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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 3:51:00 PM
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HummerGuy
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You have a person driving a Prius with a H3 pulling behind it, while the Prius intentionally stops extremely far away from the stoplight. The person that first triggered the incident was the guy in the Prius, because he stopped 3 car lengths before the intersection. B (as we will call him now  ) stops behind him. You are saying that this guy in the Prius would not have done what he did with the start and stop unless B was REALLY close to him. How do you know that? What if B was 20 feet behind him when he first stopped, then realized he was actually stopped and progressed forward? How is that provoking some idiot in a Prius to do what he did? You are assuming alot of things here:
A) You are assuming B was RIGHT on the Prius's bumper
B) You are assuming B was on his bumper close because he was upset about him getting cut off
C) You are assuming because the Prius driver did the stop and go incident, that it was because B was too close.
How do you know B was THAT close? IF this person was old, maybe 10 feet to him is close, maybe 20 feet to him is close, or maybe the guy just hates Hummers and wanted to be a d!ckhead and just piss B off.
You see where I'm going with this? I understand your point of view, but you are basing it all off of assumptions that 1) He was close to this guy's bumper (and we don't know HOW close) and 2) He did what he did because of that. Maybe the guy as I said just hates Hummers. I just don't think you should judge the actions of B without getting some facts first, ie, how far was he from the guy's rear when he was following behind him.
YOu know me better then anybody on this forum so you get what I'm saying right? You are just assuming ALOT but until B comes here and says "damn right I was right on his ass" or "I was 30 feet away from him the first time he slammed on his brakes" you won't know until he says it. I just think its unfairly judging someone without knowing the facts of the situation.
I know I wouldn't want to tel lthis story and have someone tell me I was wrong with what happened, even though I was cut off and was following the guy at a large distance. Wait and see what he says first (if he even comes back to this topic )
You may have scared him off
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 3:57:34 PM
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You have a person driving a Prius with a H3 pulling behind it, while the Prius intentionally stops extremely far away from the stoplight. The person that first triggered the incident was the guy in the Prius, because he stopped 3 car lengths before the intersection. B (as we will call him now ) stops behind him. You are saying that this guy in the Prius would not have done what he did with the start and stop unless B was REALLY close to him. How do you know that? What if B was 20 feet behind him when he first stopped, then realized he was actually stopped and progressed forward? How is that provoking some idiot in a Prius to do what he did? You are assuming alot of things here:
A) You are assuming B was RIGHT on the Prius's bumper
B) You are assuming B was on his bumper close because he was upset about him getting cut off
C) You are assuming because the Prius driver did the stop and go incident, that it was because B was too close.
How do you know B was THAT close? IF this person was old, maybe 10 feet to him is close, maybe 20 feet to him is close, or maybe the guy just hates Hummers and wanted to be a d!ckhead and just piss B off.
You see where I'm going with this? I understand your point of view, but you are basing it all off of assumptions that 1) He was close to this guy's bumper (and we don't know HOW close) and 2) He did what he did because of that. Maybe the guy as I said just hates Hummers. I just don't think you should judge the actions of B without getting some facts first, ie, how far was he from the guy's rear when he was following behind him.
YOu know me better then anybody on this forum so you get what I'm saying right? You are just assuming ALOT but until B comes here and says "damn right I was right on his ass" or "I was 30 feet away from him the first time he slammed on his brakes" you won't know until he says it. I just think its unfairly judging someone without knowing the facts of the situation.
I know I wouldn't want to tel lthis story and have someone tell me I was wrong with what happened, even though I was cut off and was following the guy at a large distance. Wait and see what he says first (if he even comes back to this topic )
You may have scared him off
So why did you buy one for a second car?
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 3:58:12 PM
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And just so you know, I agree with your theory and in most cases you are right, but this can also definitely be considered for the "Prius owner hates Hummers and wants to piss them off" catagory. I would just say give the guy a chance to explain the situation a little more before critisizing him for something he may or may not have done in the fashion you are assuming he did it in
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 4:02:21 PM
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Wrong THREAD DILO!!!
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 4:18:39 PM
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You have a person driving a Prius with a H3 pulling behind it, while the Prius intentionally stops extremely far away from the stoplight. The person that first triggered the incident was the guy in the Prius, because he stopped 3 car lengths before the intersection. B (as we will call him now ) stops behind him. You are saying that this guy in the Prius would not have done what he did with the start and stop unless B was REALLY close to him. How do you know that? What if B was 20 feet behind him when he first stopped, then realized he was actually stopped and progressed forward? How is that provoking some idiot in a Prius to do what he did? You are assuming alot of things here:
A) You are assuming B was RIGHT on the Prius's bumper
Why would the driver in the front make a remark to his bumper and ask if he liked it!? I don't think it was because he caught B with a pair of binoculars and his d**k in his hand gawkin' at the a$$ of the prius ...
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B) You are assuming B was on his bumper close because he was upset about him getting cut off
Could you tell me when I said that?! I think you're fabricating this one yourself buddy ... I said I think he did what most drivers do when they can't handle an idiot driver.
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C) You are assuming because the Prius driver did the stop and go incident, that it was because B was too close.
See answer to question B, above
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How do you know B was THAT close? IF this person was old, maybe 10 feet to him is close, maybe 20 feet to him is close, or maybe the guy just hates Hummers and wanted to be a d!ckhead and just piss B off.
Though the thought of that did cross my mind ... logic tells me the bumper would not have been what was on his mind ... that would've been irrelevant to someone like that ..
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You see where I'm going with this? I understand your point of view, but you are basing it all off of assumptions that 1) He was close to this guy's bumper (and we don't know HOW close) and 2) He did what he did because of that. Maybe the guy as I said just hates Hummers. I just don't think you should judge the actions of B without getting some facts first, ie, how far was he from the guy's rear when he was following behind him.
No, I don't see where you're going since I haven't said half of the things you say I have LOL! And well .. ya'll had no problems judging the guy he pissed off without facts .. why not open this up to a two way conversation instead of just bashing away on the other side .. ALSO without facts ... just a thought but I figured that would be more fair ....
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YOu know me better then anybody on this forum so you get what I'm saying right? You are just assuming ALOT but until B comes here and says "damn right I was right on his ass" or "I was 30 feet away from him the first time he slammed on his brakes" you won't know until he says it. I just think its unfairly judging someone without knowing the facts of the situation.
I know I wouldn't want to tel lthis story and have someone tell me I was wrong with what happened, even though I was cut off and was following the guy at a large distance. Wait and see what he says first (if he even comes back to this topic )
You may have scared him off
I don't think I ever stated he was wrong in my initial post on this matter. I offered my opinion on it because I think people who do this crap deserve every verbal lashing they can get ... I've been rear ended 3 times myself and I can tell you I'm not exactly THE most appreciative person when it comes to
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 4:30:54 PM
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And just so you know, I agree with your theory and in most cases you are right, but this can also definitely be considered for the "Prius owner hates Hummers and wants to piss them off" catagory. I would just say give the guy a chance to explain the situation a little more before critisizing him for something he may or may not have done in the fashion you are assuming he did it in
Psstt ... it was a CIVIC :-)
Why does he deserve the benefit of the doubt when the Civic driver was not ... I'm extending the same amount of curtesy as the rest of yas ... just not on the same side of the argument ... I'm going against the grain here .. had I not done that this thread would've been half the size it is now ... personally I think this thread is exceptionally biast for the very same reasons you think I should cut him some slack ... again I ask .. WHY?
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 4:34:29 PM
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"I offered my opinion on it because I think people who do this crap deserve every verbal lashing they can get"
If you are referring to B following too close as part of these people (which is what I'm trying to understand) then yes, I agree, but again, we still aren't sure what CLOSE is, and when he did this, the guy was already stopped.
"I've been rear ended 3 times myself and I can tell you I'm not exactly THE most appreciative person when it comes to that. Les has been too .. and she was tailgating the guy infront of her and she nailed him too, real good!"
I can understand that, I don't like when people do it either, but if you are stopped in the middle of the road, I'm not going to stay 20 feet behind you, but you kinda repremanded B without knowing how far back he really was. That's what I'm saying. I'm not arguing wether it was RIGHT or WRONG. Of course I agree with you, you shouldn't be on someone's ass like that. There's no question there. The question is, was B really THAT close? What if he wasn't? Then you kinda prematurely critisized him before knowing just how far back he was, and stereotyping him as one of those fools that does it. You get what I mean? Two different points here.
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 4:44:47 PM
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ZYNE
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"I offered my opinion on it because I think people who do this crap deserve every verbal lashing they can get"
If you are referring to B following too close as part of these people (which is what I'm trying to understand) then yes, I agree, but again, we still aren't sure what CLOSE is, and when he did this, the guy was already stopped.
"I've been rear ended 3 times myself and I can tell you I'm not exactly THE most appreciative person when it comes to that. Les has been too .. and she was tailgating the guy infront of her and she nailed him too, real good!"
I can understand that, I don't like when people do it either, but if you are stopped in the middle of the road, I'm not going to stay 20 feet behind you, but you kinda repremanded B without knowing how far back he really was. That's what I'm saying. I'm not arguing wether it was RIGHT or WRONG. Of course I agree with you, you shouldn't be on someone's ass like that. There's no question there. The question is, was B really THAT close? What if he wasn't? Then you kinda prematurely critisized him before knowing just how far back he was, and stereotyping him as one of those fools that does it. You get what I mean? Two different points here.
Based on the comments he shared, yes, it would imply he was. This is human nature my friend .. WHY, ask yourself WHY would someone come out in a rampage referring to their bumper. And don't tell me it's the prius/hybrid hummer hate here ... it's a fairly small group of people and I would CERTAINLY think someone of that nature would have made a couple of comments regarding that very subject if they were pi$$ed off and had the chance to really take a chunk out of a HUMMER owners behind ... We BOTH know there's no way these huggers wouldn't give those cheap shots up .. not even to save a tree ...
Yes, I critized B for it .. and there's about 10 of yas critizing the other driver based on the same post, voicing your opinions ... I did too, I just don't happen to agree with the rest of ya'll which is why I'm being stomped on for it .. again I'll say had I agreed with everyone else, this thread would've been dead at this point .. or very slow moving ..
If anything this thread has shown that if you go against the grain and have a differentiating opinion of things .. you get shot down for it. I've based MY opinion on the same post you have .. yet mine is all assumption and it's mostly wrong .. while the bashing of the guy who in MY opinion got tailgated is correct and tolerated ... well F**K me sideways folks ... kind of reminds me of old news reels from the 1930's but it was hard to understand because the narration was in GERMAN!
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 4:44:57 PM
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And just so you know, I agree with your theory and in most cases you are right, but this can also definitely be considered for the "Prius owner hates Hummers and wants to piss them off" catagory. I would just say give the guy a chance to explain the situation a little more before critisizing him for something he may or may not have done in the fashion you are assuming he did it in
Psstt ... it was a CIVIC :-)
Why does he deserve the benefit of the doubt when the Civic driver was not ... I'm extending the same amount of curtesy as the rest of yas ... just not on the same side of the argument ... I'm going against the grain here .. had I not done that this thread would've been half the size it is now ... personally I think this thread is exceptionally biast for the very same reasons you think I should cut him some slack ... again I ask .. WHY?
DOH! The Civic Hybrid looks so much like the Prius, I visually see that car in my mind every time I see "Hybrid" anything.
Nick: OK buddy. PLEASE read this slow :)
I'm not saying he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I'm saying, I don't think it's fair you are critisizing B before he has a chance to tell you if he WAS or WAS NOT real close to the guy. If he WAS close, rip him a new one lol, but if he wasn't, then you can't call him out for doing something he didn't do.
Does ANYBODY understand what I'm trying to say? There is definitely some disturbing communications gap going on here, and I'm not saying it's not MY fault, because it probably is lol
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 4:51:07 PM
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But ya'll got to voice yours without doing so .. why not me too then .. I know the answer here ... I picked the "wrong side" ...  
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 5:05:08 PM
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Hey, I didn't say ANYBODY else was an angel either there. You expressed your opinion directly towards him but still don't know if he was guilty of anything you are accusing him of.
All I'm saying is, I think it would have been more appropriate to say "IF you DID follow him too close, then here is what I think of you and what you did" instead of just going at it at him. Please tell me you understand what I'm saying. I'm not taking sides man, you keep thinking that's what I'm doing it sounds like. That's not what me, personally, is getting at.
My point is not whether it was right or wrong, my point is I don't think a person should critisize someone directly and point the finger without knowing what really happened. If it was me, I would have added something before the statement, as I suggested above, but not just come off like "you are guilty and here's what I think of you" because in my eyes, that's what it sounds liek you are doing. Maybe I just am taking it the wrong way. It's not about whether he did it or not, its about telling him you think bad of him without knowing if he even really did it! You are forming an opinion of someone's actions when you don't even know if those actions took place in the way you are assuming they did.
You can express how you feel and your opinion all you want, but why post something telling him "Moral of this issue is .. if you don't like people getting pi$$ed off at you .. don't ride their rear bumper or pull up 5-6 inches away from them at a red light .. there's no excuses for this crap ... and quite frankly, if you had been rear ended you would've done the same to him ... Had I been infront of you and you rode my bumper I too would have had a little talking to you" and it just sounds like when you said that last statement, you are assuming it's a FACT he was riding his bumper. Maybe he wasn't, but why assume it if you don't know it? I would have siad "If someone was riding my bumper, I would have a talking with that person" but by you saying YOU an dYOu and YOU, you are kinda pointing the finger at him for doing something you don't know fact to be true.
DOH AM I making sense? Whether he did it or not isn't what I'm saying, I'm saying how do you KNOW he REALLY did that? None of us DO, so why use I would have done this to YOU and that to YOU when HE may not have done it. It's using someone as an example that may not deserve to, but until you know for sure, I don't think it's nice to use him personally as an example unless he comes and tells you he's guilty of it. Then you can come at him and rip him a crater
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 5:07:50 PM
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And if you meant YOU as a third person rather then YOu as in branstone, then this is all me misunderstanding what YOU meant lol.
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 5:38:41 PM
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No, I ment him .. and yes, I'm pointing my finger .. still .. I don't think stroking his ego and removing the accountability from his actions is the right thing to do .. end of story.
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 5:46:15 PM
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Don't you guy's work?
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RE: Idiots in hybrids - 4/5/2007 5:49:13 PM
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Not on behalf of a good debate, no LOL!
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