RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 11/6/2006 4:10:58 PM
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beachman
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Check engine light first... then sluggish... then at stop/park, the idle was awful... this all within a span of two days.
It has been in twice for 4 wheel drive failures and once for stability errors...
The service department has been cool, they are sending someone to get it and bringing it back to me when it is fixed...really can't complain, except that I want to drive it...
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 11/6/2006 7:26:29 PM
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Fireman
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I talked to the sevice tech guys at the off road event, while we were eating lunch. they said they have each done several of the following: heads, rear diffs, front diffs, 4wd actuator motors.
I figure it's only a matter of time before some of which will need to be done to our H3, given the law of averages. However, I do hope that it solves the issue for good. I'm willing to endure a little to keep the H3. I like it so far, and if I can get through any tough spots, I'd like to end up on the other side with a reliable vehicle, that I enjoy.
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 11/9/2006 9:18:29 PM
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TonyM315
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Hi Gang-
I am new here - and I hate for my first post to be about this issue - but I figured I'd better chime in. Two weeks ago, at about 6900 miles, our H3 began to exhibit the symptoms others have described in this thread. Sluggish, very rough cold starts and rough idle - along with a check engine light.
Checked the owners' manual - and I chalked up the warning to a bad tank of gas (we were on a road trip and I used a different brand from what I normally used). Ran through that tank and filled it up again with the usual brand, check engine light went off - but rough running continued. Next day, the check engine light went back on - and it flashed a few times at stoplights. Figured it was not the gas - and it was time to bring it in. Called Onstar diagnostics and started laughing. The operator tells me I need to stop driving the vehicle immediately and have it towed to the nearest dealer. Report they had was an engine misfire condition. Finally got it into the dealer and...
Sure enough - head and valve issue -- along with cams that had surface rust / pitting on them -- along with a bad timing chain tensioner. On a vehicle with 6900 miles? Build date was 03/06.
Parts needed to be ordered - truck was in the shop for two weeks and I just got it back tonight. Seems to running OK - and no leaks at this point - which they told me to watch for. Will continue to keep an eye on it. To the dealer's credit - they (at least seem) to be straight about everything, provided another H3 as a loaner vehicle, etc. Service director at dealership stated that between their two dealerships in the Minneapolis / St. Paul area they have done 30 of these repairs on 2006 H3s.
Time will tell - but this was really disappointing. First GM vehicle we've owned - and candidly we love the truck - but this was a real bummer. Will keep you posted on the progress - and if something else happens. This business I'm reading of multiple heads being replaced is really concerning.
My wife and I couldn't do much except laugh about this and shake our heads. When we purchased, we were deciding between the H3 and a Toyota FJ Cruiser. Truly sad, but now we're questioning if we made the right choice. We really like the H3, but have lost a lot of confidence in the vehicle at this point.
Thanks - and I look forward to contributing to the forum - hopefully on more positive topics. Bottom line is this issue appears to not be isolated to a particular region - and is pretty prominent up in the midwest.
< Message edited by TonyM315 -- 11/9/2006 10:02:50 PM >
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 11/13/2006 12:53:05 AM
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z
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Put me on the list. Just over 30k. What was the lawyer’s name? I will take mine in tomorrow and see what they tell me. My engine light is on and engine idles rough.
< Message edited by z -- 11/13/2006 12:57:01 AM >
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 11/13/2006 12:17:34 PM
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cnynctry
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I can tell you it's not going to do much good to get a lawyer involved at this time. The dealer will fix the problem so you end up with no case. The right thing to do is send a report to the NHTSA Office of Defects Investigation. I went through this with a motorcycle problem. Once the NHTSA gets enough of these reports the manufacturer will narrow down the effected group of trucks and do a recall and may even extend your warenty. It is a safty issue when it stops giving you the power you need to get across the intersection, train tracks, freeway on ramp.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 11/13/2006 12:54:56 PM
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z
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Well it's official, they are replacing the head. The service guy explained that this is his 3rd replacement at his dealership. They should do a recall. When I purchased my 96 Toyota Tacoma they did a recall on the head gasket. I can respect a recall but not when one is keeping quiet in trying to keep an image. Also I complaint about having trouble shifting into 4th gear between 2000-25000 rpm's and the service guy explained that It will need some seals replaced to include some drive shaft parts and broken gears inside? I'm thinking hard on slapping the For Sale badge on it? Maybe A lawyer will get a recall done on it?
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 11/14/2006 9:33:04 AM
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beachman
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I got my Hummer back... 3 days later --- the service manager explained they had to put a new designed head in... whatever... It is running okay, but now makes a large rattling noise on the right front side, weird enough, doesnt happen when someone sits in the passenger's seat.
I told my service manager and salesperson, that if this truck breaks while i am on the beach fishing, i will l let the sea take it away...
Disgruntled H3 owner...
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 11/14/2006 10:36:23 AM
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HummerGuy
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This isn't too promising. I have 23k miles on mine and no problems, but this kinda sucks considering we all have to drive around with our H3's wondering if and when it's suddenly not going to start the next day. That's very dissappointing, especially considering it's supposed to be so ruggid. Differentials are breaking left and right, head gaskets are bad, pretty soon they'll say my magnets don't work. THEN I'm going to be upset 
Time to start looking for a second car to park in the new garage. Since there is no public transportation where I'm moving to, I would be literally screwed if I couldn't start my car, let alone drive it.
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RE: HEAD AND VALVE ISSUE - 11/14/2006 1:33:47 PM
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Linus Gump
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The number one rule in the media is, "Bad News Sells!" Think about the thousands of H3s running around out there with no problems vs the few hundred or so with problems. You never hear from the ones that run great. Nobody ever gets on and says, "Damn! I wish my H3 would fall apart, it runs too good." What you do hear, is people coming unglued because they bought a mechanical device that is subject to failure, and complaining that it did actually fail. Thier rant continues on to the poor customer service in the service departmnet of thier local dealer. I bet most of these stories would be nothing more than a heads-up post to tell you about a problem if the dealerships had first rate customer service. If anything, the most important thing to be taken from their stories is where not to take your vehicle, or exect a runaround if you must go there.
I wouldn't necissarily look for another vehcile just because yours might break. All automobiles are mechanical devices that are subject to fail. Some manufacturers have a better reputaion of building vehicles with a low prrobability of failure, but there hasn't been a single make or model that hasn't produced a few underpar individuals. General Motors and AM General have a high reputation of building vehicles with an average low probability. If they didn't GM wouldn't have the long list of models sold world wide, and AM General wouldn't have had a govenment contract for the last 30 or so years, if not longer.
< Message edited by Linus Gump -- 11/14/2006 1:35:42 PM >
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