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Do we get out of Iraq


GET OUT NOW all together, and never look back.
  27% (5)
Get out and then go after Iran..Air strikes only!
  5% (1)
Stay, take total control, and use their oil to pay for the war
  33% (6)
Stay and slowly turn it over to the Iraqis
  33% (6)


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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/21/2007 5:23:56 AM   
RichS


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ORIGINAL: Choco

In my opinion...

If you look at all the evidence leading up to and during 9/11.
It leads me to believe that this whole war had to do with oil. At the end of the day it's all about business.

1-2 months before there was 8,000 people that bet American Airlines was going to drop/fail, this was 16x the normal amount in 1 year.

The guy leasing, resigned a new lease for 3.2bill, and got insurance for 3.5bill specifically covering against terroism.

1 eye witnessed described the planes as a blue circle symbol, not an american airline description. If you slow-motion the clip just before it hits the tower there is a bright fire, it was observed from 3 different angles.

The 2nd Tower stood up strong for quite sometime. The firefighters said they couldnt exstinguish the fire, and if they should let it go? He responded with "There has been to much loss, let it go?" soon after it falls down like a demolition building.

Firefighter described it like each floor going boom boom boom, much like a building getting blown up with detonaters.

The pentagon was supposidly hit by a plane, but there was no evidence of a plane being there. Also the hole made in the section of the pentagon was much smaller than the nose of a 577, also how could a plane like this make it through 18 feet of concrete. There was only 1 Camera watching this section of the pentagon, how does that happen? A gas station fairly close by had video footage of this event, and was quicky confiscated by government officials. How can a 575 Hit the pentagon and leave no pieces, seats, wing, anything.

There is a lot more information about this from:
9/11: Conspiracy
9/11: Recut Edition     or something like that.

These 2 videos have showed me more evidence than any other source.

I feel bush took advantage of american Patriotism by stating:
"If your not with us, you're with the terriosts."
Thats messed up.

Recut Edition of 9/11 is really good and 9/11 conspiracy is alright. Just try to look at it with an open mind.
First of all I am highly insulted that you would get on this forum and throw your conspiracy theories around about 9/11. It's a slap in the face to anyone who lost a loved one an that horrific day. If you believe that garbage so be it, but keep that crap off these boards! I'm sure there's some conspiracy sites you would feel at home on, you can get on your soapbox there! Secondly, documentary filmmakers just push there opinions on you. Al Gore and Michael Moore are not journalists! Good documentaries show both sides of the argument and let you decide what to believe. And you have to be joking that you are taking a film entitled "9/11 Conspiracy" seriously. Consider the source.

Sorry for the rant.



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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/21/2007 5:36:26 AM   
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Im sorry if anyone felt like i was slapping them in the face.

And if you can't rant here, where can you

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/21/2007 12:26:10 PM   
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I can not comment for if I cannot say anything creative I will say nothing...

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/21/2007 1:41:31 PM   
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I'm really sad for Choco...

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/21/2007 6:19:52 PM   
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Sad for me? Whys that?

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/21/2007 7:31:19 PM   
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Well. for the reason that you are so caught up in this ridiculous conspiracy...I won't waste my time arguing with you, but really man...that conspiracy is soooooo far fetched, it's actually insulting to the average intelligence…It boarders the comment made by the Irani President, that the Holocaust never happened..

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/22/2007 1:23:49 AM   
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Conspiracy ridiculous? hmm..
Almost as ridiculous as "Freedom Fries", or
Bush states "If your not with us, your with the terriosts".

That sir is ridiculous.

Though I do respect your opinion.

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/22/2007 3:42:04 AM   
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I don't REALLY want to get involved in this as I KNOW it's a touchy subject, but GEEZ, some of those "CONSPIRACY VIDEOS" I've seen do make you go HMMMMM???

One in particular that I saw was "THE PLANE TRUTH"

I SOOOO don't believe the US Government was behind it....but some of the stuff I've seen is strange!!

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/22/2007 5:28:19 AM   
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Did you see the part about the Pentagon.. How can the government not be a part of it.

Theres 6 rings in the pentagon, each are 3 feet of steel reinforced concrete.
3 of those rings where pierced, thats a total of 9 feet of steel reinforced concrete.

How could a 757 pierce a 9 feet of steel reinforced concrete, and leave a 14x16 foot hole with no wreckage?

Im not expecting anyone to agree with me, but maybe consider, "yea it does seem a bit fishy".

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/22/2007 11:08:50 AM   
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When an aluminum Object flying at over 400 MPH hits a solid concrete wall like you say..Nothing is left to pick up, except dust..Simple physics....In the same light..there wasn't much left of the WTC either once it all came crumbing down either....Oh!  but others would have you believe there really wasn't a WTC there, it was all a super big picture of the twin towers and the image was just place there over a huge land fill that the city of NY was trying to hide with this big picture of the WTC, untill a piper cub airplane ran through... them...Splat, splat went the body parts..
Yes ridiculous..ask the ghosts of the people on the Aircraft that crashed into the Pentagon...And explain how a registered airline Flight dissapeared into nothingness..Ask the families of the people that disappeared where their loved ones went...Oh I know, they hid over 200 people and an aircraft out on the lunar landscape in NM where the supposed Moon walk took place...

Damn Choco...I have concert tickets to see Stevie Ray Vaughan and Ricky Nelson  next week too...

< Message edited by Dennis -- 4/22/2007 11:16:45 AM >

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/22/2007 1:55:51 PM   
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So your saying the 575 that hit the pentagon just turned into dust. That still doesnt explain the 14-16 pierced hole.

I don't think they stuffed a plane full of dumbies, people did loose there lives in this ordeal.

Also if a twc is hit near the top, if everything above it would be unstable, but hte base of the tower is secure. On the 2nd Tower, each floor popped out 1 after another, like detonators where placed on each support beam.

People are 2 patriotic to go searching through a huge land fill for evidence of conspiracy.


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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/22/2007 2:22:38 PM   
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Okay buddy, you win...

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/22/2007 2:27:05 PM   
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lol I think you win for swallowing your pride and saying that.

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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/22/2007 5:18:11 PM   
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I think Dennis is just tired of arguing with someone who just doesn't get it.



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RE: Do we get out of Iraq - 4/22/2007 5:35:00 PM   
Choco



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quote:

ORIGINAL: RichS

I think Dennis is just tired of arguing with someone who just doesn't get it.




I know he's tired... but i still give him props..

The only thing i dont get is..

How could a 757 pierce a 9 feet of steel reinforced concrete, and leave a 14x16 foot hole with no wreckage?

Good day.

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