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RE: Leveling H3 - 9/29/2006 1:25:45 PM

importkiller

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do any of you have the offraod suspension package ? If so look at the t bar and see if it has this part number on it .
T bar LF 0393346 ZJ

there is not difference in suspension on any of the h3 packages. Only difference is the adventure off road package comes with different shocks...that's it. Everything else in the suspension is identical!!! Basers can fit 35's the same as adventure package can.

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RE: Leveling H3 - 9/29/2006 1:31:26 PM

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You don't need to raise it at all. A 10 year old can turn those things. All you need is a socket wrench with a 1 1/16 socket. They turn very easily. I would not go beyong 2 complete turns. I turned it 1/2 way at a time, went for a drive to get it readjusted, then came back and did another half turn. Mine are 1 3/4 on each side right now. That almost did the trick. I wouldn't push it if I were you. It's not the right way to do it anyway, but it works, and you'll be happy with how it looks afterwords.

Mike, there is absolutely no adverse effects on anything in the suspension by cranking the t-bars....none! you'll notice a more harsh,firm ride if you over crank just because you limiting the amount of travel left between your bumpstop. Do a search on here I posted an article written by a t-bar company that explains everything there is to know about t-bars and how it won't effect anything by turning them. Personally I have my left side turned 3 times and my right side 2 1/2 turns to even it out.

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RE: Leveling H3 - 9/29/2006 9:38:49 PM

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I did 2 1/2 turns on each side with the truck on the ground, took about 5 minutes to do. It raised the front a little over 1 1/4 inches at the center of the wheel opening with it's relatively heavy SMA brush guard. Note that if you do this on the ground you will have to drive your truck a few feet before you can measure the actual rise.

Now it looks and sits about as level as I wanted it to (perfect). In my opinion, the ride is actually little bit softer, maybe because of the slight added travel before the front end contacts the bump-stops? In any event, it seems to float over big pot holes a bit better than before. Otherwise, I haven't really noticed any change in ride, handling, or steering. (We'll see for sure at the next Auto X event that we enter.

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This slight free change in "Altitude" changed the whole "Attitude" of my (wife's) truck!

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RE: Leveling H3 - 9/29/2006 10:08:11 PM

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Hey Shortbus, does the same go for the H2?

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RE: Leveling H3 - 9/30/2006 10:59:26 PM

CerberusSVT

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threadjack/update on my t-bar situation: I cranked em yesterday (drivers side 3, pass side 2) and I can appreciate the new look of the raised up front, but I was kinda hoping for more.. and I don't want to crank them anymore because I can't really afford anything going wrong on my rig. One question though... why is my passenger side fender about a half inch higher than my driver side? Do the t bars affect the opposite side of the truck or is my rig just doofy?

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RE: Leveling H3 - 10/1/2006 11:36:14 AM

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could somebody post a picture of the t-bar?

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RE: Leveling H3 - 10/1/2006 2:56:53 PM

Dennis

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Torsion bar Looking forward (Driver's side)

Torsion bar engaged into control arm of front suspension

Adjustment bolt (I think a 25 MM bolt..CW to raise front end)

Top of adjusting bolt in torsion key..

Are these kinda like what you meant by pictures of the T-bar?

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RE: Leveling H3 - 10/1/2006 3:45:43 PM

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its easy to find, lay on your back, its under the back seat area of your truck, pointing downward from the frame (facing the ground). Its a big hex bolt that looks exactly like the one that the wrench is on in dennis' pictures. its a 1 1/16th inch socket that fits it if I recall correct.

Why is one side slightly higher than the other??? I even over adjusted my drivers side to try to raise it up a bit more to equal it out... :(

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RE: Leveling H3 - 10/1/2006 9:29:15 PM

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Are these kinda like what you meant by pictures of the T-bar?

Perfect!! Thanks!!!!!

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RE: Leveling H3 - 10/2/2006 8:17:31 AM

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I did mine 2 1/2 turns left and right. much better looking and the ride is also better , I was getting alot of bump steer befor I raised it ,Prob because they sit on the bump stops. Thanks Guy's

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RE: Leveling H3 - 10/2/2006 8:24:02 AM

CerberusSVT

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does this look like I turned my t-bars enough/right?

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RE: Leveling H3 - 10/2/2006 4:03:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: CerberusSVT

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i'd recommend that you get an alignment though. anytime you change the way the suspension handles the front end it's a good idea. cranking the adjustment keys pushes up on the control arm, and now that i think about it, that pushes the bottom of you tire out, not in, so you'll get uneven wear on the inside, not outside. either way, and alignment is a good investment, cheaper than tires.

if I take it off some sweet jumps, does that count? j/k, I'll get an alignment after I give the suspension to settle

Thanks guys! I'll take some before after pictures :)

It's not a SledgeHammer! Gosh!

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RE: Leveling H3 - 10/2/2006 4:41:03 PM

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Hey Shortbus, does the same go for the H2?

all my comments are based on the H2, it's all i have experience with. for the H3, i'm basically talking out my ass, since i've never adjusted one. still, the mechanics and physics are basically the same, so i would say there's little if any difference between the 2 aside from size (mine's bigger !). an alignment is always a good bet anytime you mess with the front suspension, but it's up to each individual as to the value of an alignment vs. a chance to get new shoes.