DO NOT BUY CITGO GAS
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RE: DO NOT BUY CITGO GAS - 5/10/2006 7:28:45 PM
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blackstangs281
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I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: DO NOT BUY CITGO GAS - 5/10/2006 8:14:14 PM
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shortbus
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i certainly don't agree with cindy sheehan, and think chavez could use some cranial aeration, but if you think about it - what nation supplies us with oil that actually likes us? the kingdom of saudi arabia? please, the only thing they like about us is the fact we protected them from an idiot 10 years ago and we line 1/10th of 1 percent of their pockets. if it wasn't for the oil, they'd probably come with an axis of evil tag. we see too often on the news how well we're liked in iraq and iran. kuwait? sure, we bailed them out, but how are they helping us now? their residents fled to other countries as ours died in theirs, what did that do for us? who's left, russia? i don't know if, or how much, oil we get from there, but the jacka$$ one heartbeat away from president isn't making that relationship any better. if you think about it, what country wouldn't like to see us fail? we have no foreign policy, it's been reduced to "for us or against us". most people, when given an ultimatum, push back. we provide foreign aid to countries with antagonistic regimes, because it suits our purpose. look at your history book and how the Taliban came to be. a dictator calling for our demise is nothing new. i've lived in three foreign countries, 2 of which are relatively westernized, and based on that experience there is nowhere else i would rather live than right here. whether or not i agree with the people that think they're capable of providing leadership doesn't matter, they still provide me the freedom that no other place in the world gives me. but, it also gives an ungrateful person like cindy sheehan the freedom to express her views, no matter how unpopular they may be to some people. it also allows dictators like chavez to reign supreme in their little world, feeling safe in the fact that one of our policies we hold relatively close to our hearts is the fact that we're not in the business of assassination. so, all that said, i don't even think Citgo has stations here in CA. if they do, they're rare. but if they did, i would buy gas there like i would any other place. if you want to do soemthing meaningful, buy gas only from Arco, they're not affiliated with a Gulf regime. otherwise, the cynical side of me says that there's no way you could get 275 million people to boycott them, and if they were cheaper, most people couldn't afford to. ok, soapbox retired, shortbus out.
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RE: DO NOT BUY CITGO GAS - 5/11/2006 7:49:09 AM
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hummerific
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I dont think Chavez is a dictator at all. He was chosen by the people and I dont remember that there were any unfair practices going on during the elections. And do keep in mind that there's a president in power here that wasn't elected by the people in the first place. When Chavez started talking **** about the US and that he was going to boycot the US Bush stationed a couple navy ships at a Dutch Island right off the coast of Venezuela and threatened to throw a few air strikes at him. <-What do you mean imperialism, for us or against us?
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RE: DO NOT BUY CITGO GAS - 5/11/2006 8:41:02 AM
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Dennis
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I think Pat Robertson had the right idea; Robertson called for the assassination of Venezuela's president Pat Robertson, host of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club and founder of the Christian Coalition of America, called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. From the August 22 broadcast of The 700 Club: ROBERTSON: There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent. You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with
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