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FJ Cruiser - 4/3/2006 1:15:28 PM

Cruizer

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Hey have you guys checked out the new 07 Toyota FJ Cruisers? They just got one in here. Seems like it wants to compete with the H3.

I think it's pretty cool (retro throwback and all) and love the molded plastic/rubber floormat interior but the back doors (kinda short suicide doors) won't work for us.

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 4/3/2006 1:20:09 PM

Dennis

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Although you would have Toyota's reliablity and quality in build..it is still a first year car (beware) and in one word...U-G-L-Y

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 4/3/2006 2:00:52 PM

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I have to agree with Dennis they are ugly i saw two so far but not at the dealers i dont now where this guy got them less he a saleman A BLACK ONE AND A SILVER ONE SITTING IN HIS DRIVEWAY HUMMER BETTER LOOKING

I SEARCH MY LOCAL DEALERS THEY DO NOT HAVE THEM.

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 4/10/2006 8:00:09 PM

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I check out one today not bad loaded for $31,000 same motor i had in my 4runner plenty of power little ugly but it will give the H3 some com.

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 4/10/2006 8:17:39 PM

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What is your impression of the interior Mark?..Good fit and finish or sorta cheapo plastic look?

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 4/10/2006 9:38:23 PM

dilo2001gt

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Interior very nice looks like more option the we have and the new interlock shifter.
The only thing i would change is the back lights they stick out to far nice roof rack not like ours like shortbus
and a nice molded back tire cover hard plastic all of it.
I can't wait to the new broncos come out that going to be something they are going to be like the 69 ones thoses where awsome.

They are going to sell that for sure .

But when i pulled away when i was leaving the salesmen where look at mine driving by there eye just followed the truck

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 4/10/2006 9:42:09 PM

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FJ CRUISER

http://www.toyota.com/fjcruiser/index.html?s_van=GM_TN_FJ_INDEX

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 4/10/2006 10:36:23 PM

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Thanks Mark..One more question; Did you happen to notice if the leg room and seating position would be comfortable? And is the cabin space big enough (head room) for a 6'3 guy or gal?..In other words, would it look like I would be wearing it, rather than sitting in it..Know what I mean?

I have to admit, I've always trusted Toyota, I've had Celicas and Supras and they were 100% dependable...So this FJ is getting my attention inspite of it's butt ugly looks...Maybe it's that baby bonnet blue color I don't like so much..I donno

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 4/11/2006 7:39:34 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dennis

Thanks Mark..One more question; Did you happen to notice if the leg room and seating position would be comfortable? And is the cabin space big enough (head room) for a 6'3 guy or gal?..In other words, would it look like I would be wearing it, rather than sitting in it..Know what I mean?

I have to admit, I've always trusted Toyota, I've had Celicas and Supras and they were 100% dependable...So this FJ is getting my attention inspite of it's butt ugly looks...Maybe it's that baby bonnet blue color I don't like so much..I donno

Yes plenty of leg room in the front the back is a little tight
The one i look at was black it was sharp looking and i seen a silver one around that the best color hides scratches and always looks clean

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 4/13/2006 12:50:51 PM

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First time I saw the cruiser I thought Toyota was pulling a joke on us....uglier than a mthrfckr.
Please excuse the lingo.

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 8/8/2006 1:10:10 AM

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I have had an FJ on order for two months with no current eta and I am getting sick of waiting!

I went to one of Toyota's FJ Trail Team events a couple weeks ago and had the chance to drive it off road in some pretty deep WA State mud, water, inclines, and over many stumps and rocks. It was unstoppable with their new A-Trac traction control technology, and was able to climb over some obstacles that folks with lockers were having difficulty with (probably lack of 4x skill).

What comes to mind first when you think of Toyota? Quality? Durability? Resale value? Trucks lasting Hundreds of Thousands of miles? I personally put 196k miles (zero problems) on an 85 Toyo pu and still sold it for $8k 9 years later.

Yes, the FJ is a new vehicle, but they are using all proven underpinnings: Tacoma V6 VVT-i 239hp & 272ftlbs engine, 4Runner V8 Trans, modified 4Runner Suspension, Europe's Land Cruiser Prado frame (slightly modified), with new unique body style; you love it or hate it.

I have come close to buying an H3 at least a dozen times over the last 14-16 months, however I just can't get over the lack of power and acceleration. This is where the FJ excels over the H3, the lighter weight (410lbs lighter) and additional hp (over the 220hp '06), hitting peak torque at 3700 rpm, really make a difference. The FJ can pull 500lbs more, has larger cargo area (+11 cu. ft.) and the other big consideration that can be felt (I'm 6', 250lbs) is the addition 4 inches of shoulder & 1.5 inches of hip room in the FJ. I want to 4x my next rig not pose in it, so if I do buy an H3 it's going to be a cloth adventure series with weather proof seat covers and rubber flooring. That being said you can notch the H3 down to $32k or so. For $29k I can get a fairly loaded FJ (if they can ever deliver) with a rubber floor (no carpet), water proof seating, greater fording capabilities (27.5”), rear lockers, A-Trac, auto trans (ordered with the 6sp Manual) along with cool stuff like rear backup sensors, 110V / 400W 3-prong AC outlet, MP3 aux port to plug in iPod, inclinometer, compass, and temperature gauges.

I am tired of waiting, but I am worried about the durability, quality, and craftsmanship of a GM product. I owned a loaded S-10 ZR2 truck in the mid-90’s that was nearly returned under WA State’s Lemon Law (but that’s another story) and decided then that I shouldn’t own another GM product...

I am interested in hearing the why’s for an H3? Is there decent performance mod’s out there to get the HP & torque up where it needs to be? How about bull bars or bumper replacements for winch options? Any decent suspension upgrades out there? I have zero plans of babying this thing and would love to out perform an FJ on the trail someday if I do buy an H3.

Oh yea, I test drove the Heep Unlimited Bubicon this week too, it's awesome in the mud but worthless on the street.

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 8/8/2006 9:09:29 AM

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The FJ is a great vehicle, don't get me wrong. The H3 lacks acceleration for sure, but you have to remember, the H3 is not a performance vehicle, but rather a ruggid tough durable machine. It isn't marketted to be a super-fast V8 5.7 supercharged powerhorse. I have a 5-speed manual, and I get decent mpg and acceleration, but my towing capacity is lower then the automatic, which I always found odd. You are right about the torque. It could use more, but as far as acceleration, the only bad side I can think of is lane-changing on the highways (which I do 234 times a day).

I think because there are so many SUV's out there that are marketted as being fast and powerful, that people assume the H3 is supposed to fall into those same lines and catagories of those vehicles. That isn't what the H3 is about. The H3 is about having a SUV that you can use as an every-day car (well, until the gas prices went up so high) and be able to take into extreme situations and not have to worry as much about damage as you would in a typical family-oriented SUV. I think people judge the H3 too much because it is compared to other SUV's, and not accepted for what it is. Of course it could use more power, and I'm glad they are going to have more options for that, but in the mean time, it is what it is, which is a durable, dare-I-say reliable (at least for me) vehicle that, even though doesn't have as much space or acceleration as it's competitors, is in a way, in a catagory by itself. I think the FJ, Jeep Wrangler and H1/H2 should be in their own catagory, maybe including the Xterra in there somewhere. The Commander, well, it is a durable off-road vehicle, but sure doesn't have that much ground clearance compared to the others.

Anyway, that's just my opinion :) I understand everything you are saying though.

Waiting two months for your FJ is definitely rediculous though, but I would wait a little longer. It will be worth it, don't you think?

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RE: FJ Cruiser - 8/8/2006 11:33:44 AM

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