RE: H2 not built for off road
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RE: H2 not built for off road - 1/4/2007 9:45:00 AM
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Greenblade
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well a 4-runner in todays day and age is about as good offroad as an Audi A4. similar ground clearance (go check it out sometime, the 4-runner has shockingly poor clearance), and similar level of underbody protection (none).
i;ve had one chance to go out with a 4-runner (06, locking rear diff). Leaving tires and traction aside, simple clearance and approach/departure angles make the H2 HUGELY superior.
and outside of that, the "TCS" in the 4-runner basically works like the one in my Prius as far as i can tell = if the tires spin it brings the vehicles to a stop. The TCS in the H2 is 1000x better, and really good at finding ways to get the wheels to stick.
The H2 comes with the best clearance, underbody protection, tires (IMO, i'd take the BFG ATs over the MTs on the jeep rubicons), traction capacity (locker + TCS) of any stock vehicle, a good suspension, and so forth.
Its downsides are (situationally) weight and size. Alot of "trails" are basically little roads that seem to have been cut for something about the size of a jeep... probably because they were cut through the trees by guys with jeeps, and the width of the H2 can make the going slow at times. Weight can be a detriment in sand and mud, and generally puts more strain on things than lighter vehicles all things equal... But weight is a massive asset in deep winter snow-bogging and various other times offroad.
with respect to breaking, everything can break. and if you offroad an H2 long enough, you'll break something. but a stock H2 can drive places that a stock 4-runner would be 100% guaranteed to break, so the point is moot.
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RE: H2 not built for off road - 1/4/2007 10:40:55 AM
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Greenblade
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just greenies two cents.
in most ways the cocnept of "whats best" for offroading is like asking "who's the best athlete".
in what way? fastest runner, strongest, best fighter, specific skills like basketball or baseball? so many ways to look at it that it becomes hard to really even contemplate the question of "best athlete".
The best rock climbing thing - maybe a rock buggy or something similar - wouldn't be much good in the snow (brrrr) or mud (yuck), i guess. Sometimes it seems like any pickup would be better at real-world offroading than the "best" jeeps. Some of those things get so high and unstable that i'd be scared to go 30mph in them on a city street. Which would make chasing down the neighbors cattle when the fence broke an impossiblity. Weight is good in snow, bad in mud. An H1 is probably the best snow machine. Size is sometimes good (there is a "hummer hill" in moab that was so named because somebody drove an H1 on it sideways, which would be impossible in a jeep), and sometimes bad (i think that an H1 would have a hard time driving down MOST of the trails in the nearest offroad park without huge body damage because they are just too narrow).
It all depends. Probably the H2 and H3 aren't "the best" at anything, but they are really really good.
And about a million times more comfy to ride around in than the average home-made 4x4.
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[quote=hummbob]but these days my idea of ROUGHING IT is when there is NO MINT on the Pillow at the Hotel!![/quote]
[quote=ZYNE]I could live with that but a Hotel without room service ... my gawd what is this world coming to?!?[/quote]
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