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TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz)

07HummerH3 -> TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 10:26:50 AM)
I like the tread design and aggressive appearance of both the TOYO's and Coopers but not sure which is better. Granted I will be using them the majority of the time on the street I would like to know which is more street friendly of the two. I'll be getting 315/75/16's. Thanks.

2luke2 -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 12:05:36 PM)
Just to give my opinion the Toyo MTs aren't that loud at all to me. I can't really hear them over the radio or our conversation. At highway speeds they get a little louder, but no where near unbareable.

HumRluvR -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 12:21:02 PM)
Go with Toyo's, have had mine for about 6 months now, and I'm very happy with the performance, and treadwear of these tires!!! Here's a link to take a peek on the reviews on the Toyo M/T http://www.1010tires.com/TireReviews/Toyo_Open_Country_MT_tire_reviews.html

importkiller -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 12:24:19 PM)
Toyo's (if those are the only two options) I like the coopers too but they are LOUD...at least they are on a 2006 f-350. My friend has them on his ford and he likes them, they seemed to do ok in the mud and snow but if ya gotta pee the vibration from the tires at highway speed will push it right out of you[:D][:D]

07HummerH3 -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 1:14:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: importkiller Toyo's (if those are the only two options) I like the coopers too but they are LOUD...at least they are on a 2006 f-350. My friend has them on his ford and he likes them, they seemed to do ok in the mud and snow but if ya gotta pee the vibration from the tires at highway speed will push it right out of you[:D][:D] Thanks to everyone for the feedback- I guess I will definitely be going with the Coopers due to the noise issues. Is there another that you would put in front of the Toyo's?

H3Tiger -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 1:24:04 PM)
I sell both of these tires in my business, and I have the Toyo's on my rig. The Cooper is a nice tire, but the Toyo is unbeatable for ride comfort, low noise level on the highway, aggressive looks, and actual functionality. I think you will be very happy with the Toyo's. Good luck! Chris

importkiller -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 4:42:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 07HummerH3 quote: ORIGINAL: importkiller Toyo's (if those are the only two options) I like the coopers too but they are LOUD...at least they are on a 2006 f-350. My friend has them on his ford and he likes them, they seemed to do ok in the mud and snow but if ya gotta pee the vibration from the tires at highway speed will push it right out of you[:D][:D] Thanks to everyone for the feedback- I guess I will definitely be going with the Coopers due to the noise issues. Is there another that you would put in front of the Toyo's? do you mean going with the toyo's due to noise issues? Or do you want noisy? Yes there are a few I would put in front of the toyo's...mainly because they are way overpriced...almost as baddly overpriced as bfg and PC. My first choice would have to be Mickey Thompson MTZ...very quiet and smooth tire that will keep up with or surpass toyos in off road traction (most conditions) They are siped so they are great on road in rain/snow/ice. I have turned a few guys on here onto the MTZ's and the are very happy with them. Call Jordan Tire for the best available price. I will get you a number later. MY other choice sould be right behind the mtz's and they are the Parnelli Jones Drit Gripz....very very quiet, way cool tread design and amazing on and off road traction. Only downside is that they do wear slightly faster than the mickey's. They are siped also so they are good on snow,ice,rain. You will be very pleased with either one IMO.

07HummerH3 -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 5:23:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: importkiller quote: ORIGINAL: 07HummerH3 quote: ORIGINAL: importkiller Toyo's (if those are the only two options) I like the coopers too but they are LOUD...at least they are on a 2006 f-350. My friend has them on his ford and he likes them, they seemed to do ok in the mud and snow but if ya gotta pee the vibration from the tires at highway speed will push it right out of you[:D][:D] Thanks to everyone for the feedback- I guess I will definitely be going with the Coopers due to the noise issues. Is there another that you would put in front of the Toyo's? do you mean going with the toyo's due to noise issues? Or do you want noisy? Yes there are a few I would put in front of the toyo's...mainly because they are way overpriced...almost as baddly overpriced as bfg and PC. My first choice would have to be Mickey Thompson MTZ...very quiet and smooth tire that will keep up with or surpass toyos in off road traction (most conditions) They are siped so they are great on road in rain/snow/ice. I have turned a few guys on here onto the MTZ's and the are very happy with them. Call Jordan Tire for the best available price. I will get you a number later. MY other choice sould be right behind the mtz's and they are the Parnelli Jones Drit Gripz....very very quiet, way cool tread design and amazing on and off road traction. Only downside is that they do wear slightly faster than the mickey's. They are siped also so they are good on snow,ice,rain. You will be very pleased with either one IMO. I typed too fast-- I will not go with the coopers due to their noise. I'm probably going to go with the Mickey Thompson MTZ's thanks to your input. Siping is important to me as I don't want trouble in the rain. If the tires on your rig in the pic are MT MTZ's then I'll be very pleased- they look bad ass. You're a guru at this stuff, definitely. P.S.-- H3Tiger, thanks for weighing in on this

H3Tiger -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 6:00:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 07HummerH3 quote: ORIGINAL: importkiller quote: ORIGINAL: 07HummerH3 quote: ORIGINAL: importkiller Toyo's (if those are the only two options) I like the coopers too but they are LOUD...at least they are on a 2006 f-350. My friend has them on his ford and he likes them, they seemed to do ok in the mud and snow but if ya gotta pee the vibration from the tires at highway speed will push it right out of you[:D][:D] Thanks to everyone for the feedback- I guess I will definitely be going with the Coopers due to the noise issues. Is there another that you would put in front of the Toyo's? do you mean going with the toyo's due to noise issues? Or do you want noisy? Yes there are a few I would put in front of the toyo's...mainly because they are way overpriced...almost as baddly overpriced as bfg and PC. My first choice would have to be Mickey Thompson MTZ...very quiet and smooth tire that will keep up with or surpass toyos in off road traction (most conditions) They are siped so they are great on road in rain/snow/ice. I have turned a few guys on here onto the MTZ's and the are very happy with them. Call Jordan Tire for the best available price. I will get you a number later. MY other choice sould be right behind the mtz's and they are the Parnelli Jones Drit Gripz....very very quiet, way cool tread design and amazing on and off road traction. Only downside is that they do wear slightly faster than the mickey's. They are siped also so they are good on snow,ice,rain. You will be very pleased with either one IMO. I typed too fast-- I will not go with the coopers due to their noise. I'm probably going to go with the Mickey Thompson MTZ's thanks to your input. Siping is important to me as I don't want trouble in the rain. If the tires on your rig in the pic are MT MTZ's then I'll be very pleased- they look bad ass. You're a guru at this stuff, definitely. P.S.-- H3Tiger, thanks for weighing in on this No problem. Good luck with your decision. In a sense, you will be going with Cooper after all if you go with the MTZ's. Cooper owns Mickey Thompson. The MTZ is a nice tire too... I've sold quite a few over the years. I personally like the Toyo MT like I said, but they are pricey as importkiller said. Anyway, let us know how you like the MTZ's when you get 'em. They should give you good service too. Take care...

07HummerH3 -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 9:21:11 PM)
I was looking on the Mickey Thompson site and it says that the 315/75R16's are for an 8" wheel.... will they fit on the stock rims or have you guys changed your wheels to accomodate them?

H3Tiger -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/1/2007 11:45:57 PM)
They will fit on the stock wheel but not properly. The problem is that the width of the stock wheel does not allow the tire to spread out like it would on say an 8 1/2" wheel.... the measuring width of the wheel on MT's website. A tire's dimensions and effectiveness is directly related to the fitment on the wheel. Granted, 1/2" is not a dramatic difference in width, and the tire will technically mount fine on the stock wheel. However, the narrowness of the stock wheel can cause the tire to be "pinched" on the wheel and can cause premature wear in the center of the tire. I know plenty of people probably have done this and seemingly have seen no ill-effects from it. I am just pointing out a "possible" concern that you might want to be aware of. Hope this helps... Chris

07HummerH3 -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/2/2007 7:31:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: H3Tiger They will fit on the stock wheel but not properly. The problem is that the width of the stock wheel does not allow the tire to spread out like it would on say an 8 1/2" wheel.... the measuring width of the wheel on MT's website. A tire's dimensions and effectiveness is directly related to the fitment on the wheel. Granted, 1/2" is not a dramatic difference in width, and the tire will technically mount fine on the stock wheel. However, the narrowness of the stock wheel can cause the tire to be "pinched" on the wheel and can cause premature wear in the center of the tire. I know plenty of people probably have done this and seemingly have seen no ill-effects from it. I am just pointing out a "possible" concern that you might want to be aware of. Hope this helps... Chris It definitely clarifies things for me...thanks again

JustHummin -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/2/2007 10:59:32 PM)
FYI - The Cooper SST's and the Mickey Thompson MTZ are both manufactured by Cooper Tire at the same plant in Albany, GA. They use the same molding technology and are very simular tires. Pro's and Con's: Cooper's (including the MTZ) are lighter and generally softer, flex better when aired down and weight less. The Toyo's are quieter, heavier, tougher, and balance better than any MT tire you'll likely run across. They are within $25 of each other, depending on where you buy them, which is not enough for me to decide chiefly on price. If you plan on running lots of smooth rocks and don't care about noise or gas mileage, the Cooper line may be a better bet. If you drive a semi-street queen or indulge in more well rounded off-roading, then the Toyo is a better overall tire. Tires are like shoes, wear what you like, because if they don't feel right after you get them broke in, you'll get a chance to buy some more pretty soon. [;)]

07HummerH3 -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/2/2007 11:07:41 PM)
JustHummin - Thanks for weighing in on this

importkiller -> RE: TOYO M/T or Cooper STT ? (importkiller plz) (4/3/2007 1:37:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JustHummin FYI - The Cooper SST's and the Mickey Thompson MTZ are both manufactured by Cooper Tire at the same plant in Albany, GA. They use the same molding technology and are very simular tires. Pro's and Con's: Cooper's (including the MTZ) are lighter and generally softer, flex better when aired down and weight less. The Toyo's are quieter, heavier, tougher, and balance better than any MT tire you'll likely run across. They are within $25 of each other, depending on where you buy them, which is not enough for me to decide chiefly on price. If you plan on running lots of smooth rocks and don't care about noise or gas mileage, the Cooper line may be a better bet. If you drive a semi-street queen or indulge in more well rounded off-roading, then the Toyo is a better overall tire. Tires are like shoes, wear what you like, because if they don't feel right after you get them broke in, you'll get a chance to buy some more pretty soon. [;)] toyo's quieter than mtz's.....THAT'S funny!!! And the MTZ's are far less than $25 each cheaper than the toyo's...you are shopping at the wrong stores[;)]

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