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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 8:56:06 AM   
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There not really "Oh s___t" runs,...I have a business, and need go to Sams Club, Home Depot, etc on a regular basis.  I HAVE to have something that can haul stuff.  

With a vehicle like this (or better yet a minivan),..I can just get in and go to the store.





we can go round and round about the whole lowering thing...but that part of your quote is what I have a problem with. Your trying to turn your h3 into a mini-van.....

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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 10:32:49 AM   
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we can go round and round about the whole lowering thing...but that part of your quote is what I have a problem with. Your trying to turn your h3 into a mini-van.....


No, not trying to turn it into one,..it's just that occasionally I need some of the capabilities of a minivan.  I suppose I could own a minivan too, and a pickup truck,..but I've been on a mission to reduce my car inventory to just 2.

Remember that funny Miller Lite commercial where the guy is watering his lawn and looking over to the neighbors driveway where a midsize SUV is parked?  The anounce says "A real man knows a station-wagon when he sees one".

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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 10:38:15 AM   
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In either lowering your H3 or lifting it. It seems there is always someone on this board that going to trash talk it. When it comes down to it the H3 is not even that great of an offroad vehicle. For the desert I would use a I-beam Ford. For the rocks I would us a Wrangler. My H3 is lifted but I don't see anything wrong with someone lowering it either. It's all about what fits your needs.

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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 11:36:03 AM   
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ummm...not trash talking here....and duck knows that. Disagreeing and discussing it and trash taking are two completely different things

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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 11:41:58 AM   
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ummm...not trash talking here....and duck knows that. Disagreeing and discussing it and trash taking are two completely different things


trash taking?  where you taking it?

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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 11:57:37 AM   
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In either lowering your H3 or lifting it. It seems there is always someone on this board that going to trash talk it. When it comes down to it the H3 is not even that great of an offroad vehicle. For the desert I would use a I-beam Ford. For the rocks I would us a Wrangler. My H3 is lifted but I don't see anything wrong with someone lowering it either. It's all about what fits your needs.


Thank You Wayne.

When I think of a Hummer,..I picture the H1, which is wide and low (so that it's stable).  H1's don't have huge wheel well gaps.  The other Hummers just don't seem right (to me) jacked way up in the air the way that short wheel base off-road pickup or a Jeep CJ's do.

For offroading,..the key would seem to be to get the axles out of the mud.  Jacking the body up doesn't help that much.  It will help in preventing high-centering on logs of whatever,..but the biggest issue is the axles (only on rear axle of the H3).

Bigger tires are all that helps that.  I picture the ideal H3 as being lowered 1.5" in the rear and with 35" tires, ones like those Toyos with the tread that wraps around the sidewall.  Then possibly paint the bottom edge of the rockers and doors flat black (maybe the bottom 6"_,...so as to make the vehicle look shorter in hieght and longer.

Like this amature MS Paint / Photoshop attempt.


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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 12:04:37 PM   
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well....your call on lowering but for off roading your WAYYYY off...lowering it will KILL your departure and approach angles.

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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 12:31:11 PM   
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i think we all need to step back.....drink a beer......look at some boobs....and rethink the situation.hahaha........im gonna do it dang it


I've been dringing beer and walking backwards for hours  ...where are the boobs?    

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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 1:01:34 PM   
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When it comes down to it the H3 is not even that great of an offroad vehicle.


Out of the box I think the H3 is one of the better offroad vehicles out there. Many vehicles can be modified to be good or great, but few have the Hummer capabilities from showroom to trail. You may disagree, just my opinion.

So, uh, Rod Hall winning the Baja 1000 in a mostly (running gear wise) stock H3 isn't that great? http://reviews.carreview.com/blog/hummer-h3-alpha-and-h3-first-stock-class-vehicles-to-finish-baja/

DETROIT – Team HUMMER once again demonstrated the inherent off-road capability of the HUMMER H3 as Rod, Josh and Chad Hall piloted their stock class H3 Alpha and H3 nearly 1,300 miles to become the first stock class vehicles to finish the 2007 SCORE International Baja 1000.
The 2007 Baja 1000 marked the 40th anniversary of the grueling off-road race and covered 1,296.39 miles from Ensenada in Baja California to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, Baja California Sur. It ran from November 13-15, 2007.
Team HUMMER races in the SCORE International full and mini stock classes which feature production-based vehicles with stock frames, stock suspension designs and production-based engines. With 18 entries, the 2007 race boasted the most stock class vehicles in the history of the 1000 and included models from seven different automakers.





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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 1:13:41 PM   
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When it comes down to it the H3 is not even that great of an offroad vehicle.


Out of the box I think the H3 is one of the better offroad vehicles out there. Many vehicles can be modified to be good or great, but few have the Hummer capabilities from showroom to trail. You may disagree, just my opinion.

So, uh, Rod Hall winning the Baja 1000 in a mostly (running gear wise) stock H3 isn't that great? http://reviews.carreview.com/blog/hummer-h3-alpha-and-h3-first-stock-class-vehicles-to-finish-baja/



DETROIT – Team HUMMER once again demonstrated the inherent off-road capability of the HUMMER H3 as Rod, Josh and Chad Hall piloted their stock class H3 Alpha and H3 nearly 1,300 miles to become the first stock class vehicles to finish the 2007 SCORE International Baja 1000.
The 2007 Baja 1000 marked the 40th anniversary of the grueling off-road race and covered 1,296.39 miles from Ensenada in Baja California to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, Baja California Sur. It ran from November 13-15, 2007.
Team HUMMER races in the SCORE International full and mini stock classes which feature production-based vehicles with stock frames, stock suspension designs and production-based engines. With 18 entries, the 2007 race boasted the most stock class vehicles in the history of the 1000 and included models from seven different automakers.






Come on! Thats all about the driver. The Hall family been racing for years and they use to drive Dodges. Those guys would win in Yugo!

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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 1:17:45 PM   
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well....your call on lowering but for off roading your WAYYYY off...lowering it will KILL your departure and approach angles.

True, in some way. It would depend on what type of offroading you did. Desert trucks are set up to be low but with long travel. A lot of them run at 60-70 % sag in there travel.

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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 2:25:12 PM   
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Wayne, I'm curious, what would you consider to be superior the the H3 off of the showroom floor for desert or trail rides, not rock crawling? (You already said the Wrangler for rocks and I wouldn't argue that.) I agree you could lift and mod a ford and make it great, but what about a stock vehicle?

And since tone can't come across in an email, I'm just asking, not accusing or calling BS. All friendly like, ya know?


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RE: Handling mods - 1/11/2008 3:43:33 PM   
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Wayne, I'm curious, what would you consider to be superior the the H3 off of the showroom floor for desert or trail rides, not rock crawling? (You already said the Wrangler for rocks and I wouldn't argue that.) I agree you could lift and mod a ford and make it great, but what about a stock vehicle?

And since tone can't come across in an email, I'm just asking, not accusing or calling BS. All friendly like, ya know?


If I had to have one vehicle to do both I would go for a wrangler unlimited. A short wheel base wrangler would buck to much it the desert. Below is peek at my desert truck.


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RE: Handling mods - 5/21/2008 8:59:04 AM   
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I know this is a really old post duckstu, but that Impala SS you humiliated on the on ramp. I have to know what year it was.

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RE: Handling mods - 5/21/2008 10:00:33 AM   
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After reading this thread I can only think that a Trailblazer SS would have been a much better vehicle choice.

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