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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 4/30/2008 8:48:41 PM   
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Alien it doesn't cost $1200.00 to mount and balance tires on a Hummer rim with or without runflats. The runflat is the wildcard for many tire places.


Ok... but that is what they are charging me.  Franks refuses to do the work... they either dont have someone to do it or dont have the "tools".  Whatever.  Sewell's parts/service guy knows squat about H1s and quoted me $250/tire to mount and balance (he was unable to break down that price for me so I could understand wherefor).  Classic quoted me $120/hr with a min/max of 7 to 10hrs (they were the only dealership to offer a loaner vehicle).  That information is as of the last couple of days.

So... I came to these forums looking for help with just this problem.  I found some aftermarket rims w/o runflats that are of a more standard/acceptable size (4x 18" Cepek - G.T. Wheel w/hidden CTIS and 4500 lb load capacity but w/o runflats + some Toyo MTs 37(38?)/12.5/18 x4 = about 3200), I found that these Dallas dealerships are trying to screw me, but I have not found anyone here in Dallas that can do anything for me for less than 1000 to 1200 to mount and balance. 

Oh... I had alread bought the Radial IROKs 37/12.5/16.5 x4 before I found out about the aftermarket stuff so you will probably see me posting the facter rims with brand new IROKs on them soon.  I was turned down by three other tire places before I just gave up on getting someone else (besides the dealership) to put the IROKs on for me today (Discount Tire, Tire King, and someplace else).

That about sums it up.  If you know where I can go and not pay that price... I am listening.

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/1/2008 5:41:28 AM   
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first... regarding the Hummer in a crash.... that all depends on what you hit..... Hummers, when they hit other hummers or alike, I don't think really have that great of a crush zone, so watch those ankles, wrists, heads etc.... you have a steel dor not too far from your head if in a side imnpact.... plus not a whole lot of steel between the outside and the frame.... so... again it all depends....

relative to the tires... get the 2 pc wheels and then do the work yourself.... the only thing left is to have them balanced which you can then do at a tire shop / dealer.... just beware, some places will want to shave your tire... the BEST way to balance a tire is from a roadforce balance where they will apply a load to the tire while its spinning....


What do you mean they will "shave" my tires?  How do you tell if they are going to do that or have done that already?  I dont think I want that done ... at all...

Roadforce Balancer?  Is that the machine that balances the tires?


Yes, they will actually "cut" rubber from your tires to balance out the weight..... the road-force I believe is a trade name but it might just be the name for the operation of balancing.... some tire-shops don't know what this is, but when I had it done it was around $150 for 4 tires.....

If you are looking for someone to help you out with your setup, you likely need to spend some time on humvee.net's webforum as I know there are other Hummer owners in your area who can answer your questions.... I know there was one owner near Ft Worth who looked at a Hummer for me prior to purchase....

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/1/2008 12:26:18 PM   
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first... regarding the Hummer in a crash.... that all depends on what you hit..... Hummers, when they hit other hummers or alike, I don't think really have that great of a crush zone, so watch those ankles, wrists, heads etc.... you have a steel dor not too far from your head if in a side imnpact.... plus not a whole lot of steel between the outside and the frame.... so... again it all depends....

relative to the tires... get the 2 pc wheels and then do the work yourself.... the only thing left is to have them balanced which you can then do at a tire shop / dealer.... just beware, some places will want to shave your tire... the BEST way to balance a tire is from a roadforce balance where they will apply a load to the tire while its spinning....


What do you mean they will "shave" my tires?  How do you tell if they are going to do that or have done that already?  I dont think I want that done ... at all...

Roadforce Balancer?  Is that the machine that balances the tires?


Yes, they will actually "cut" rubber from your tires to balance out the weight..... the road-force I believe is a trade name but it might just be the name for the operation of balancing.... some tire-shops don't know what this is, but when I had it done it was around $150 for 4 tires.....

If you are looking for someone to help you out with your setup, you likely need to spend some time on humvee.net's webforum as I know there are other Hummer owners in your area who can answer your questions.... I know there was one owner near Ft Worth who looked at a Hummer for me prior to purchase....


Thank you Sir for the information and advice.

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/1/2008 1:45:14 PM   
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Did you get a hold of Sam?

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/1/2008 3:17:11 PM   
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Did you get a hold of Sam?


I had no contact info for Sam, so I am dropping off the Hummer at Classic tomorrow morning and getting a loaner for the weekend...

Classic says that one piece rims or two piece does not matter.  It is going to take them 7 to 10hrs labor but I got the rate down to $105/hr for mounting and balancing.  It still sucks, but I dont really have any other options that are available immediately.

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/1/2008 3:41:09 PM   
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Sure glad us southern ontario folks have Phil. Would hate to pay that much to get a set of tires mounted and balanced.

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/1/2008 4:06:52 PM   
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Check your PMs. I sent Sam's contact info.

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/5/2008 5:00:49 PM   
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I saw a photo in the local paper last year where an H2 was hit head on by a Jeep Honcho at speed. The Jeep went to pass someone and didn't get back over quick enough. The front of the H2 was messed up bad and the driver's door had popped out and back, but the Jeep was destroyed and the driver died. The H2 driver came out with a broken foot. Then they mentioned that the impact had skewed the H2 to the right and wacked a phone pole with the passenger rear door. I had to show the article to my wife to give her an idea of how tough her truck was. Wonder what the damage would have been had the H2 had a Road Armor bumper on it???

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/5/2008 6:21:59 PM   
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I have seen a few messed up H2s ( Muddy's for one ) but most survived their accidents pretty well and certainly far better than whatever they ran into.

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/5/2008 11:51:50 PM   
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Alien it doesn't cost $1200.00 to mount and balance tires on a Hummer rim with or without runflats. The runflat is the wildcard for many tire places.


How Strong is My H1?   hmmmm... my H1 is so strong that it took a man 10hrs to change the tires.  And 3hummers... you were right.  It didnt cost me $1200.  Nope... only cost me $1075.

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/6/2008 1:52:56 AM   
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I have that ibistek front bumper:



I hope I'll never crash it like that:



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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/6/2008 6:42:49 AM   
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That is a bumper. What did they hit?

Alien you only got screwed to the tune of about $400.00.

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/6/2008 8:57:00 AM   
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i like the run flats in the hummer wheels. they are there for two reasons. 1) if the tire gets shreaded it will get you out of what ever you are in and get you to flat ground. 2) they are also bead locks just incase you run the tire pressure low to drive in sand or what ever they keep the tires from dismounting.

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/6/2008 10:10:32 AM   
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Mike,

How good are the run flats in an offroad situation? If you were in deep sand or mud how well would they work? Fortunately I have never had to resort to using them but it would seem they would not be that effective in a lot of situations.

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RE: How Strong Is Your H1? - 5/6/2008 10:28:57 AM   
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i'd imagine in you were in deep sand or mud and your tire blew out it would just be like airing down and would really give you alot of traction but also would reduce your clearence but hey would still have more clearence if you didnt have runflats in the same situation.
Me Myself.... I dont run runflats the reason why... They didnt come with my truck and are currently not in my budget heh. But When I get some 2 piece wheels I might just end up buying a set.

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