HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE
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HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 9/27/2006 4:47:03 PM
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xroperx
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[size=7]I purchased my 2006 H3 Oct 2005. Since then, it has been in the shop 12xs- for "Head and Cylinder" issues. I've had 2 head replacements already and its in the shop as I speak for possibly the 3rd head replacement. I am pursuing arbitration but already have a case with an attorney. Up to now I thought that I just had a "lemon" but as I continue to read these forums I realize its not just my vehicle and could possibly have a "class action" here. If anyone has anymore information,complaints,etc. Please email me
m_roper@bellsouth.net. Thanks
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 9/29/2006 8:37:51 PM
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btstyx
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Same problem here. 2 heads within 12k miles. but at least they are telling me the same thing they told me the first time. Which is I should be all set now. What a line of sh-t. Gm and my dealership have a nasty habit of not being upfront with there customers. I was told in Feb when I had my first repair that they had put in a redisigned head. Only to find out that the new design was not out till april. Another diturbing issue is that all the part numbers are exactly the same as the first repair. If they have redisigned any part wouldn.t you assign a new part number? Gm told me after I brought this to there attention that they do have a service bulletin out on the head change and specifically states no part number change. I have yet to see the bulletin. Should I have faith that a new head got in that vehicle. I don't know. But the bigger question is how do they know if part numbers are exactly the same. Also why would the labor be cut down to 8 hrs from 22 hrs if they haven't seen a bunch of these come in. I called four dealerships Dobles Manchester, Herb Chambers Mass, Long cadillac, ALL have said they have had dozens come in. Small sample big problem. Service manager at Herb Chambers actually told me that earlier than march they would recieve the same head and then send it out to be machined. Also he was told by GM to expect them back. Whether they have actually fixed the problem or not I truly do not know. But what I do know is that people are still having this problem. The guy who was in front of me in the rental car line was in for the same issue only his first repair came at 31k. so in my book No one is completely clear of this problem. in this post alone we have a grand six heads that proves this is more than just random.
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 9/29/2006 9:24:28 PM
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btstyx
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Hi Dennis, Have you seen any service bulletin that states new designed head with no part # change. This is what my service manager is telling me . He also gave me a date on this of 4-1-06. I cannot find it anywhere. Why no part # change? Why find a shorter labor time if there is only a few. Also I heard they do not have to drop the oil pan for this repair. This all just seems odd. GM swears up and dowm that there is nothing wrong with the head and the problem is rare. If so why redisign the part? I personally have gone to the better business bureau on this but I have also put in a complaint to the fed trade commision and nhtsa. All i want is a straight answer. I would absolutely love to talk to you on a land line. you have alot of knowledge and maybe you could help me understand just who and what is going on here.
Thank you
Barry
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 10/1/2006 2:55:17 AM
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btstyx
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That's a question I wish I could answer. I can only go by what I am told by GM. GM told me the head was a new design. I personally have heard that it was the valve guides. GM also told me there is a bulletin that states head has new design part change not needed. If you would like to look up this bulletin they told me it came out on 4-1-06. Maybe if you had this problem you would not be as skeptical as I am.
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 10/1/2006 3:00:02 AM
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btstyx
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If it is the valve guides , without a part number change how does anyone know what is old and new? If they do know why would they put the old castings in. Makes no sense.
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 10/3/2006 11:34:03 PM
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xroperx
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thanks for the reply...It's quite ironic that we have been told the same exact thing but still can not get a straight answer. I picked up my h3 monday before last, after they kept it for 2 weeks..said they had to make an "adjustment" on the 2nd headreplacement. I had it 3 hours and my check engine light was back on, it was very sluggish..etc. I brought it back on Tuesday, they said a vacuum hose was loose, picked it up on Wed., drove it almost home and the check engine light came on again with the same symptoms, but this time I drove it straight to an attorney. My H3 has been in shop now over 12 times with "head, valve, cylinder" issues. After speaking with an attorney we decided to pursue arbitration before we go ahead and sue them. We have more than enough for the "Lemon Law" to kick in. This attorney is drooling for this case. For someone to say its happening only on the "east" is terribly wrong. We are in New Orleans and our dealership alone has seen more than they wish of this same issue. I'm going to see what they have to offer and if not then I'll go from there....along with anyone else who wants to join in. We have also been told that ALL 2006 H3's will at some point have to replace theirs. It does make since about the mileage thing though. I have 30,000 miles already on mine. Well, I'll keep you updated on any information I get and hope you'll do the same.
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 10/4/2006 9:14:36 AM
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HummerGuy
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Who told you that all 2006 H3's will eventually have this problem? If this is true, that is really troublesome to me. I already have 21k miles on my H3 after about a year, and have had absolutely no engine problems, even after switching back and forth between 93 and 87 octane a few times. You should definitely keep us posted as to what happens. If somebody from GM told you they will ALL go bad eventually, that is a HUGE deal. That should be grounds for a recall. Thanks for letting us know the details.
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