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New line for hard rap on economy! - 1/27/2006 8:23:59 AM

Notrick

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I am looking at a possible purchase of an H2 in the Silver/grey...nice, real nice. I have heard about non-owners constantly putting the vehicles down for the hurtful things they do to the environment. Well here is a new thought, if one considers that global warming is the most dangerous event we as humans face and that a big contributor is the gas vehicle. You must remember that the ozone layer repairs itself in a 40 year time frame and that can begin the faster we run out of oil....so the bigger the vehicle the faster we use it up and switch to alternatives. So the higher mileage vehicles postpone the inevitable. High mileage cars are trying to save a finite resource, how ridiculous is that? The Hummer is far more "green" in this scenario due to its greater use of fuel. Pushing the price of a barrel of oil closer to $ 75-90 per barrel will kick in alternatives. And those alternatives will help the environment and hopefully run the big beautiful Hummer's of the future.

Now, I know it's way out but think about it and BURN ER UP. You have a new argument for the tree huggers who can not see the WHOLE picture.
John

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RE: New line for hard rap on economy! - 2/3/2006 1:09:45 PM

Patrick

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people whine about how bad the emissions are on vehicles,yet factories do ten times the damage that vehicles do,..its silly, really...

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RE: New line for hard rap on economy! - 2/3/2006 1:42:25 PM

Dennis

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ORIGINAL: Patrick

people whine about how bad the emissions are on vehicles,yet factories do ten times the damage that vehicles do,..its silly, really...

yeah!..And not to even mention what Volcanoes can do too.

While we're on the subject..

I didn't just fall off the turnip wagon yesterday (50 years ago I did though)..I have a degree in a major science discipline...So I have done more than casual reasearch in this area...

1. Human existence is only a speck of time compared to the age of the Earth (4.5 billion years). The world as we know it is only going through one of the many life cycles of its natural evolution...Historical data from before man shows some striking similarities to today’s weather patterens..How do you explain OIL under the ice and tundra above the Artic circle?..Oil is a byproduct of living vegetation and animal life..Today that region hardly supports moss...But some gazillion years ago it was a plush garden of Eden, so what Happened then??..Man wasn't around yet to blame the change on...So I will admit, we the HUMAN race maybe helping speed this natural evolution of Earth's weather patterens..But not enough that it will cause cataclysmic changes before nature normally would take its own course.

Maybe you should look at it this way: The weather today is different compared to yesterday, but all seems normal over the course of time.

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RE: New line for hard rap on economy! - 2/7/2006 1:56:15 PM

doyle2864

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I get yelled at sometimes, but my husband drives an F-250 heavy duty extended pickup and gets the same milage as my H2, no one seems to mine him, just think they all wish they could have the H2
Annette

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RE: New line for hard rap on economy! - 3/19/2006 5:21:17 AM

Greenblade

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I get yelled at sometimes, but my husband drives an F-250 heavy duty extended pickup and gets the same milage as my H2, no one seems to mine him, just think they all wish they could have the H2
Annette

Bingo.

few hummer haters can afford one. Bingo on the pickups not taking any flak either. And while its true that many hummers never see an offroad site, ... many pickups are driven out to dinner and the bar more often than anywhere near a corn field. No, MOST pickups are driven to the store and dinner more than anywhere near a corn field.

I would like to enter another thought along these lines as well. I respect the view of persons that don't approve of SUV popularity over mileage, etc., and so on. While it is very unlikely that cars are huge contributors to global warming, ozone, etc., i respect their opinion and views. Also the danger than at H2 is to a civic driver (or percieved danger), and the blocking-my-view factor, and all of that.

I don't expect anybody to be pro-SUV, and part of why the h2 is so hated/reviled at times by some is because it's the MOST of everything the SUV's stand for, and it's so in-your-face, it's so obvious what it is, and it's in the upper echelon of SUV prices. blah blah blah

But it isn't the H2 that people should freak out at over mileage. It's the general obsession with horsepower. I had an old mazda 4-door car that probably had 100 horsepower if that, and it got 30-35 on the highway. Olds Callais with the 2.5 4 banger - HIGH 30's on the highway. '91 Prelude sporty car, 140 horsepower. '06 civic cheap little car = 200 horsepower. '99 monte carlo = 30's on the highway, 20's around town. '06 monte carlo = consumer reports 17mpg reported average. but the new one has 305 horsies -vs- probably low 100's for the 3.1 V6 in my '99

The power of cars is rising, and it doesn't seem to me that the MPG ratings (especially from sites reporting surveys of actual owners and their estimates of mileage) Car makers fault? nope, consumers fault. People want horsepower and they don't apparently care about mileage. The makers only react to supply and demand.

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