RE: Does this Disturb anyone else??
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RE: Does this Disturb anyone else?? - 1/6/2008 1:27:09 AM
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TheGunnyRet
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This is America, be glad we can even do this. But remember this the EPA and the Fed Govt/State Govts are slowly trying to take our freedoms to do those things with noise standards, black box stuff, vehicle height restrictions etc... Thanks to SEMA we are fighting back. I believe it is all about individual taste, perception and availble funds. I think they all look good in there own way. But this is always a good friendly argument.
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RE: Does this Disturb anyone else?? - 1/6/2008 7:55:21 AM
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Agreed Gunny. I love to look at this type of stuff and glad they are doing it, just not something I would ever do. Sort of like going to the car show, you see all kinds of interesting things you enjoy but would never spend your money on.
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RE: Does this Disturb anyone else?? - 1/6/2008 9:23:29 AM
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ronb
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if you wheel a hummer with a lift that high you will roll sooner than later -- if your broken halfshafts don't stop you first.
Sure will make it more likely to roll over but still be more stable than a Jeep and almost any other modded rigs on the trail definately will be the most stable rig with 44"s under it. As for halfshafts if you are spending 10k on a lift im sure you can afford the 12,100 GVW halfshaft upgrade. No doubt a H1 is more than capable stock. but honestly the break over angle kind of sucks so there is some room for improvement. but then again to each his own.
I agree that a body and/or suspension lift is needed to help the breakover, but a 7 to 10 inch lift on tires that big is asking for trouble. I have wheeled with the pictured black J-Fab lifted truck. It seemed tippy to the rest of us in the group (there's no more suspension travel up there then there is at the stock height) and no, the halfshafts and steering were not upgraded, unless chrome counts. Most with that kind of lift don't wheel, and certainly don't go the extra mile in upgrading the important stuff. It blew a halfshaft about 100 yards into the trail. While changing it there were all sorts of other problems we found (loose balljoints, worn tie-rod ends, cracked frame) so we turned him around and we pressed on. The owner was pissed at us, but we were saving him from further carnage on the harder part of the trail (and us fixing it). Stock components (steering/driveline/balljoints etc...) just can't be expected to last when one tire weighs more than the stock tire/wheel/runflat/rock guard combo.
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RE: Does this Disturb anyone else?? - 1/6/2008 2:47:13 PM
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Injunfarian
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ORIGINAL: ronb
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ORIGINAL: Injunfarian
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ORIGINAL: ronb
if you wheel a hummer with a lift that high you will roll sooner than later -- if your broken halfshafts don't stop you first.
Sure will make it more likely to roll over but still be more stable than a Jeep and almost any other modded rigs on the trail definately will be the most stable rig with 44"s under it. As for halfshafts if you are spending 10k on a lift im sure you can afford the 12,100 GVW halfshaft upgrade. No doubt a H1 is more than capable stock. but honestly the break over angle kind of sucks so there is some room for improvement. but then again to each his own.
I agree that a body and/or suspension lift is needed to help the breakover, but a 7 to 10 inch lift on tires that big is asking for trouble. I have wheeled with the pictured black J-Fab lifted truck. It seemed tippy to the rest of us in the group (there's no more suspension travel up there then there is at the stock height) and no, the halfshafts and steering were not upgraded, unless chrome counts. Most with that kind of lift don't wheel, and certainly don't go the extra mile in upgrading the important stuff. It blew a halfshaft about 100 yards into the trail. While changing it there were all sorts of other problems we found (loose balljoints, worn tie-rod ends, cracked frame) so we turned him around and we pressed on. The owner was pissed at us, but we were saving him from further carnage on the harder part of the trail (and us fixing it). Stock components (steering/driveline/balljoints etc...) just can't be expected to last when one tire weighs more than the stock tire/wheel/runflat/rock guard combo.
Totally agree with there is a limit. In my opinion an ideal setup would be the 2" bodylift(make way for the Dmax) and possibly if someone ever fabed a 4" Suspension lift... this would be able to run 44"s but they might rub doing some serious wheeling but would make a great setup for 42"s with no rubbing at all which in my opinion would be a very nice size of tire that would be big but not too big. Also of course beefing up the drivetrain and steering components
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