM   
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To quote the great philospher, Gary Sherone of the rock band Extreme in one of his songs.  " If don't like what your seeing get the fuk out!"  

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RE: Just MY .02! - 4/23/2007 7:01:40 PM   
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Did I misinterpret that studmuffin? WHY should I "get the fuk out of my own country?" Or did you mean everyone else who came here from elsewhere should get the fuk out if they don't like what they are seeing? LOL

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