RE: GM and Hummer to split?
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RE: GM and Hummer to split? - 6/3/2008 9:21:29 AM
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HumminNBoatin
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If I owned a Dearlership I would be extremely Pissed. GM sure does not know how to treat its dealers. For example Hummer of Cincinati was built 3 years ago. So Millions Spent and GM dumps you after less than a Decade. That is so nice. As you can tell im no GM fan at all. I never have been. I just happen to love my Hummer. But I honestly think that Chryser or Ford could turn it around damn quick
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RE: GM and Hummer to split? - 6/3/2008 9:45:57 AM
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Doc Olds
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Boy, sounds a little NOID in this thread gang. "radical change in how we comsum power". WTH?
I still have 40 year old piston driven motorcycles and cars, and .....booo whoo, wow-is me, if it costs a whole dollar more a gallon this year than it did last year, I just won't know what to do????  Uh.....spend a whole extra buck! 
Get a grip. 
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RE: GM and Hummer to split? - 6/3/2008 10:48:21 AM
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Gas is still cheap. Anyone that lived through the last oil crisis remembers the panic and regret of selling nice cars for tuna cans on wheels. No, I don't think the world is ending, or "It's different this time". We won't see $0.99/gal ever again, but the market will settle down and gas prices won't rise to infinity. I like my H2, hell, I love all of my V8s, and I'll park them out front and make expensive lawn furniture out of them before I capitulate!
Good Luck GM, I hope they survive to keep making the finest cars in America. I always laugh when I see an asian car with a "BUY LOCAL" bumpersticker, what ever happened to "BUY AMERICAN"?
Sorry for the rant, it's looking pretty bad for GM right now, and my wife works for a supplier that'll probably close because of the 4 truck plant closings, so I'm a bit pissed off right now.
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RE: GM and Hummer to split? - 6/3/2008 11:21:28 AM
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Gas is still cheap. Anyone that lived through the last oil crisis remembers the panic and regret of selling nice cars for tuna cans on wheels. No, I don't think the world is ending, or "It's different this time". We won't see $0.99/gal ever again, but the market will settle down and gas prices won't rise to infinity. I like my H2, hell, I love all of my V8s, and I'll park them out front and make expensive lawn furniture out of them before I capitulate!
Good Luck GM, I hope they survive to keep making the finest cars in America. I always laugh when I see an asian car with a "BUY LOCAL" bumpersticker, what ever happened to "BUY AMERICAN"?
Sorry for the rant, it's looking pretty bad for GM right now, and my wife works for a supplier that'll probably close because of the 4 truck plant closings, so I'm a bit pissed off right now.
Thank you! Exactly what I am thinking.
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RE: GM and Hummer to split? - 6/3/2008 11:57:50 AM
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I agree. It is a strategic rethink and it could actually be good. Hopefully they will consider the 2x4x option in all Hummers. That would pick up mpg 20%. Also the hedge funds are the biggest single factor on oil costs right now. Get them out of the speculative market and we have $80/barrel oil. Watch the actions of the SEC over the next year. Just like a bunch of telecom and chip execs went to jail....just keep watching the news.
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RE: GM and Hummer to split? - 6/3/2008 1:39:00 PM
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Doc Olds
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You................are an asshat. You obviuosly are clueless as to what a Hummer costs. I don't get any "looks" in mine here in Motorcity, that is for the exotics, muscle cars, and sports cars. I bought my truck, because I use it for what it is for, a truck to haul chit off road to locations where I recreate.
How my Hummer, or somebody elses is causing imminent death to anybody must be part of the specialty that god brought you to earth for to understand. Pinhead, I drive old muscle cars, they get crappy mileage too, soo friggin what? You and your tree huggin gayboys gonna tell me I have to ride a vespa to get 60 MPG intead of my Harley that gets 40mpg?? Kiss my azz moron, see the ban train is on the way troll boy.
My H3 is smaller than most full size trucks, and you only wish you could rub and mouth my penis you scagg. Have a nice day wiggler!
Go shag your Prius Bevis.
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RE: GM and Hummer to split? - 6/3/2008 2:16:13 PM
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3hummers
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Hey H_S. Not my job to feed the starving pot bellied impoverished of the world. That is for empty minded liberals like you to take care of. I see that you can't contain your jealousy of the fact that we work and earn enough money to drive the cars we want and you are stuck driving your econobox POS. I guess you are so F&*king ignorant that you haven't figured out the big pickup trucks, Excursions, Range Rovers, vans, etc are far worse than Hummers on MPG. You want some rough fun? Quit being an anonymous e-terrorist and come out from behind your keyboard you big pu$$y.
< Message edited by 3hummers -- 6/3/2008 2:55:13 PM >
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RE: GM and Hummer to split? - 6/3/2008 2:36:07 PM
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wantitforfree
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Geez, ockie, who peed in your cheerios?
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Do you even own a hummer or are you here to troll.
I've been a lurker on this board for a while. I read this and a couple of other forums for SUV owners, of which I am one. No, I don't own a Hummer. Am I still allowed to post here? Do I have your permission?
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Because from this ignorant post, I doubt that you have ever even sat in a hummer.
What about my post was ignorant? Please be more specific.
And, yes, I have driven my brother's H2 on occasion. It's big, fun and drinks lots of gas. He's not about to sell it. Again, can I post now, daddy?
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You should know that the H3 gets 20mpg, better than any other SUV in it's class, it also beats most smaller SUV's also. H2 Diesel will be out late this year, beating all other SUV's in it's class, even the Hybrid crap coming out... not to mention towing capacity.
Point taken, I did not take into account the H3.
Diesel is in higher demand than gasoline worldwide. I'm glad to hear that GM has made advancements in these areas, but diesel is amongst the costliest fuels available right now. Unless the diesel technology about to be offered is on par with the turbo diesels coming out of europe and japan (VW and Honda, resepectively), I'm not holding my breath for an efficiency breakthrough, but please tell me if I'm wrong here.
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So I don't get where you get the notion down that "radical" advancements needs to be made... because there are hundreds, if not thousands of other cars out there that gets a much poorer gas milage... and it doesn't even need to be an SUV.
You are mixing apples and oranges in your argument. If you don't think that radical advancements need to be made in energy production and consumption, you are a luddite (look it up). Yes, there are plenty of cars that get rotten gas mileage; previously mentioned brother also owns a Ford Expedition and I think its mileage is not as good as the Hummer, I could be wrong. MPG are not the only thing to consider when you decide what to drive, but the piper must be paid.
As for 'hybrid crap', I play to trade my gasoline powered Ford (which gets about 22 MPG Hwy) in for a hybrid in a couple of years when the critter I own now has run its course. I'll ask you this: If GM developed a hybrid drive system that were efficient and powerful for the Hummer, would you buy one, or do you just like busting on the word 'hybrid'?
Call it crap all you want. When we're paying as much for gasoline as the rest of the world here in the US, the economics of the situation will be laid plain, IMHO.
See you at the pump.
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RE: GM and Hummer to split? - 6/3/2008 2:41:44 PM
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wantitforfree
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Also the hedge funds are the biggest single factor on oil costs right now. Get them out of the speculative market and we have $80/barrel oil. Watch the actions of the SEC over the next year. Just like a bunch of telecom and chip execs went to jail....just keep watching the news.
Now, that is an interesting point. I would be most happy and interested to see the SEC step up to the plate in this situation.
An interesting side note here is that refineries are really biting the big one in this whole spike in fuel prices. They are losing tons of money and in many cases are not affiliated with the oil companies.
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RE: GM and Hummer to split? - 6/3/2008 8:10:39 PM
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tollonodre
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Also the hedge funds are the biggest single factor on oil costs right now. Get them out of the speculative market and we have $80/barrel oil. Watch the actions of the SEC over the next year. Just like a bunch of telecom and chip execs went to jail....just keep watching the news.
Ah, not true - sorry. Although it's often repeated on the cable networks so they can fill the time with people yelling at each other.
For a good read on what's really going on, try this article in the Economist:
Double, double, oil and trouble
Is it "peak oil" or a speculative bubble? Neither, really
http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11453090
Oil will eventually fall, for the normal economic principles that drive the prices of all commodities. But it's not going to fall back very much.
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